Twins Could Get Creative by Shopping 3 Former Top Prospects at the MLB Trade Deadline

[tony&rodney]

This article was meant to be written in late October/ early November of 2023. I'm afraid that is now history. Even though I wanted to sell high on Julien I thought he could improve. He didn't, I was wrong. 

I watched the Saints yesterday. Julien and Miranda are toast and Martin doesn't look too hot either. Add them to a deal if another team thinks they can squeeze an ounce out of them. I doubt Miranda and Julien  are still on a 40 person MLB roster next season.

[DJL44]

1 hour ago, miller761 said:

You have to do something with these players. The next level of prospects will be ready for AAA next year. You need to have those  spots open for those players to play.

Gonzalez and Culpepper are ready now.

[Riverbrian]

Acquiring prospects and trading prospects at the deadline. Interesting... So... trading a prospect or three from a SHRINKING 40 man roster to a team with a GROWING 40 man roster. Are the Yankees going to take Julien as a sweetener in a Castro deal, therefore adding two players to the 40 man roster causing two to be Jettisoned so they can add Castro and Julien? Maybe we can just scoop up the players the Yankees jettison if only we could get the Yankees to cooperate. Do the Phillies or Mariners see Julien as a deadline savior that they will commit a 40 man spot and give up a lottery ticket? Will a struggling team like the Rockies want to add Julien to the 40 man and give him a whirl... they might... are they going to give up a prospect for him or Miranda when the Rockies also need prospects? Or are we trying to get McMahon from the Rockies so we can trade his expiring contract to the Yankees.    

This is a November trade discussion when they pull the pile of options together and figure out who gets a 40 man spot out of the 44 they are considering.  

We don't like these guys so we should trade them because other teams love them discussions makes me scratch my head. 

 

[Fred]

4 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Just think of the return the team could have gotten had they sold them at their peaks? Had they been able to identify the underlying issues with these players early and got out from under them, they might have transformed the entire franchise.

The Twins traded CEH and Steer for Mahle while at that point Miranda was crushing it; they probably get Luis Castillo if they move Miranda instead.

This team has a problem either in identifying their players weaknesses, or coaching getting the most out of them.

Encarnacion-Strand is playing 3rd at Cincy's AAA affiliate (Coumbus?). I noticed that when he made a throwing error just as I turned on the Saints game. Steer was never going to be known for his glove, and is carrying a sub 7.0 OPS. The Twins just about broke even in that trade, and they are not taking up a 40 man spot.

[Parfigliano]

3 hours ago, NYCTK said:

It really is incredible roster construction to carry for nearly the entire season a player that the manager recognizes should never hold a bat.

Not good, but still, incredible. 

DaShawn so bad that I'm a massive fan. Each of his hapless ABs is must watch television. 

It's rubber necking a car wreck.  You just do it.

[Doctor Gast]

4 hours ago, se7799 said:

Has it occurred to you with your 20/20 hindsight vision, it’s most likely no other team was interested in Julien even when he was going good.  Just because he should have been traded Does Not mean there was a team that would have given anything for him…. They saw him for who he is.  Time to put those non helpful hindsight glasses away.  Or I guess just keep kicking that dead horse.

Where do you get that I'm going by hindsight? It's not hindsight, when the time I suggested to trade him was right after the '23 season (when he was worth something & teams were checking in on him), many thought I was crazy. You can check TD back then. If Those who are regular TD members should be able to back me up. I am saying now it's too late, so where do you get that I think someone will give anything for him?

[sweetmusicviola16]

35 minutes ago, Doctor Gast said:

Where do you get that I'm going by hindsight? It's not hindsight, when the time I suggested to trade him was right after the '23 season (when he was worth something & teams were checking in on him), many thought I was crazy. You can check TD back then. If Those who are regular TD members should be able to back me up. I am saying now it's too late, so where do you get that I think someone will give anything for him?

What doctor said about trading Julien two years ago is correct. And you were correct, should have traded Julien two years ago. It's too late now. He has no value left.

Martin I don't believe will get traded. I don't see him getting a chance with the Twins necessarily but that he will have options next season yet does give him value to the club for injury reasons. And as others have pointed out when Castro gets traded its possible Martin does get the call. He too would net little by trading him away.

[Doctor Gast]

48 minutes ago, sweetmusicviola16 said:

What doctor said about trading Julien two years ago is correct. And you were correct, should have traded Julien two years ago. It's too late now. He has no value left.

Martin I don't believe will get traded. I don't see him getting a chance with the Twins necessarily but that he will have options next season yet does give him value to the club for injury reasons. And as others have pointed out when Castro gets traded its possible Martin does get the call. He too would net little by trading him away.

Thanks Sweetmusic

[ziggy]

Miranda and Julien will be signing minor league contracts next spring with another team. They will not be on the Twins 40 man roster.

I see no reason for any team to trade for them. 

Martin has one more year with the Twins at most, unless he starts to shine. In interviews he seemed satisfied with his production at the major league level. So I'm not sure he is motivated enough to vastly improve. Even his hits sound like weak contact. He has a weak throwing arm and his routes on outfield flies remind me of Ben Revere.  Kind of zig zaggy.

I can't see why any team would trade for him right now. 

[dxpavelka]

Miranda & Julien in a heartbeat.  For a bag of baseballs if needed.  I'd hang on to Martin in case Castro moves now or in the off-season.  

[Bodie]

18 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

I doubt Martin or Miranda have any value, but Martin should be replacing Castro. He'll either build value or not ....

I think Julien has value and could be an add on to get more in a trade. 

3 guys (not prospects at all) returns you... one,, two, three bags of baseballs.

[Jacksson]

Both Julian and Miranda should be shopped for the same types of players on other teams.  Players who have: been given multiple chances to "make it", have exhausted their options, are clogging up a team's 40 man roster, are viewed as possibly just needing a change of scenery or a different coaching philosophy.  Focus on position players who could fill organizational needs = Catcher, First Base, Outfielder with good speed & Defense.