Trevor May Future Closer

[nicksaviking]

Well.....May is NOT a Price or a Sale.......with that said, i think i prefer him too as a starter , as long as we have relievers to replace him, we have an abundance of starters now, which is good. I am not against keeping May as a reliever. IMO May is a #3, if he was a #1 or #2, i would say we have to leave him at starter.

I wasn't trying to imply May was in their league. My point is simply that nearly every decent starter would make a decent reliever. It's not like the Twins found a diamond in the rough For the pen. Santana or Pelfrey would probably do well in the pen too.

[Oxtung]

Most likely scenario in 2016 is one of these four?:

 

Hughes-Gibson-Santana-Nolasco-Berrios (May, Duffey in bullpen)

 

Hughes-Gibson-Santana-May-Berrios (Duffey in bullpen)

 

Hughes-Gibson-Santana-May-Duffey (Berrios in AAA)

 

Hughes-Gibson-Santana-Duffey-Berrios (May in bullpen)

Every team needs depth at AAA and the Twins starters there next year are....highly questionable. I think it is very likely, barring injury of course that both Duffey and Berrios start the season in the minors.

[darin617]

I would rather have Trevor May back in the rotation in 2016. No disrespect to Tyler Duffy but he has only pitched a few games and I would not be so quick to anoint him as the next big thing for the rotation. We will see how he good he is after teams study him better and see if he can still be successful.

My biggest point to make is you can have a 3 headed monster like KC has right now, but you still need to a solid starter to get through the first 6 innings or more.

[Shane Wahl]

 

Every team needs depth at AAA and the Twins starters there next year are....highly questionable. I think it is very likely, barring injury of course that both Duffey and Berrios start the season in the minors.

 

Right. I can see Duffey and Rogers leading the rotation there (both might be like May 2015 and be great in the bullpen down the stretch though?). Berrios is too good. I would be disappointed if they messed around with AAA anymore.

[Blissfully Unaware]

Just not understanding why Nolasco isn't in consideration for a move to the pen, with May in the rotation.

 

So far, the Twins have gotten little return on the $20+ they've paid Nolasco. While not ideal, 100 to 140 good relief innings over the last two years of his deal would provide the Twins with some value and help relieve the log jam.

 

Hughes to the pen, too, if he is more 2015 and less 2014.

[Hrbowski]

 

Most likely scenario in 2016 is one of these four?:

 

Hughes-Gibson-Santana-Nolasco-Berrios (May, Duffey in bullpen)

 

Hughes-Gibson-Santana-May-Berrios (Duffey in bullpen)

 

Hughes-Gibson-Santana-May-Duffey (Berrios in AAA)

 

Hughes-Gibson-Santana-Duffey-Berrios (May in bullpen)

Where is Milone?

[Twinfan & Dad]

With big contracts given to struggling starters Hughes, Santana and Nolasco why would any other MLB team trade for any of them until they can show they can get back on track. With that said you have to give them the ball to increase their trade value hoping at least one of them gathers interest from somebody. Then comes Gibson who right now is still better than these 3. The 5th spot has been given to Duffy to see if he has was it takes. Milone is in the rotation now simply because of injuries and to his credit has probably earned himself a larger contract for next season thus pricing himself out of Minnesota. Then we have Berrios that I think everyone is excited to see in 2016. Where then Does this leave Trevor May? I do see both sides of the arguement. Too young to give up on as a starter especially with 3 quality pitches. But big strong closers are tough to come by also. I don't see the Twins eating the contracts of our struggling starters with big contracts until they have been given every opportunity in 2016 to increase their trade value. As for our young struggling inexperienced relievers in the minors, they just aren't ready. The numbers don't lie. Trevor May has what it takes to be a big time closer and for the time being should be given the opportunity in 2016 and see what Perkins could bring back in a trade. If the value isn't there for Perkins use him with May as a 2 headed monster for 8th and 9th inning roles. 

 

 

 

[Shane Wahl]

 

Where is Milone?

He has to be traded.

[Shaitan]

 

Fien, Duensing and Theilbar are not viable pieces for next season and O'Rourke is a depth guy not a go to late reliever.  That forces Ryan to get 1 or 2 veteran lefties plus a righty.  I would not be surprised if Cotts and/or Boyer are resigned.  Tonkin is a possibility but the Twins haven't seemed inclined to hand him a spot up to this point so what will change next spring? That goes for all the other AAA relievers they haven't called up too.

 

I expect Fien to be back, unless he's injured, but in more of a middle relief role. The Twins tend not to cut ties with formerly reliable pieces until arb years are up.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I expect Fien to be back, unless he's injured, but in more of a middle relief role. The Twins tend not to cut ties with formerly reliable pieces until arb years are up.

You are probably right, but Swarzak was cut before his 2nd Arab award last winter. Fien probably gets the Duensing treatment but his precipitous dropoff in K rate 2 years in a row has to be concerning.

[kab21]

 

He has to be traded.

I think it would be foolish to get rid of Milone with the amount of depth needed at SP nowadays.  Especially with a rotation as shaky as the Twins.

 

And no he isn't bringing back a very interesting prospect. 

[DocBauer]

No to May in the pen. Not only no but he'll no.

 

At least...not yet.

 

When he was moved to the pen...I agree it's been a short term help/fix...not only was he in the process of improving almost every time out it seemed, but he lead the Twins in just about every statistical category; XFip, YFip as well as ZFip, SO's and SO per 9, dirty looks from opposing batters, WHIP and WHIPITGOOD, and a few more.

 

Obviously I don't have the list in front me...wish I did...would love to find it again post it, or read again if someone else could find it. But the point is he was arguably the best SP in the Twins rotation when he was moved. Can he be a #1? I don't know. A true #1 SP and a top franchise QB have GOT TO BE the two most difficult things to find, much less predict, in all of sports. But you don't take big, strong, strapping young power pitchers with vast potential and improvement who look like they could very easily be a top #3 SP if not better and just move them to the bullpen. The ONLY reason you would do that is because you have at least three more just like him or better. And we aren't at that point. (Few teams ever are!)

 

If he ultimately turns out to be a solid, quality #4 SP type, then yeah, move him if he can be better in the pen. (Probably yes, he could be) But not now. No way...no how...no sir.

[Twinfan & Dad]

If a 4.43 ERA as a starter is the best you can do then I must respond with no way and no how to MAY as a 1 starter. Absolute lights out in the pen with ERA sub 2.00. CLOSER of the future if not next year with a Perkins trade then 2017.

[jimmer]

I hope the Twins are smart enough to not judge SPs on a stat like ERA (especially after 16 games), but not sure they are.

[howeda7]

I think you have to ramp him up for Spring Training as a starter, but if he's not clearly better than Berrios/Duffy/Nolasco than absolutely put him back in the 8th inning role.

[laloesch]

 

I think you have to ramp him up for Spring Training as a starter, but if he's not clearly better than Berrios/Duffy/Nolasco than absolutely put him back in the 8th inning role.

 

I laughed my head off when you said Nolasco. You think that he's not clearly better than Nolasco, seriously?  Are we watching the same team and players?