Swapping Kirilloff for Martin Magnifies Minnesota's Matchup Problems

[Linus]

11 hours ago, RpR said:

Wallner failed at Major League level starting with the Post Season, through Spring Training and into the Regular Season.

That is not a slump, that shows he may never be able get to the Major League, as most Minor League players never do.

Wallner and Julien are both better fielders than Lewis, but Lewis can hit Major League pitching very well, they cannot.

There is no universe where Ed Julien is a better fielder than Royce Lewis. 

[jorgenswest]

Just now, Riverbrian said:

I can't argue that because I think you are right... However... If the skill is stable.

Why are Julien, Kirilloff and Wallner down in the minors?. 

 

I did my ranting about short sided platoon in the winter. I hated the roster decisions.

As for the three players it is more likely that the league adjusted and they need to adjust back. Major league pitching exposed their weaknesses and now they need to overcome them. In Julien’s case I hope the demotion is a short one. 

[Major League Ready]

12 hours ago, DocBauer said:

So Wallner is a quality prospect, produces very well at the ML level...maybe more than future portence...slumps some, rebounds for a couple weeks, and then has a poor post season as a rookie, and that's a crystal ball that he would be terrible in 2024 and the rest of his career? 

By your short leash standards, every young player who struggles a bit should just be dismissed.

Better RAKE when you hit the Majors kid, because there's no going back! Is that what you propose?

I've never stated Wallner is going to be a STAR player. But he's demonstrated real ability at ALL levels. I sure wouldn't give up on a young talent who hit a bump in the road.

Yep, the Orioles should just DFA that worthless kid they brought up earlier this year.  Seriously, you know how this works.    Borrowing Mike Sixel's description .... Development is not linear.   Most of us understand that the most crucial aspect of building a contender in a market outside the top 1/3 in revenue is development.  So, go ahead and root for the thing that is absolutely essential to success and ignore those who for some reason seem to hope a prospect fails.   

[RpR]

1 hour ago, Linus said:

There is no universe where Ed Julien is a better fielder than Royce Lewis. 

Lewis was a career -  .964 at 3rd  Base and .956 at SS in the minors; Lewis is currently a .882 at 3rd base in the Majors.

[tarheeltwinsfan]

How much would Jose Abreu cost the Twins?

[USAFChief]

19 minutes ago, tarheeltwinsfan said:

How much would Jose Abreu cost the Twins?

MLB minimum.

I'd be all for signing him to a St Paul contract. Give him 100 PAs and see what happens.

He's apparently fallen off a cliff, but as recently as 2022 he was still reeling off .800-.900 OPS's like clockwork.

He wasn't good last year, but it wouldn't be unprecedented for a player of his caliber to have a great half season left in him at 37. 

What's there to lose?

[jorgenswest]

59 minutes ago, tarheeltwinsfan said:

 

Edited June 14, 2024 by jorgenswest
Edited to delete as I was off topic.

[stringer bell]

On 6/14/2024 at 12:27 PM, RpR said:

Lewis was a career -  .964 at 3rd  Base and .956 at SS in the minors; Lewis is currently a .882 at 3rd base in the Majors.

I'm not sure how good a fielder Royce Lewis is, but I'm sure that fielding percentage in 61 innings isn't an accurate measure of someone's capabilities. 

[RpR]

6 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

I'm not sure how good a fielder Royce Lewis is, but I'm sure that fielding percentage in 61 innings isn't an accurate measure of someone's capabilities. 

He was not good at Short Stop so the Twims moved him to 3rd Base because he has a good bat..

His AAA fielding number at 3rd Base, two stints, 18 games in 2023 were a combing .932.

[IndianaTwin]

9 hours ago, RpR said:

He was not good at Short Stop so the Twims moved him to 3rd Base because he has a good bat..

His AAA fielding number at 3rd Base, two stints, 18 games in 2023 were a combing .932.

The Twins moved Lewis off shortstop because they have Carlos Correa.

[RpR]

13 hours ago, IndianaTwin said:

The Twins moved Lewis off shortstop because they have Carlos Correa.

When he was with Salt River he spent most of his time at 3rd base; Twins trided his at SS again and he continued to be below average so they had no choice  if he wanted to play major league but to put him on 3rd Base.

 

He stunk at SS.

[stringer bell]

By the way, where is Alex Kirilloff? He had plenty of time to get to Louisville for the weekend. I know players are allowed some time (if they choose) before they report, but it has been like five days.