Spring Velocity Readings Update page

[ShouldaCouldaWoulda]

Don't need this to be a who cares about it or why we should...that information is out there. Guys can often lose and sometimes gain velocity from season to season, and within the season.

 

Velocity updates I've heard or read so far...not sure if this is up or down form last year:

 

Berrios 94?

Burdi 99?

[Vanimal46]

I'd like to know where some of the veterans are at on the velocity scale. 

Hughes has been shutting teams down the first 2 starts, but for those that have seen him so far, is he sitting in the 88-91 range? Or is he back up to the 92+ range?

Ervin Santana's another one that I have not seen yet. Hopefully he's still got some heat left. 

[shs_59]

Nolasco has hit 93 MPH  , in past seasons we've seen him 89-91/ 92, especially this time of year...

 

I don't want Nolasco to go 120% right now though i wish he was more 85% right now.

 

 

my rotation as of today:  Santana, Gibson, Hughes, Milone, Nolasco

 

Duffey #3 starter in AAA, behind Berrios and Dean.

 

I too am wondering about Hughes, Its only been two appearances and shouldn't be read into too much but, his cutter will obv. be 86-89 MPH  but he goes from that to the straight 4-seamer so i'm curious if he's 89-91 with it right now or 92-94 like in 2014.

[ShouldaCouldaWoulda]

A guy named named Jeff Zimmerman does updates everyday in season of every pitchers velocity and compares it to the previous season, with a difference column. Kind of nice to follow during the season. He has only done one spring training one so far and no Twins were on it though.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jg67sqoaBgi8mWOfnUmBDr7dPtVxzwu_zijxA3DyxsI/edit#gid=0 

[diehardtwinsfan]

I'd note that pitchers usually pick up a tick or two over the course of the season, so if Hughes is sitting in the 89-91 range right now, he's probably fine.

[HitInAPinch]

Spring training has barely started.  I have zero concern over velocity at this point.  Give is a couple more weeks.

[Pardon My Dinger]

 

Berrios 94?

Burdi 99?

Burd up!

[Mike Sixel]

 

Spring training has barely started.  I have zero concern over velocity at this point.  Give is a couple more weeks.

 

huh, it's almost like, I don't know.....the OP said he didn't care about if it was worth looking at or not, he just wanted readings........or maybe I imagined he said that?

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

I'm also interested in the velocity of the pitches Park is hitting over the fence. Any of them 93-95 or higher?

 

If so, I will wager he's good to go!

[Thrylos]

As far as velocity goes, the first couple of weeks do not really matter (it is building up time) esp. for starters.  Wait for the starters to pitch a good 5-6 and then look at it (and it cuts both ways.  e.g if Hughes pitched 20 in 3 innings and had to go and work in the pen to get his work in,  a 93 could be lower if he had to hold to pitch a complete game.)

 

The ones I really would pay attention to (and I will be able to let people know the next 2 weeks from the Fort) are the ones everyone is hush hush about:  Perkins and Jepsen.  And they got to be good, because the slew of lefties that Ryan has brought to compete for a job are mostly failing, and some of them miserably so far.

[Seth Stohs]

 

I'm also interested in the velocity of the pitches Park is hitting over the fence. Any of them 93-95 or higher?

 

If so, I will wager he's good to go!

 

I've only listened to them, but I want to say that today Floyd was hitting 94 with his fastball. The other was off of Odorizzi, and he is known to hit 94 at times too. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

I heard Nolasco was throwing 99mph and killed a Cardinal batter with the power of his mind. Can anyone confirm?

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

LENIII on the radio said that Park's three homers have been come against 91, 92, and 94 mph heaters. 

[Blake]

Great. If Park keeps it up, he won't see a fastball at all during the regular season.

[Bob Sacamento]

 

I'd note that pitchers usually pick up a tick or two over the course of the season, so if Hughes is sitting in the 89-91 range right now, he's probably fine.

Today in his simulated game/live batting practice, the scout in attendance, former MLBer Mike Venafro had a gun on Hughes putting his FB 86-89 mph during the session.  I made the mistake of reporting this and Mr. Hughes was not happy stating, "he might've gotten a better reading from Naples. Based on swings/feedback and actual readings from last start...".  

 

Always a caveat with Twitter, only so many characters, but despite what the gun did say, Hughes illicited weak contact from the group and his fastball had good movement.

 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

I'm willing to buy the old baseball wisdom that most veteran pitchers don't get it ramped up until some way through spring training or the season starts. 

 

The exception being young college kids like Burdi already throwing upper 90s.

[ShouldaCouldaWoulda]

 

I'm willing to buy the old baseball wisdom that most veteran pitchers don't get it ramped up until some way through spring training or the season starts. 

 

The exception being young college kids like Burdi already throwing upper 90s.

I would not count on him gaining velocity from last year. He might....but, he's probably just as likely, if not more likely, to lose more velocity from last year. I am pretty skeptical on him returning to '14 form, but doubt he will be as bad as he was last year.

[jsteve96]

 

Nolasco has hit 93 MPH  , in past seasons we've seen him 89-91/ 92, especially this time of year...

 

I don't want Nolasco to go 120% right now though i wish he was more 85% right now.

 

 

my rotation as of today:  Santana, Gibson, Hughes, Milone, Nolasco

 

Duffey #3 starter in AAA, behind Berrios and Dean.

 

I too am wondering about Hughes, Its only been two appearances and shouldn't be read into too much but, his cutter will obv. be 86-89 MPH  but he goes from that to the straight 4-seamer so i'm curious if he's 89-91 with it right now or 92-94 like in 2014.

I was slightly shaking my head when you said Nolasco was in rotation over duffey, then I almost lost my mind when you said he'd be the 3 starter behind DEAN. Dean barely could pitch in AA 2 years ago and you're putting him ahead of a guy that had a 3.20 ERA with 8.5K/9 in the MAJORS LAST YEAR. 60 innings of great baseball.... Ricky Nolasco is a bust...

[diehardtwinsfan]

Ricky hit 94 on his first K yesterday.  His first inning he was generally under 90. His second and third innings he sat in the 91/92 range a bit more consistently.

 

Melotakis was sitting around 92.

 

Chargois was sitting around 95.

 

Burdi was hitting 98 on Friday.

 

Pressly was sitting around 95.

[ShouldaCouldaWoulda]

 

Ricky hit 94 on his first K yesterday.  His first inning he was generally under 90. His second and third innings he sat in the 91/92 range a bit more consistently.

 

Melotakis was sitting around 92.

 

Chargois was sitting around 95.

 

Burdi was hitting 98 on Friday.

 

Pressly was sitting around 95.

Thank you for the info. 

[Thrylos]

 

a guy that had a 3.20 ERA with 8.5K/9 in the MAJORS LAST YEAR. 60 innings of great baseball.... Ricky Nolasco is a bust...

 

a. Small Sample Size

b. His better games were after the rosters expanded in September, thus not exactly totally MLB competition

c. Opponents OPS: Innings  1-3: .446, 4-6 .810, 7-9: 1.320

 

Not all of us are convinced that Duffey is a MLB starter...

[Vanimal46]

 

Ricky hit 94 on his first K yesterday.  His first inning he was generally under 90. His second and third innings he sat in the 91/92 range a bit more consistently.

 

Melotakis was sitting around 92.

 

Chargois was sitting around 95.

 

Burdi was hitting 98 on Friday.

 

Pressly was sitting around 95.

The most surprising one I'm seeing is Melotakis. Wasn't he also a flame thrower who sits around 95-97? Is he just taking things slow as he returns from Tommy John? 

[Oxtung]

 

a. Small Sample Size

b. His better games were after the rosters expanded in September, thus not exactly totally MLB competition

c. Opponents OPS: Innings  1-3: .446, 4-6 .810, 7-9: 1.320

 

Not all of us are convinced that Duffey is a MLB starter...

 

Duffey pitched 25 innings in the 4-6 range and 4 innings in the 7-9 range.  Talk about small sample size.  In the long run you might be right but those numbers tell us nothing at this point.

[Brock Beauchamp]

a. Small Sample Size

b. His better games were after the rosters expanded in September, thus not exactly totally MLB competition

c. Opponents OPS: Innings  1-3: .446, 4-6 .810, 7-9: 1.320

 

Not all of us are convinced that Duffey is a MLB starter...

Duffey is still a question mark but his September starts shouldn't be held against him. Two of his best starts came against the Angels and Astros, who were playing to win in September.

 

Too few starts to draw a meaningful conclusion. It should be expected that he improved in September, as he was adjusting to playing in MLB. He had all of four non-September starts last season.

[Thrylos]

 

 He had all of four non-September starts last season.

 

That's my point.   And he was awful against Toronto.

[Brock Beauchamp]

That's my point. And he was awful against Toronto.

Sure but that's one start. And lots of pitchers were awful against Toronto in the second half of last season.

 

He was also pretty good against other competitive teams. There isn't enough data to draw any kind of objective conclusion.

[Thrylos]

 

Sure but that's one start. And lots of pitchers were awful against Toronto in the second half of last season.

He was also pretty good against other competitive teams. There isn't enough data to draw any kind of objective conclusion.

 

Nah. He faced one other competitive team. Houston  He was not "pretty good". Really

[Oxtung]

 

Nah. He faced one other competitive team. Houston  He was not "pretty good". Really

You can't make the argument that his 10 starts are small sample size,then break those starts down further and claim he wasn't good in his 4 starts before Sept callups.

 

If 10 is too small to judge him on then 4 surely is.

[jsteve96]

 

a. Small Sample Size

b. His better games were after the rosters expanded in September, thus not exactly totally MLB competition

c. Opponents OPS: Innings  1-3: .446, 4-6 .810, 7-9: 1.320

 

Not all of us are convinced that Duffey is a MLB starter...

60 innings isn't that small of a sample size... expanded rosters almost meant nothing. look who they played and what players he pitched against.... can you tell me Ricky NOlasco's Opp OPS innings?  pry is low for 7-9 since he never got there(cough,cough)

[Dozier's Glorious Hair]

 

Nah. He faced one other competitive team. Houston  He was not "pretty good". Really

 

Wow, tough crowd.