Trump fires Comey

[gunnarthor]

Pretty worrisome stuff. It's not too hard to see a new FBI director ending any Trump investigations. Senate and House republicans end investigations as well. Sessions' DOJ continues to roll back voter rights and won't fight against gerrymandered districts giving the GOP a longterm majority ....

[PseudoSABR]

I think it backfires.  The odds are at all time high for a special prosecution/investigation of some sort. 

[gunnarthor]

[drjim]

Lots of sternly worded responses from Republican Senators. Not expecting much action. The beat goes on.

[PseudoSABR]

Grand Jury has begun issuing subpoenas related the Russian investigation.  I imagine this fact has more to do with Comey's dismissal than Clinton's email investigation.   

[glunn]

 

I think it backfires.  The odds are at all time high for a special prosecution/investigation of some sort. 

I pray that you are correct.

[PseudoSABR]

This guy Claude Taylor might be interesting to follow on twitter, he had the GJ subpoenas story a couple weeks ago, and is now reporting that Trump and Kushner families are moving money offshore. 

 

 

He also suggests Comey will still testify, though in a closed hearing

 

[PseudoSABR]

And there's this:

 

[TheLeviathan]

Well, Claude Taylor also suggested Chaffetz was resigning three weeks ago.  So, just a caution on all this.  

 

But I do think people like James Comey are the types we need more of, not less of in government.

[DaveW]

I don't think comey was very good at his job.

But that's not why he lost his job, this is very clearly trump trying to back his way out of this Russia problem.

 

Unfortunately for Trump he is about to find out that dodging this investigation isn't as easy as stiffing a contractor.

[DaveW]

This guy Claude Taylor might be interesting to follow on twitter, he had the GJ subpoenas story a couple weeks ago, and is now reporting that Trump and Kushner families are moving money offshore.

 

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/862078062216794112

 

He also suggests Comey will still testify, though in a closed hearing

 

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/862111968144109572

Taylor has some good scoops, but he gets sidetracked too easily. His whole twitter feed over the last 24 hours is basically retweets about how CNN didn't credit him, how he knew it first etc

 

It ends up distracting quite a bit on what he is reporting and looks a little childish tbh

[D. Hocking]

Comey found out he was fired by seeing it on the news as he was out giving a talk about the FBI in Los Angeles.  Trump called him after that.  He is the epitome of class..  

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Taylor has some good scoops, but he gets sidetracked too easily. His whole twitter feed over the last 24 hours is basically retweets about how CNN didn't credit him, how he knew it first etc

It ends up distracting quite a bit on what he is reporting and looks a little childish tbh

Actually, that cuts right to the heart of journalism.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

Well, Claude Taylor also suggested Chaffetz was resigning three weeks ago.  So, just a caution on all this.  

 

But I do think people like James Comey are the types we need more of, not less of in government.

Yeah. I thought he blundered the Clinton thing 10 days before the election but I never thought he was crooked. From everything I've read about the guy, he's a principled man. That doesn't mean he's above making a mistake but I don't think he did it out of partisan malice.

[gunnarthor]

And now the Russian FM jokes about Comey's firing in the White House.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politics/trump-fires-comey-latest?lf-content=195591701:lb-post-fc42ccfc18a8dc5b7c4a811d69a522d2@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink

 

[TheLeviathan]

I thought his explanation about that blunder (Loretta Lynch's shady meeting with Bill) at least made sense.

When you manage to irritate both sides this much, it leads me to believe you are either seriously good or incompetent at your job. And I don't think Comey was incompetent.

[ashbury]

"One year of Russiagate is enough." Sound familiar?

[Mike Sixel]

and my RW friends still don't have issues with the Donald. It really is baffling to me. Seriously baffling.

 

IMO, it's simple....he's white, and he wants us to live in the 50s culture.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

and my RW friends still don't have issues with the Donald. It really is baffling to me. Seriously baffling.

Same here. The response to Trump has taken my already sour view of conservatives and moved it into dumpster fire status.

 

They're no longer conservatives. They're authoritarians. Blatant, unabashed ****ing authoritarians.

 

Though we should have seen it coming. The GOP's movement from governance to opposition party showed signs of this happening. They've moved from wanting to roll back change to refusing to budge on any issue to believing that no matter how they get there, the ends justify the means.

 

Which is basically authoritarianism. They don't care how they win, they just want to win. Voter ID, gerrymandering, and now the court fiascos have shown their true objective.

[DaveW]

 

Same here. The response to Trump has taken my already sour view of conservatives and moved it into dumpster fire status.

 

They're no longer conservatives. They're authoritarians. Blatant, unabashed ****ing authoritarians.

 

Though we should have seen it coming. The GOP's movement from governance to opposition party showed signs of this happening. They've moved from wanting to roll back change to refusing to budge on any issue to believing that no matter how they get there, the ends justify the means.

 

Which is basically authoritarianism. They don't care how they win, they just want to win. Voter ID, gerrymandering, and now the court fiascos have shown their true objective.

For the 1,000th time Brock


STOP

BEING

FRIENDS
WITH

IDIOTS

[Mike Sixel]

 

For the 1,000th time Brock


STOP

BEING

FRIENDS
WITH

IDIOTS

 

It's not that easy. 

[USMCTwin]

and my RW friends still don't have issues with the Donald. It really is baffling to me. Seriously baffling.

 

IMO, it's simple....he's white, and he wants us to live in the 50s culture.

Might I suggest better RW friends. To be fair I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary, but there are definitely segments of traditionally Republican voters that aren't happy with Trump. I don't really get the outrage over Comey being fired. He had bungled enough on both sides of the aisles that I don't think removal was out of line. I can't help but feel like some of outrage is manufactured (not saying that's what people are doing here), but I am referring to Colbert last night. Depending on whose side did what totally frames whether this is worthy or cheer/praise or booing/shame. I am just over both sides doing that. It's annoying.

 

Again I don't like Trump. The wall is stupid, the EO on religious freedoms was toothless, the budget was awful. If you want to see more conservative viewpoints that are disapproving of Trump look up Josh Jordan (political junkie), Matt Walsh (Blaze writer and Catholic blogger), and Russell Moore (President of Southern Baptist Convention). The first two can be over the top and you likely won't like many of their other opinions, but Dr. Moore is refreshing in this politically charged times.

 

I just wanted to point out not all conservatives are Trump fans the same way I hope not all liberals are fans of everything democrats do no matter the implications or reasoning. It definitely feels lonely in the minority though.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Might I suggest better RW friends. To be fair I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary, but there are definitely segments of traditionally Republican voters that aren't happy with Trump. I don't really get the outrage over Comey being fired. He had bungled enough on both sides of the aisles that I don't think removal was out of line. I can't help but feel like some of outrage is manufactured (not saying that's what people are doing here), but I am referring to Colbert last night. Depending on whose side did what totally frames whether this is worthy or cheer/praise or booing/shame. I am just over both sides doing that. It's annoying.

Again I don't like Trump. The wall is stupid, the EO on religious freedoms was toothless, the budget was awful. If you want to see more conservative viewpoints that are disapproving of Trump look up Josh Jordan (political junkie), Matt Walsh (Blaze writer and Catholic blogger), and Russell Moore (President of Southern Baptist Convention). The first two can be over the top and you likely won't like many of their other opinions, but Dr. Moore is refreshing in this politically charged times.

I just wanted to point out not all conservatives are Trump fans the same way I hope not all liberals are fans of everything democrats do no matter the implications or reasoning. It definitely feels lonely in the minority though.

 

It's not like I can go back in time and make new friends.....I can only comment on the RW people I know. And, so far, they are perfectly happy with the GOP and Trump. Seem totally unconcerned about Russia, or his businesses making money off being POTUS. It really is hard to understand any way other than, he's in the GOP, and he's not that scary Obama guy, whom they irrationally HATE.

 

I was pretty clear, I was talking about MY RW friends, not all RW.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

It's not that easy. 

Nor does it magically make those people disappear from the earth.

[gunnarthor]

I honestly can't see how anyone can be ok with this Russia thing but maybe people are just ignoring it? I think when/if Flynn starts talking, we might see some more movement against Trump but it's also worth remembering that Trump is historically unpopular with a negative -13% or so on his favorable/unfavorable ratings.  

[kydoty]

Same here. The response to Trump has taken my already sour view of conservatives and moved it into dumpster fire status.

 

They're no longer conservatives. They're authoritarians. Blatant, unabashed ****ing authoritarians.

 

Though we should have seen it coming. The GOP's movement from governance to opposition party showed signs of this happening. They've moved from wanting to roll back change to refusing to budge on any issue to believing that no matter how they get there, the ends justify the means.

 

Which is basically authoritarianism. They don't care how they win, they just want to win. Voter ID, gerrymandering, and now the court fiascos have shown their true objective.

To his supporters, he is not just their President. He is their god. And it is downright frightening to see people I have known my entire lives, people whom I viewed as principled and ethical, worship this man, a man with no principles outside of how he can enrich himself without regards to the methods. His word is now law, and if he says it's true, it must be true.

[drjim]

 

To his supporters, he is not just their President. He is their god. And it is downright frightening to see people I have known my entire lives, people whom I viewed as principled and ethical, worship this man, a man with no principles outside of how he can enrich himself without regards to the methods. His word is now law, and if he says it's true, it must be true.

 

It is amazing. This is for Donald Bleeping Trump.

 

I have some minimal sympathy for those that voted for him because they hated Hillary or thought Washington needed a shakeup or were so desperate that it was worth a shot, but that rope should have been extremely short.

 

Now our country is alienating allies, buddying up with autocratic strongmen, destroying our moral authority, making our country very unattractive for talented people around the world. And for what? No significant legislation and the Trump family lining their pockets with hundreds of millions to billions of dollars.

 

Just wait until there is an actual external crisis.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Might I suggest better RW friends. To be fair I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary, but there are definitely segments of traditionally Republican voters that aren't happy with Trump. I don't really get the outrage over Comey being fired. He had bungled enough on both sides of the aisles that I don't think removal was out of line. I can't help but feel like some of outrage is manufactured (not saying that's what people are doing here), but I am referring to Colbert last night. Depending on whose side did what totally frames whether this is worthy or cheer/praise or booing/shame. I am just over both sides doing that. It's annoying.

Again I don't like Trump. The wall is stupid, the EO on religious freedoms was toothless, the budget was awful. If you want to see more conservative viewpoints that are disapproving of Trump look up Josh Jordan (political junkie), Matt Walsh (Blaze writer and Catholic blogger), and Russell Moore (President of Southern Baptist Convention). The first two can be over the top and you likely won't like many of their other opinions, but Dr. Moore is refreshing in this politically charged times.

I just wanted to point out not all conservatives are Trump fans the same way I hope not all liberals are fans of everything democrats do no matter the implications or reasoning. It definitely feels lonely in the minority though.

 

Btw, I love that you posted this. I'm sure at times TD feels like hostile territory to conservatives. I wish we could have more constructive conversations here...

[jimmer]

Comey got fired due to a recommendation by the asst AG. He works for the guy who had to recuse himself (the AG Sessions) from the trump/russia investigation. Doubtful the asst AG did that without prompting from Sessions (who likely was prompted by Trump).

 

A bunch of subpoenas came out today for that investigation and it was revelead today that Comey had asked for quite a bit more funding for the investigation. Gee, I wonder what the real reasons are for his firing?

 

This is a coverup attempt, plain and simple. How can the AG who recused himself be allowed to even be involved suggesting the investigator of the trump/russia dealing be fired when he had to recuse himself from that investigation.

 

And people are still buying Trump.

 

Oh,and today he met with the Russian Foreign Minister.

[TheLeviathan]

 

Might I suggest better RW friends. To be fair I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary, but there are definitely segments of traditionally Republican voters that aren't happy with Trump. I don't really get the outrage over Comey being fired. He had bungled enough on both sides of the aisles that I don't think removal was out of line. I can't help but feel like some of outrage is manufactured (not saying that's what people are doing here), but I am referring to Colbert last night. Depending on whose side did what totally frames whether this is worthy or cheer/praise or booing/shame. I am just over both sides doing that. It's annoying.

Again I don't like Trump. The wall is stupid, the EO on religious freedoms was toothless, the budget was awful. If you want to see more conservative viewpoints that are disapproving of Trump look up Josh Jordan (political junkie), Matt Walsh (Blaze writer and Catholic blogger), and Russell Moore (President of Southern Baptist Convention). The first two can be over the top and you likely won't like many of their other opinions, but Dr. Moore is refreshing in this politically charged times.

I just wanted to point out not all conservatives are Trump fans the same way I hope not all liberals are fans of everything democrats do no matter the implications or reasoning. It definitely feels lonely in the minority though.

 

I wish these conservatives would be even more vocal holding other conservatives to account.  

 

I hate to throw them a compliment, but some of the alt-right idiots and Breitbart have been the few loud voices against some of what is happening.  Now, they're mad because their warped viewpoint isn't as dominant as they'd hope, but at least they're consistent.  I can deal with consistent stupidity, even respect it to a degree.

 

Bu your average social conservative, Fox News watching conservative is largely silent.  That needs to change.  This isn't the usual partisan principle abandonment, this is on another level.