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Game Thread: Twins@Royals, 7/2 11:15AM (PT) 1:15PM(CT)

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That is interesting. Most teams are roughly half way through their schedules after today. 7 teams - almost HALF the league - are within 2 games of even .500. So, essentially there is a 7 team race for the second wild card spot.

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That is interesting. Most teams are roughly half way through their schedules after today. 7 teams - almost HALF the league - are within 2 games of even .500. So, essentially there is a 7 team race for the second wild card spot.

 

Yes. And compare to the NL where there is no race.

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MLB.com is saying that the Twins are signing Jelfry Marte, a Domican shortstop who is the #3 international prospect this year. I'm all for getting more talent, and many players who start out as shortstops move elsewhere, but I'm imagining a Twins' minor league team with seven shortstops, a pitcher, and a catcher!

 

http://m.twins.mlb.com/news/article/239902156/twins-agree-with-intl-prospect-jelfry-marte/?topicId=27118388

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Thank God that Matt Belisle is here to save the day.

 

Do people even realize he's given up 1 earned run in his last 10 2/3? 

 

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Do people even realize he's given up 1 earned run in his last 10 2/3?

 

My impression is Belisle has either been effective or terrible, kind of like Big Erv (except Ervin is either fantastic or terrible)
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Hildenberger is looking like he might stick. SSS, but his stuff looks good.

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Do people even realize he's given up 1 earned run in his last 10 2/3? 

Correct, but he allowed 5 runs to score while he pitched those innings. Those inherited runs don't count as earned but he should still be held somewhat responsible.

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Do people even realize he's given up 1 earned run in his last 10 2/3? 

Going into today, Belisle had inherited 17 runners and 13 scored.

 

Pressley and Rogers have been worse though(with inherited runners).

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Detroit scored six runs off Cleveland in the bottom of the 9th... but Cleveland still won 11-8

What the hell happened to their bullpen?
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Going into today, Belisle had inherited 17 runners and 13 scored.

 

Pressley and Rogers have been worse though(with inherited runners).

 

Agreed that is brutal, I just was trying to point out the Belisle angst has been a bit misplaced lately. 

jimmer Wichita Wind Surge

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when has Rogers been worse than Belisle?

with inherited runners this year, which is the stat I was talking about. 16 runners inherited, 14 scored.

jimmer Wichita Wind Surge

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What the hell happened to their bullpen?

one bad day with a huge lead. best AL bullpen ERA and FIP going into today.

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Agreed that is brutal, I just was trying to point out the Belisle angst has been a bit misplaced lately.

If he's still giving up runs, credited to him or not, that isn't exactly something that is going to suddenly think he's reliable.
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Correct, but he allowed 5 runs to score while he pitched those innings. Those inherited runs don't count as earned but he should still be held somewhat responsible.

 

Agreed, although not all inherited runs are created equal. 

 

If you come into an inning with zero outs and runners on second and third as an example, I would expect those runs to score most times as opposed to a guy coming in with two outs and a runner on first to face a same handed hitter. 

 

I guess I'm just saying it's a very vague stat and I don't have any clue to know the situations Belisle, Rogers, or anyone else has faced.  13-17 on the surface looks pretty bad I'll admit. 

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Going into today, Belisle had inherited 17 runners and 13 scored.

 

Pressley and Rogers have been worse though(with inherited runners).

 

 

Where are you getting that from??

 

According to this, Belisle has allowed 4 of 17 inherited runners to score.

 

Rogers has allowed 2 of 16 inherited runners to score.

 

Pressly has allowed 1 of 12 to score.

 

Duffey has allowed 6 of 19 inherited runners to score.

 

Breslow has allowed 5 of 18 to score.

 

 

And for reference, Andrew Miller has allowed 4 of 20 to score/

 

 

 

 

 

jimmer Wichita Wind Surge

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Where are you getting that from??

 

According to this, Belisle has allowed 4 of 17 inherited runners to score.

 

Rogers has allowed 2 of 16 inherited runners to score.

 

Pressly has allowed 1 of 12 to score.

 

Duffey has allowed 6 of 19 inherited runners to score.

 

Breslow has allowed 5 of 18 to score.

 

 

And for reference, Andrew Miller has allowed 4 of 20 to score/

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/minnesota-twins-team-stats?season=2017&category=PITCHING+RELIEF&group=1&sort=17&time=0&pos=0&qual=0&splitType=128

 

which I completely misread. apologies to all. 

 

According to this IRS is Inherited Runners Stranded, yet IRS% is Inherited runners scored %.  Thanks for the correction.

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