Six Twins Featured on MLBTR's Top 75 Trade Candidates

[Mike Sixel]

 

Because some of these writers don't have the time to really examine what a player has done through the season, they just scan stat lines.

 

Lynn has been better than a fifth starter since April. Much better. If you exclude the solitary disaster start he's had since the end of April, his ERA is around 3.2 in 12 starts. It looks a lot worse at a glance because he had one horrific 1.2 IP start in early July.

 

And, he makes twice as much money as some of the other choices, which, as we saw with the twins giving a way a draft pick for 7.5MM in savings, does matter.

[Mike Sixel]

Not sure which thread this goes in.....

 

https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2018/7/18/17584660/manny-machado-trade-ripple-effect-orioles-dodgers-yankees-phillies-brewers

[nicksaviking]

 

Can we staaaaahp trying to push this notion that his wife having another kid = likely retirement?  I have seen it in several threads now.  Unless Joe has come out and said anything regarding it, it's just pure speculation and just rumor spreading at this point.  If Joe has come out and addressed this and I have missed it, then disregard this.

 

I can say that having a third small child screaming and destroying the house makes it much more likely that Joe would NOT want to retire.

 

Or, um, maybe I shouldn't say that actually. I love my kids!

[killertwinfan]

 

Sometimes a Front Office must fire a manager or trade a popular player to get the team's attention and rededicate the team in a "we'll show them" sort of way.

Seems like we play our best with less expectations. I hope something positive happens. It is too long to wait for football.  

[nicksaviking]

 

I wonder why Lynn isn't higher on the list??  

 

 

 

That list was a bit misleading, it wasn't really a ranking. The authors lumped all of the Twins together because they was getting hesitant about the Twins actually selling. Familia and Britton are ranked ahead of Brad Hand. Realmuto is ranked 16th. For some reason they are conflating "Top Trade Candidates" with "Most Likely to Get Traded". The title is misleading, most people would read that head line and think it's a ranking based on talent.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Because some of these writers don't have the time to really examine what a player has done through the season, they just scan stat lines.

 

Lynn has been better than a fifth starter since April. Much better. If you exclude the solitary disaster start he's had since the end of April, his ERA is around 3.2 in 12 starts. It looks a lot worse at a glance because he had one horrific 1.2 IP start in early July.

Wow, selective endpoints AND cherrypicking, all in the same post. Well done.

 

And in the linked article, the writer cited Lynn's improved recent performance and his July 1st disaster start.

[Mr. Brooks]

Because some of these writers don't have the time to really examine what a player has done through the season, they just scan stat lines.

 

Lynn has been better than a fifth starter since April. Much better. If you exclude the solitary disaster start he's had since the end of April, his ERA is around 3.2 in 12 starts. It looks a lot worse at a glance because he had one horrific 1.2 IP start in early July.

I'd guess most starters stats look a lot better if we simply remove all of their bad starts.

[Brock Beauchamp]

I'd guess most starters stats look a lot better if we simply remove all of their bad starts.

Removing bad starts to make a guy look good is a bit different than saying “this guy has been really good for 2.5 months if you wipe out ONE awful start”.

 

Because what’s more valuable, a guy who pitches to a 4.3 ERA consistently or a guy who posts a 3.2 ERA and grenades once every dozen or so starts?

 

At this point, I think ignoring Lynn’s April is pretty easy, as we all know why it happened (and I hope it teaches future players to take a contract and not miss even one damned day of Spring Training).

[Mike Sixel]

I also think averages kind of stink for starting pitchers. 2 or 3 horrible starts make your averages look bad, even with 10 good ones.....I'd be pretty happy to get that ratio.....

[old nurse]

 

This is a weird take. The Twins aren't terrible while huge swathes of baseball are absolutely putrid this year.
 
The Twins also have a nice mix of good young players which they are obviously not going to trade.
 
You want to talk about how little they think of some teams? The Royals are the worst team in baseball and have two players on the list.
 
The Orioles are in a virtual lock with the Royals and have six players, though (obviously) of higher value than the Twins (again, because the Twins aren't trading everything on the roster while the Orioles basically need to move 25 players if possible).
 
The White Sox are the third worst team in baseball and have three players on the list.

Gibson is in the same contract status as Odorizzi and not mentioned. Likely as unobtainable as Tallion and the Mets starters but still worthwhile as a player and even mentioned as consideration. Many of the infielder/utility types ar no better than Adrianza   Ryan Pressly is as good as some of the right handed veterans mentioned.   The likelihood of any of these teams trading more than 2 players  above fire sale prices that have team control left is slim.

[old nurse]

If this is true and All Machado brings back is one preseason B/B- prospect (45 FV) one will hope the Twin's scouts are better than the online talent evaluators

[Mike Sixel]

If this is true and All Machado brings back is one preseason B/B- prospect (45 FV) one will hope the Twin's scouts are better than the online talent evaluators

Fangraphs guy says they got a starting outfielder, back end starter, a relief pitcher, and two utility players. For 2.5 months of a player. I'd take that.

[Dman]

 

Fangraphs guy says they got a starting outfielder, back end starter, a relief pitcher, and two utility players. For 2.5 months of a player. I'd take that.

 

That's like getting five extra draft picks except you know that these players have had some level of success in Pro ball.  Pretty good get for a rental.  I did think that Baltimore would have gone with just two players and get like Diaz and May their number 10 prospect.  That would have given them a potential star outfielder and a potential number 3 starter.  I guess the more lotto tickets the better as you never know who is going to turn out.  Still very good deal for a rental.

[Danchat]

 

Fangraphs guy says they got a starting outfielder, back end starter, a relief pitcher, and two utility players. For 2.5 months of a player. I'd take that.

If you could guarantee they'd all pan out, yes, that'd absolutely be worth it. Though with 5 prospects your chances of getting good player(s) is higher just because you've acquired so many.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Fangraphs guy says they got a starting outfielder, back end starter, a relief pitcher, and two utility players. For 2.5 months of a player. I'd take that.

 

I'd say all of them are pretty decent sleeper/upside type guys. Everyone has performed. Yes, only one is a highly thought of prospect at this point, but each of those guys could end up being quality major leaguers.