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Whoa. That's bullish. I love Berrios and have since I started reading about his work ethic after the draft but I don't know if I could put him in top 30-40 status.

 

I didn't read that he thought he was that YET....but maybe we just read it differently.

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I didn't read that he thought he was that YET....but maybe we just read it differently.

 

 

Yeah, whether he thinks Berrios is a top 30+ guy now or later, that's pretty good, considering he was one of 27 pitchers selected in the first round/supplementals in 2012.

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I didn't read that he thought he was that YET....but maybe we just read it differently.

No, I read it that way as well. I struggle to believe Berrios will be a top 30/40 guy at any point.

 

Top 50-60? Yeah, maybe. Something in the mold of a Matt Garza, if not a little better and possibly without the injury difficulties at a relatively young age. Berrios has been a model of health since he was drafted.

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wut?

 

Luzinski'sSweatyGooch
12:31 With the  Yankees baby bombers and Rays offensive resurgence, is there something going on with their hitting philosophies? From the naked eye it appears that their hitters are dropping hands early to get on plane with low pitches and launching them

 

Eno Sarris
12:31 It's the Twins that lead the league in launch angle, surprisingly.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/eno-sarris-baseball-chat-62917/

 

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John
3:11 So Buxton is getting rid of the leg kick again? Will they ever just stick to one swing plan?

 

Dan Szymborski
3:11 They've been tinkering with him a lot.  Which I gues sisn't surprising considering how all over the map his offense has been.

 

 

this was unsatisfying...

 

mike sixel
3:20 The Twins are, I believe, still projected to be the 2nd worst AL team RoS......what would make that change*, if anything? *realistically

 

Dan Szymborski
3:20 Not having a 34-42 pythag would help.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dan-szymborski-fangraphs-chat-62917/

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John

3:11 So Buxton is getting rid of the leg kick again? Will they ever just stick to one swing plan?

 

Dan Szymborski

3:11 They've been tinkering with him a lot. Which I gues sisn't surprising considering how all over the map his offense has been.

 

 

this was unsatisfying...

 

mike sixel

3:20 The Twins are, I believe, still projected to be the 2nd worst AL team RoS......what would make that change*, if anything? *realistically

 

Dan Szymborski

3:20 Not having a 34-42 pythag would help.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dan-szymborski-fangraphs-chat-62917/

And the Lazy Answer Champion Award goes to...
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Agreed, that's a very bullish view. Very. For any pitcher.

That curve ball defies physics and the four seamer is devastating when he controls it. He absolutely has top 30 potential and he's easily top 50 now. You've all gotten too used to sad twins pitching. This is the best looking thing since 2006 Liriano here. Far better stuff than Garza ever showed.

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That curve ball defies physics and the four seamer is devastating when he controls it. He absolutely has top 30 potential and he's easily top 50 now. You've all gotten too used to sad twins pitching. This is the best looking thing since 2006 Liriano here. Far better stuff than Garza ever showed.

 

Arguing any pitcher that isn't already one of the 10 best, will now be one of the 20 best, is bullish kind of by definition.....in no way does that disparage Berrios, or mean that we all are not observant of his abilities. 

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And the Lazy Answer Champion Award goes to...

yeah, during his hour long Q&A chat where he is trying answer a ton of questions quickly from fans of 30 teams,he should make sure to elaborate extensively any time he says something negative about the Twins lest his comment be discarded as lazy.

 

What if he had said a team with the 2nd worst pitching staff in the AL is likely to have its luck run out over the course of a long season?

 

He should have used Base Runs anyway, though in the Twins case, they are currently the same ;-)

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yeah, during his hour long Q&A chat where he is trying answer a ton of questions quickly from fans of 30 teams,he should make sure to elaborate extensively any time he says something negative about the Twins lest his comment be discarded as lazy.

What if he had said a team with the 2nd worst pitching staff in the AL is likely to have its luck run out over the course of a long season?

He should have used Base Runs anyway, though in the Twins case, they are currently the same ;-)

It's a circular statement, that's why it's lazy.

 

Q: "The Twins are predicted to have a terrible RoS, which is based on runs scored/allowed and sequencing. What would make that change going forward?"

 

A: "Their current runs scored/allowed and sequencing has been terrible."

 

It's not even a ****ing answer.

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I really wanted to ask something like this:

 

With the emergence of Berrios, year long success of ESan, the better defense out of Sano and Polanco than we thought before the year started, when/how will projection systems acknowledge the Twins probably aren't the 2nd worst team Ros? Or, do we really think they are the 2nd worst team the RoS in the AL? What would need to change in the underlying numbers to make the projections and belief they aren't the 2nd worst team match (if that is our belief)?

 

 

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today's fringe five installment:

 

 

Zack Granite, OF, Minnesota (Profile)
This represents Granite’s third consecutive appearance among the Five, and his inclusion here is the source of some anxiety for the author. For one, Granite struck out in a quarter of his plate appearances since last Friday. For a player with his skill set, elite contact rates are almost a necessity. And for two, the possibility has recently occurred to me that Granite will follow, more or less, Billy Burns‘ career path. Which, Burns certainly has his virtues — and actually parlayed his talents into a slightly above-average 2015 campaign (555 PA, 2.4 WAR) with Oakland — but the lack of power has placed considerable pressure on his other skills. Granite will need to sustain an isolated-power figure north of .100 in order to remain relevant in the majors.
Here he is, fortunately, recording a 3.000 ISO in a single plate appearance earlier this week: (video in story)

 

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fringe-five-baseballs-most-compelling-fringe-prospects-94/

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In answer to a similar question that I wanted to ask:

 

ean
10:59 Do you believe that the projections react too slowly to changes? E.g. the Dbacks are projected for .508 RoS but all of their win orders (1st/2nd/3rd) have them as a ~.600 team to date

 

Jeff Sullivan
10:59 I've written about this before. Even well into a regular season, the projections are still better at seeing the rest of the year than the standings are
11:00 It's not that the actual performance is irrelevant, and of course there are times when the projections are too slow to react. Like, Archie Bradley is just a different player now. But mostly, the projections are better than one's intuition
I know that's not very fun. On the other hand, maybe it's incredibly fun!

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In answer to a similar question that I wanted to ask:

 

ean
10:59 Do you believe that the projections react too slowly to changes? E.g. the Dbacks are projected for .508 RoS but all of their win orders (1st/2nd/3rd) have them as a ~.600 team to date

 

Jeff Sullivan
10:59 I've written about this before. Even well into a regular season, the projections are still better at seeing the rest of the year than the standings are
11:00 It's not that the actual performance is irrelevant, and of course there are times when the projections are too slow to react. Like, Archie Bradley is just a different player now. But mostly, the projections are better than one's intuition
I know that's not very fun. On the other hand, maybe it's incredibly fun!

 

MUCH better answer.

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I saw a blurb on Yahoo sports about Berrios. I think it was more fantasy value oriented. Anyway, the bit I saw mentioned a concern about an IP cap for Berrios as an impact of his value. Between AAA and MLB, Berrios threw 170 IP last year and close to that between AAA and AA the year before. Of course, because many of his MLB IP were long last year it probably worked out to 180 or more "normal" innings.

 

Point being, maybe he has a cap, but I doubt it is lower than 190. He's right about at 100 now. Figure 18 remaining starts (give or take). That is only 5 per start. Problem if the Twins stay in contention all year?

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Because he's young, I suppose.

Is that often- by itself ( not in combination with injury or previous season innings), a reason to limit a pitchers innings? I'm not sure I've seen it before.

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Agreed with Eric. The Granite hype train is unusually strong this season. 

 

12:35
Forrest: How long are the Twins going to ride the proven disaster that is Byron Buxton when Zack Granite has a .363/.415/.500 slash line (with 15 SBs in 20 ATT and only 25Ks in 244 PAs)?

 

12:37
Eric A Longenhagen: I’m not sure how you just give up on a player with Buxton’s physical gifts so early.

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Great stuff. Thanks for sharing that. While I appreciate stats and whatnot, I think I can relate to Rogers' visualization technique a lot more than things like spin rate.

 

Interesting stuff.

 

Makes me wonder what Belisle is thinking of when the phone rings. Post-game spread perhaps?

 

 

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