Twins Still Viewing Themselves as Trade Deadline Buyers Despite Long Odds

[LastOnePicked]

7 hours ago, jorgenswest said:

Why not go out to Target Field and see a game?

See: "right-sizing the business." Circa the 2023 off-season.

I love TF and I love the Twins, but I'm not coming back until there's new ownership OR I see a plan firmly in place to rebuild the organization and win a WS.

[jkcarew]

They could coauthor a manual: how to accumulate and embrace mediocre (Twins) and overrated (Angels) veterans and never compete for anything meaningful.

[howeda7]

They should  extend Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez and keep Buxton. They should also trade Jeffers, Larnach, Bell and Taylor Rogers. They can compete in 2027, but should still trade the pieces that will not be here and have at least some value. 

[jorgenswest]

8 hours ago, LastOnePicked said:

See: "right-sizing the business." Circa the 2023 off-season.

I love TF and I love the Twins, but I'm not coming back until there's new ownership OR I see a plan firmly in place to rebuild the organization and win a WS.

Fair enough. I don’t think you will be back short of temporarily with a new ownership. Even the Guardians plan is to keep churning out entertaining teams good enough to compete in season but not a plan to build a World Series winning team. They never go all in and soon it will be 80 years since the last World Series winning team. Maybe the new bargaining agreement will change the outlook but right now they rarely keep players at their peek. 

[DJL44]

16 hours ago, jorgenswest said:

The Twins are second in the AL in runs scored. They have been willing to move on from old relievers and found a few younger relievers that should be there a while.  They are one of many flawed AL teams but that doesn’t stop other teams from filling the stands. It is a great venue and a great game. The Twins have played a lot of entertaining games this year. They have one of the elite talents in Buxton. Why not go out to Target Field and see a game?

I actually have tickets to see the Twins play vs Cleveland and I went to a game in April. That’s as many times as I went in the previous 4 years combined.

I agree. Nobody should let the Pohlads get in the way of enjoying a game at Target Field. 

[karcherd]

I will keep beating this drum, they need a competent front office to run the baseball operations and Zoll is not the one to do it.  Hopefully they could formulate a plan on how to become a competitive team and Tommy P. would listen. and then they could formulate a real marketing plan which has been down in the past.

The owners should be hiring people to run the organization and give a thumbs up or down to the plan.  We haven't had a competent front office since Falvey came.  This is what I am blaming the Pohlads for, especially the kids.

[Linus]

39 minutes ago, karcherd said:

I will keep beating this drum, they need a competent front office to run the baseball operations and Zoll is not the one to do it.  Hopefully they could formulate a plan on how to become a competitive team and Tommy P. would listen. and then they could formulate a real marketing plan which has been down in the past.

The owners should be hiring people to run the organization and give a thumbs up or down to the plan.  We haven't had a competent front office since Falvey came.  This is what I am blaming the Pohlads for, especially the kids.

I agree with this premise. TP should not be involved in baseball decisions in any meaningful way. As far as Zoll goes I have a hard time making a judgment. The whole regime has been so closed in terms of who did what and who had the authority to do what. In other words I think it is possible Zoll hasn’t had the authority to do anything on his own until Falvey left. If that is true then I will give him some time to prove himself. What’s not in dispute is collectively this FO / ownership group has been really dysfunctional. 

[LambchoP]

I expect we at least trade Ryan and Jeffers. I just hope that we get a solid return and the players we get are either MLB or near MLB ready. Fans don't have the patience for a long rebuild, we need to see something in the next year or two:)

[karcherd]

2 hours ago, Linus said:

I agree with this premise. TP should not be involved in baseball decisions in any meaningful way. As far as Zoll goes I have a hard time making a judgment. The whole regime has been so closed in terms of who did what and who had the authority to do what. In other words I think it is possible Zoll hasn’t had the authority to do anything on his own until Falvey left. If that is true then I will give him some time to prove himself. What’s not in dispute is collectively this FO / ownership group has been really dysfunctional. 

You may be correct about Zoll, but that is why I am advocating for an experienced baseball executive.  The Pohlad's need a proven leader.

[Twins GFP]

On 6/19/2026 at 10:04 AM, ashbury said:

You're buying in mid-June.  That's great.  Who's selling?  Especially reliable pitching, for cash?

Well, for starters, there are currently 7 teams with a winning % under .450 and at least 5 games out of the wild card. Amongst those teams are 30 RP that are making $5m or less. I would probably start there.

Complain about the horrible bullpen, then mock any discussion to improve this bullpen...

[ashbury]

32 minutes ago, Twins GFP said:

Well, for starters, there are currently 7 teams with a winning % under .450 and at least 5 games out of the wild card. Amongst those teams are 30 RP that are making $5m or less. I would probably start there.

Complain about the horrible bullpen, then mock any discussion to improve this bullpen...

Mock ownership, then if someone asks for specifics, complain that the response's tone is mocking.

So who do you have in mind?  You could probably pry 39-year old Kirby Yates from the Angels for cash considerations.  His ERA is decent but his game log suggests they use him only in blowouts if they can help it, and he gets tagged with a blown save or a loss when they have to use him meaningfully.  Is that what you had in mind when you specified "reliable"?

I don't look to the Tigers or Royals for help as divisional rivals.  I'm not confident big-market teams like the Red Sox and Mets are ready to throw in the towel at 5.5 games out.  That leaves SF and Colorado.

I'm not going to do your homework for you.  Who do you have in mind?  I'll suggest in advance that in return for cash you will get Justin Lawrence clones, Anyone markedly better will be traded to the highest bidder, not the first bidder, and not for the cash you specified.

[Twins GFP]

2 minutes ago, ashbury said:

Mock ownership, then if someone asks for specifics, complain that the response's tone is mocking.

So who do you have in mind?  You could probably pry 39-year old Kirby Yates from the Angels for cash considerations.  His ERA is decent but his game log suggests they use him only in blowouts if they can help it, and he gets tagged with a blown save or a loss when they have to use him meaningfully.  Is that what you had in mind when you specified "reliable"?

I don't look to the Tigers or Royals for help as divisional rivals.  I'm not confident big-market teams like the Red Sox and Mets are ready to throw in the towel at 5.5 games out.  That leaves SF and Colorado.

I'm not going to do your homework for you.  Who do you have in mind?  I'll suggest in advance that in return for cash you will get Justin Lawrence clones, Anyone markedly better will be sold or traded to the highest bidder, not the first bidder, and not for the cash you specified.

I am not looking to list specific players they should target, nor am I asking you to do it as well. Neither of us is in a position to do that. You are basically saying that because we are in June, moves can't be made There are cheap, reliable RP to be had regardless of your opinions.

I am not mocking ownership, I am calling them out. My starting point on this is that Pohlad is not putting his wallet where his mouth is. If he truly believes this is a competitive team, he should be doing more than scouring the daily DFA list. By not making even the smallest of moves, he is showing his true colors.

[ashbury]

18 minutes ago, Twins GFP said:

There are cheap, reliable RP to be had regardless of your opinions.