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Anyone that may play SS for the Twins in the near future should be a target to trade for not trade away.

Not that I completely disagree but Garver and Rorveldt played less games then Jeffers last season

I'm not convinced Jeffers is a 1A so I'd prefer Contreras. But I think that's very unlikely. So give me someone who can catch 100 games. Gary Sanchez or Christian Vazquez would be good with me.

Keep the prosects and spend some $. Nick Martinez if he opts out. He's a starter/long reliever and he was quite a bit better then Clevinger and Manea.

Well, if you're going to dream...dream big!

What I'm curious about is...Was Scott Boras wearing a Dodgers jersey or baseball cap when he was leaking that to Heyman?

The Lance Lynn approach to pitching. I agree. Throw it till they hit it then add in your slider/curveball/change up.

It's a completely different era of baseball. BUT Joe Ryans age 26 stats are similar to Brad Radke's in a few ways. Innings are not even close but that's due to the 2 times through the order metrics. Quite a few of the others are similar. FIP, WHIP, BB/9 H/9. Maybe we're lucky enough to see another Brad Radke. Off speed pitches will likely improve over time. Berrios got shelled his rookie season. He was vastly improved over the next few seasons. Ryan has been better so far. Not every stud pitcher throws 99mph.

I don't think I would trade Polanco. If I had to trade one of the Twins 2nd basemen Arreaz would make more sense to me. He may be at his peak trade value. They both have their injury concerns. Plus I think Polanco is a far better player in the field.

If the FO doesn't sign any back of the rotation starters this offseason I for one will be happy about the pitching pipeline. It's been quite a few seasons since that wasn't a mandatory thing. Hopefully in 2-3 seasons we're talking about extending some theses players while it's still do able.

The FO has yet to sign a SP to an expected contract so unless it's a bargain or a 1 and done I don't expect them to sign any of them. Kodai Senga #4 would be my choice and has a chance to be above the Gray line.

I agree, I had to go with hoping for better health and production from the OF. I did look at trading Kepler but my lack of faith in Kirilloff, Larnach and Wallner made me hold onto him. Kepler, Gordon and Martin should be able to cover center when Buxton gets hurt.

My original list had Correa, Verlander and $198 mil payroll. Which is just as likely as $172 mil. Like I said earlier switch Bell for Arreaz and remove Vazquez for a Sandy Leon type and you hit the $150 mil target. This team was more of a if we spent in the top 10 in payroll what could I do with it.

TY sir, no Vikings game today and already sent texts to my Packer fan buddies to torment them so spending a lot of time on the Twins this afternoon. I totally agree with all of you that $115-$130 is realistic. BUT, (a wise person said ignore what they said before they say BUT) The Padres are likely spending over their actual revenue, Philiies Ditto, Astro borderline and the Yankees...somebody has to spend their way to this point. I think you see my point. The pieces are there. Just got to say I want to go deep and maybe win one. Winning a world series isn't without taking on risk.

OK so I'm smoking something hoping for $172 mil. BUT..he didn't say they wouldn't spend over their actual revenue to put a winning team in Target field. What's another 20-30 mil to a billionaire? A vacation? You like that team as much as I do..

I was looking at that earlier today (Kepler's trade value on BTV) The Rockies just never seen to follow the crowd, so I doubt they'll trade either no matter how bad the contracts are. Bryant isn't someone I considered. There's a lot to like there if he stays healthy and plays LF. BUT. Colardo is like a magic 8 ball when it comes to players and contracts..Not sure what to make of them.

I agree it's unlikely and spending well beyond the 150 mil target. I'm sure there are trades out there that can substitute some of the FA's. Switch Arreaz for Bell and Vazqueaz for a pre arbitration backup catcher and you're at $150. Also, you could replace Montero with Moron at the league minimum. $172 mil probably gets them in the top 10 in payroll. That lineup and starting pitching I think wins a lot of games on paper, at least.

The payroll tool leads me to a lot of wishful thinking. Things like the Pohlad's double down on spending and the FO signing pitchers to multi-year contracts. With that said I added a 6th year to Rodon to outbid others. Meada translates and convinces Senga he'll love Minnesota. Xander because the Pohlad's will only go so far on payroll and Vazquez because to many hitters' parks in the NL central for those catchers' numbers to translate to the AL central parks. Montero replaces Pagan for a little more $. Bell because who doesn't need a switch-hitting 1st baseman. Arraez, Polanco, Bogaerts, Bell, Buxton, Kepler, Miranda, Kirilloff/Larnach and Jeffers/Vazquez 1-9 should score a lot of runs. At the bargain price of only 172.00 million. Dave St. Peter. There'd be a lot fewer empty seats next season... Carlos Rodon 26 x 6 Koudai Senga 15 x 5 Rafeal Montero 3.5 x 3 Josh Bell 15 x 4 Xander Bogaerts 25 x 5 Christian Vazquez 7 x 2 C: Ryan Jeffers ($0.70M) 1B: Josh Bell ($15.00M) 2B: Jorge Polanco ($7.50M) 3B: Jose Miranda ($0.70M) SS: Xander Bogaerts ($25.00M) LF: Alex Kirilloff ($0.70M) CF: Byron Buxton ($15.00M) RF: Max Kepler ($8.50M) DH: Luis Arraez ($4.50M) 4th OF: Trevor Larnach ($0.70M) Utility: Nick Gordon ($0.70M) Utility: Austin Martin ($0.70M) Backup C: Christian Vazquez ($7.00M) SP1: Carlos Rodon ($26.00M) SP2: Koudai Senga ($15.00M) SP3: Sonny Gray ($12.00M) SP4: Tyler Mahle ($8.00M) SP5: Joe Ryan ($0.70M) RP: Jhoan Duran ($0.70M) RP: Jorge Lopez ($3.00M) RP: Griffin Jax ($0.70M) RP: Jorge Alcala ($1.00M) RP: Caleb Thielbar ($2.00M) RP: Rafeal Montero ($3.50M) RP: Bailey Ober/ Josh Winder ($0.70M) RP: Kenta Maeda ($3.00M) Payroll is 14.11% over budget

If payroll is $130-$150 mil and he's our starting SS opening day. Sign me up. We can win with him if we're filling out the roster with other quality free agents. If he's one of our main free agent signings and they run back the rest of this year's team minus Correa...I won't need to purchase any game tickets in 2023..

With the crutch of injuries sunk the 2022 season. My guess is they'll hold onto him till the trade deadline. But if a package that fills the shortstop, catcher position or better yet a high end starting pitcher they may move him based on greater needs elsewhere. Any one of the Yankees, Marlins and Padres look like a good fit for a trade partner.

Well if we can't beat them in the playoffs at least we won this trade. I agree with Doctor Gast: "But if we don't land Correa this off season, I'd like to get both IKF & Rortvedt back in a trade."

If they're unable to resign Correa this would make a lot of sense.

If not for the excessive amount of 2nd base prospects in the Twins system and on the big league club. I'd be really happy with his progress. Parting with Steer and Strand for Mahle makes him sand out. If the FO wanted to part ways with the three true outcome plan and go with OBP guys and actually use the running game. Wow are they sitting pretty for that. But that's expecting them to zig while everyone else continues to zags...

I saw Lewis and Kirilloff playing together in 2019. They just stood out. The hits were louder, the speed they played with and so on. So I'm going to be a bit of a homie, in spite of the injuries, and say Lewis is the guy. The interesting part to me is in a few years this could and likely is three fifths of the starting infield. Add Jeffers, Miranda, Arraez and hopefully Kirilloff. Assuming they play to their abilities that should be a pretty good team for a long stretch.

I have to admit Padres fans have to be enjoying seeing him on our roster. I'm going to go against the grain though and say we keep him. 1st off the FO doesn't spend on the bull pen. So Pagan's projected 3 mil salary for 2023 is in line with what they MAY spend on a fixer upper they'd pick up if not for him. 2nd I can't think of any trades at the moment the FO has thrown up the white flag and moved on from. And finally no one is going to part with much more then a lottery ticket or two for him. Then they sign another Joe Smith...What's that saying...Better the devil you know then the devil you don't. Another thought if not for the trade that sent Pagan and others to us we would have had Rooker on our 40 man likely all season. I can't help but think that would have affected Gordon's playing time and possibly Miranda's call up. If you think that made a difference, We won that trade just on that alone. Whether Pagan's poor performance cost us games or not those two made up for it and much more.