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    Would Tom Pohlad Really Trade Joe Ryan?

    Joe Ryan's value may never be higher, but trading the Twins' ace would come with major risks both on and off the field.

    Sam Caulder
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    Over the next two weeks, the MLB trade deadline is going to dominate the baseball world. Rumors are about to pick up; contenders will start getting aggressive; and sellers will begin weighing whether it's time to cash in on their most valuable assets. The Twins have no shortage of players who should generate interest, with most of the speculation centered around their lineup.

    But there's one pitcher whose name has been making the rounds, as well. Not just any pitcher, either: it's their top dog, Joe Ryan. Fellow Twins Daily writer Cody Christie recently wrote a piece about the four options the Twins have surrounding Ryan. They can trade him now, trade him this winter, reevaluate at next year’s deadline, or keep him until he hits free agency. I've shared my belief that trading Ryan ahead of this year's deadline is the right move. If you're going to do it, now is the time.

    Waiting until the offseason or next summer only lowers his value. Ryan is set to enter his contract year in 2027, meaning any team acquiring him before this deadline would be getting multiple postseason runs with him instead of just one. He's far more than a rental, and that extra year of team control is incredibly valuable in today's market. The earlier you move him, the more you should expect to receive in return.

    That timing also happens to coincide with Ryan playing the best baseball of his career. Despite a blowup start on Monday that pushed his ERA up by over a full run, his numbers remain very strong. Through 114 1/3 innings this season, he's posted a 3.86 ERA while striking out more than five batters for every walk he allows. His ERA+ sits at an outstanding 126, and that number was up at 151 before Monday's outing. He's under team control beyond this season, he's pitching at a very high level, and he's exactly the type of arm contending teams dream about adding at the deadline. The return would likely never be higher.

    But here's the bigger question. Even if trading Ryan now makes sense, would Tom Pohlad actually be willing to pull the trigger?

    The Pohlad family has taken their fair share of criticism over the years, and that's putting it mildly. Since taking over as the club's primary owner, though, Tom Pohlad has been vocal about wanting to do things differently. He (supposedly) understands the frustration from the fan base, and he knows they want to see ownership fully commit to building a sustainable winner. Trading away your ace probably isn't the message those fans are hoping to hear.

    Whether it's the correct baseball decision or not, perception matters. The Twins have already dealt with historically low attendance numbers at Target Field throughout the 2026 season, and while wins and losses are ultimately what matter most, running a baseball organization involves much more than simply fielding the most efficient roster possible. You also have to give people a reason to come to the stadium. Last month provided a perfect example. When Joe Ryan took the mound against Shohei Ohtani and the Dodgers, Target Field was packed. Now, obviously, those fans weren't showing up solely because Ryan was pitching; Ohtani and the Dodgers are one of the biggest attractions in professional sports. But games like that are a reminder that your roster matters. Who you put on the field absolutely influences whether fans feel excited enough to come to the ballpark, and Ryan has become one of the Twins' biggest stars. Removing him from the roster would have consequences that go well beyond the rotation.

    There's another factor working against a Ryan trade, as well. The Twins are only 12 months removed from last summer's fire sale. That deadline dramatically changed the direction of the franchise and left a pretty sour taste throughout Twins Territory. Fans watched several important players leave while the organization signaled it was taking a step backward. Another deadline selloff—especially one that includes Ryan–would almost certainly be met with similar frustration, if not more. Even if the long-term return eventually proves worthwhile, convincing fans to be patient all over again would be no easy task.

    From purely a baseball standpoint, the argument for trading Ryan is a strong one. His value may never be higher than it is today, and if the Twins don't truly believe they're positioned to make a serious run over the next two seasons, maximizing that value is a logical strategy. But baseball decisions don't happen in a vacuum. There are business considerations, fan relations, clubhouse dynamics, and real consequences that come with moving one of the faces of your franchise.

    Trading Joe Ryan wouldn't just reshape the Twins' rotation. It would send a message about where this organization believes they stand, and where they’re headed. I'm still standing firm on my belief that trading Ryan now is the right baseball move, but it also comes with an enormous amount of risk. Not just from a performance standpoint, but from an engagement and morale standpoint as well. And if Tom Pohlad truly wants to show that this era of Twins baseball will be different, shipping off Joe Ryan would certainly be a bold first step.

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    I love Joe Ryan,  however trading him now is the right move!!!! If you want sustainability this is the way you achieve it! Fans are dumb they don't understand the business side! You have to move your assets when you can otherwise you get nothing!

    "he knows they want to see ownership fully commit to building a sustainable winner."

    If Pohlad knows that, then the right thing to do for that goal is to trade Ryan before 5 PM CT on August 3, 2026.

    The Ohtani game was going to sell well whether Ryan was starting that game or not. That argument does nothing for me. I'm not going to take the time to analyze whether or not the Twins sell notably more tickets on Ryan start days, but that'd have been the data to provide in this article if you're trying to make the "he sells tickets" argument. Show us that he sells tickets. I'd bet Ryan start days don't have significantly more ticket sales than any other rotation spot. 

    The mistake the Pohlads made (and Tom has at least said the words he should about it) was cutting payroll after the playoff series win. This isn't that. The team is below .500, it's the only reason we're talking about the idea of selling pieces. You earn the fans back by building a sustainable winner. And trading Joe Ryan is the best chip they have left in that regard. He's not likely to sign an extension here before he hits free agency. So, you're losing him within the next 1.5 years. You think the PR hit is worse now when you're already not selling tickets or at the end of next season when he walks for nothing and the "cheap Pohlad" screams reach peak levels and then you didn't get anything for him anyways?

    The argument for "goes beyond the field" is still in favor of trading him now. Take the PR hit when you're already down. Don't start climbing out and then take the PR hit. There's no way their business team is making any realistic pitch that they expect to see a massive spike in attendance next year. No way should Pohlad believe that. They spent way too long believing DSP when he tried to shovel that crap. Build an actual, true, winner and the fans will start to return. If you can extend Ryan, great, do it, that'll be a huge help in the PR department. I believe there's about a 1% chance of that happening. So trade him. Now. Before the deadline. Take your mini PR hit (they don't have enough fans who care at this point for it to be a massive PR hit) now and build your way back up with the best chance possible at building something sustainable and more than "hey, we may be .500 this year, so come see us!"

    Trade Joe Ryan and Ryan Jeffers.

    If we can't extend Ryan then we almost have to trade him in the next 2 weeks.

    If its to the Dodgers, I would hope we could get 1 of Sheehan or River Ryan. They could atleast replace his innings this year and could be a good #2 or #3 by 2028 if things go right.

    I got all excited when they recently took 2 out of 3 in New York which is a rare occurrence to say the least.  But it's pretty clear that this team as currently constructed doesn't quite have the horsepower for consistent performance.  And it's all about winning to bring the fans back.  Anybody should be available for the right deal.

     

    2 minutes ago, Colbeh said:

    If we can't extend Ryan then we almost have to trade him in the next 2 weeks.

    I agree. I love Joe Ryan. The fans are going to hate the move whether you trade Ryan now or in the offseason. Unless you can extend him now you need to get the most value from him at his peak. Ideally you get a young, pre-arb, high upside arm for him that fits the 27-28 contention window. 

    I have been back and forth on trading Ryan.  I guess mainly because there was a point there where this team looked like the misfit toys might actually be something.  It just fee;ls like there isn't enough depth for this team to make it IMO.

    If they did trade Ryan they would need mainly arms back.  Not sure what systems can accommodate that.  Most I have looked at don't have much that I would be interested in.  Maybe Atlanta as they have Cameniti in the top 100 and a couple of other arms that seem interesting.

    I just think it might be hard for the Twins to trade him at the deadline since their needs are specifically arms. Maybe some three team trade could get it done?  On top of that Tom Pohlad seems pretty intent to compete sooner rather than later and might want to run it back in 2027.  

    Will just have to see how badly teams want to pony up for Ryan and see if it's enough to force the Twins hand.  It will have to be good arms in return though.

    Tom Pohlad is not the GM. A decision he might make is whether the the Twins are buyers or sellers based upon the budget made available. 

    What Zoll does with the budget is not where the Pohlad family are going to be involved. Beyond that, it would be utterly stupid if the Pohlad family did start forcing their opinions into roster construction.

    What is Zoll recommending to Tom P., that is what I am hoping is the starting conversation.  And what is his rationale for it.  If it is a solid rationale either for or against trading Ryan, Tom P. should go along with it.  Otherwise why is Zoll in the job, he is the one evaluating players along with the analytic nerds and they are supposed to be the ones with the knowledge with what makes the most sense.  I get if he is concerned with fan reaction but honestly how further down can it go.  Make the right baseball decision and work on getting fans back.

    Also, I think the Twins should keep Joe Ryan and put him in the bullpen. He'd be an elite closer and solve all of the bullpen woes on his own! Plus, it keeps him healthy and prevents him from wearing down like he does every single year in the second half! 

    We hadn't had that take of converting a successful starter into a reliever for Joe Ryan yet, just pretty much every other rotation arm so I felt that was overdue.

    You can't really discuss "trading ryan" without an idea of who you should get in return.  First, you don't trade Ryan if you have a better than average chance of contending for the playoffs this year.  The Twins 4 game losing streak would seem to put that possibility to rest.  After all, most of us believe this team has over-performed this year so a return to the expected is not surprising.  With that said, then listening to offers for Ryan should be on Zoll's play list the next 12 days.

    But a trade for prospects is not the answer.  A fair return would be at least one starter to replace Ryan(albeit not an equivalent but a #3 starter),  a near-ready major-league-ready infielder who has a better than even chance of filling the huge hole in the #3/4 spot in the lineup in the next 1-2 years, and maybe a high minor league pitching prospect who can reach the majors by 2028.  

    Is that expecting too much?  Perhaps, but this is what the FO should be striving for if Ryan is dealt.  A Jeffers trade, which is certainly more probable, should bring in a late-inning reliever and a solid pitching prospect.  Such additions, should improve our chances to be true contenders in the next 1-2 years.  Unfortunately, I, too, have great reservations on Zoll's ability to structure such transactions.

    34 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    "he knows they want to see ownership fully commit to building a sustainable winner."

    If Pohlad knows that, then the right thing to do for that goal is to trade Ryan before 5 PM CT on August 3, 2026.

    The Ohtani game was going to sell well whether Ryan was starting that game or not. That argument does nothing for me. I'm not going to take the time to analyze whether or not the Twins sell notably more tickets on Ryan start days, but that'd have been the data to provide in this article if you're trying to make the "he sells tickets" argument. Show us that he sells tickets. I'd bet Ryan start days don't have significantly more ticket sales than any other rotation spot. 

    The mistake the Pohlads made (and Tom has at least said the words he should about it) was cutting payroll after the playoff series win. This isn't that. The team is below .500, it's the only reason we're talking about the idea of selling pieces. You earn the fans back by building a sustainable winner. And trading Joe Ryan is the best chip they have left in that regard. He's not likely to sign an extension here before he hits free agency. So, you're losing him within the next 1.5 years. You think the PR hit is worse now when you're already not selling tickets or at the end of next season when he walks for nothing and the "cheap Pohlad" screams reach peak levels and then you didn't get anything for him anyways?

    The argument for "goes beyond the field" is still in favor of trading him now. Take the PR hit when you're already down. Don't start climbing out and then take the PR hit. There's no way their business team is making any realistic pitch that they expect to see a massive spike in attendance next year. No way should Pohlad believe that. They spent way too long believing DSP when he tried to shovel that crap. Build an actual, true, winner and the fans will start to return. If you can extend Ryan, great, do it, that'll be a huge help in the PR department. I believe there's about a 1% chance of that happening. So trade him. Now. Before the deadline. Take your mini PR hit (they don't have enough fans who care at this point for it to be a massive PR hit) now and build your way back up with the best chance possible at building something sustainable and more than "hey, we may be .500 this year, so come see us!"

    Trade Joe Ryan and Ryan Jeffers.

    We will still have Pablo Day to draw fans

     

     Right?

    40 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    I'm not going to take the time to analyze whether or not the Twins sell notably more tickets on Ryan start days, but that'd have been the data to provide in this article if you're trying to make the "he sells tickets" argument. Show us that he sells tickets. I'd bet Ryan start days don't have significantly more ticket sales than any other rotation spot. 

    I will... Home attendance on Joe Ryan starts:

    April 10 - 12,569
    April 17 - 31,220 - flagging this to see what giveaway was happening that day against Cincinnati 
    April 28 - 17,821
    May 3 - 20,394 - Toronto series
    May 15 - 24,309 - Milwaukee series
    May 20 - 23,522 
    June 1 - 12,525 - I was there and seat surfed no problem
    June 6 - 20,555 - I was there and seat surfed no problem
    June 12 - 23,089 
    June 24 - 39,853 - Ohtani game I was there and it was a legit sell-out
    July 11 - 21,286 

    Edit: After further review, there was not a giveaway on April 17th. So the attendance number seems very odd given that the temp that day was around 40 degrees. Was that the time when the Twins were literally giving away tickets?



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