Blake Swihart

[Mike Sixel]

i'm not trading for anyone over 27 at this point........I think we are seeing this team is still 2-3 years away!

 

A nice 6-8 year not a rebuild.......

[Blake]

I would be leery of any trade made by the current Twins organization. I honestly don't think they have any idea what they have and, even worse, have little idea of what they might be trading for.

 

The Front Office is floundering and with the way things are going, I just cannot see any trade going well for the Twins.

[DocBauer]

Nolasco, healthy again and having moments and games of looking like a viable MLS again, he may have trade value. Particularly to a NL team where he has spent the majority of his career. Or, put another way, healthy again and only 1 more year left on his deal, the Twins have to find a way to move him to keep Duffey and Berrios both in the rotation.

 

Plouffe has been mentioned yet again. Healthy, fieldimg, hitting as he has most of the past couple of seasons, I'm still surprised that "reportedly" he has little individual trade value. Maybe as part of a package, especially if someone has a significant injury any time soon. If the Yankees are ready to start tearing things apart, maybe there. Long shot, but maybe. Moving Plouffe and obtaining SOMETHING of value also helps set the INF with Sano at his natural and more comfortable 3B position. Which, in turn, helps, eventually, set up the OF.

 

As to the original post, a healthy Santana, back in a groove and not throwing like his last start, and with his career track history, would be the one guy that would qualify, or come closest, to being a #2 SP. But, while he is not owed a fortune by any means, 2 remaining years on his deal would scare off a lot of teams IMO.

[Taildragger8791]

I don't know why anyone thinks Nolasco has trade value. He has a $12 million salary through next year and has two career seasons with a sub-4.50 ERA (2008 and 2013). The shine from his first 4 appearances this year is already wearing off after his last 2 starts. Nobody is going to be fooled by a few weeks of performance. We're stuck with him unless the Twins want to eat his contract in a trade or dump. Considering Ryan's track record of trades the last several years, I don't think I want him doing any dealings anyways. I'd be happy if he lost or sat on his phone until he retires.

[DocBauer]

I hate to say this as I love the guy, he's done a lot for the team, is not 30 yet, and sooner or later is going to come out of his current slump, but it may be time to seriously look at moving Dozier. Today? Probably not. But maybe come June and he's hitting like he has in the past?

 

You can't have a young talent like Polanco, filled with potential, even if it is ultimately determined that he can't be an everyday SS, and just keep yo-yo-ing him in and out of lineups, up and down the Minnesota-Rochester shuttle.

 

How about Sano at 3B, Escobar at SS, Polanco at 2B, Nunez and Santana at utility, Mauer and Park sharing 1B/DH.

 

By the season's second half, the OF could include Buxton, Kepler, Arcia and Santana as a fill-in. Unfortunately, that still leaves us potentially an OF short, unless Rosario finds himself again. But still, doesn't that INF/OF situation just make a lot more sense that where we are at now?

[tobi0040]

 

I don't know why anyone thinks Nolasco has trade value.

 

Yup.  Keeps coming up.  Not sure why.

[tobi0040]

 

In the MLBTR and other articles, I don't see Swihart garnering anything close to Berrios.

If that's truly what the Bosox are thinking, they're wrong.

 

Yeah. I am leery of top rated prospects from Boston or New York.  They are often overrated to begin with. I don't see any way the Twins trade Berrios right now and this is not one we should consider.

 

If they are looking or a #2 starter and we aren't giving up Berrios, we will have to pull off another trade and acquire one first.

[tobi0040]

I have a sneaky suspicion that Gibson's value is a lot lower outside MN.  I don't think he nets Swihart.  I would do that in a second if I was us.

[Thrylos]

 

Swihart is a guy I'd like the Twins to target. C has been a black hole in the organization for way too long. If the asking price is Berrios I'd back off of it. Almost any other prospect (Jay, Gonsalves, Stewart, Gordon) I'd be open to trade. There's not a lot of hope on the FA C market coming up, so if they truly want to fix the situation, it's going to have to be through a trade. 

 

Jay and Stewart might have higher upside than Berrios.  Gonsalves is pretty close.

 

Also, unless they prove busts, I would have a hard time trading Jay or Gonsalves.  LHSP is almost as rare commodity as Catchers these days.

[Otto von Ballpark]

It has worked out equally as well for the Yankees.

Hicks did hit a game winning HR the other day. Has had some web gems too, although I don't know if they've led to any wins...

[Vanimal46]

 

Jay and Stewart might have higher upside than Berrios.  Gonsalves is pretty close.

 

Also, unless they prove busts, I would have a hard time trading Jay or Gonsalves.  LHSP is almost as rare commodity as Catchers these days.

Perhaps they will have a higher upside than Berrios. It boils down to preference, really. I saw before you wouldn't mind giving up Berrios for a C with All-Star potential. For me, I value Berrios more because he's arrived and shown he's MLB-ready. All of those other guys are still 2-3 years away with plenty of time to get hurt, or not meet expectations. That'd be my reasoning for leaning towards trading them instead of Berrios. 

[Hrbowski]

No way. You would have to give up way too much. Probably Berrios, Gibson, and Murphy is what they would ask for first.

[Mike Sixel]

 

No way. You would have to give up way too much. Probably Berrios, Gibson, and Murphy is what they would ask for first.

 

Uh, no chance they'd have to give up that much. None.

[70charger]

 

I hate to say this as I love the guy, he's done a lot for the team, is not 30 yet, and sooner or later is going to come out of his current slump, but it may be time to seriously look at moving Dozier. Today? Probably not. But maybe come June and he's hitting like he has in the past?

You can't have a young talent like Polanco, filled with potential, even if it is ultimately determined that he can't be an everyday SS, and just keep yo-yo-ing him in and out of lineups, up and down the Minnesota-Rochester shuttle.

How about Sano at 3B, Escobar at SS, Polanco at 2B, Nunez and Santana at utility, Mauer and Park sharing 1B/DH.

By the season's second half, the OF could include Buxton, Kepler, Arcia and Santana as a fill-in. Unfortunately, that still leaves us potentially an OF short, unless Rosario finds himself again. But still, doesn't that INF/OF situation just make a lot more sense that where we are at now?

 

I don't know what the logistics would be, or the theoretical trade returns, but I'm loving all of the proposals like these that are showing up recently. This is the direction the Twins need to be going.

 

They started the process last year; it's time to complete the process this year. Dozier is sort of down on my list of guys to trade, but for a good return I would. Plouffe and Nolasco ought to be traded, much more for their roster spots than for their returns. Gibson should be dangled like Dozier. If one or the other or both got something sufficient, pull the trigger. Ervin Santana may be hard to move for a good return too, but we need to get our guys into our rotation. Dangle him too, and see what happens. Continue to be unafraid of making cuts when you know that the guy is already marginal.

 

We need Sano to move back to 3B. We need Arcia to have more playing time in the outfield. We need Polanco to get a sustained opportunity. We need May, Meyer, Berrios, and Duffey to get real shots in the rotation. We need Chargois to have a clear opportunity to bump someone else out of the bullpen this summer. (We need Burdi to get healthy, but that's neither here nor there.)

 

I liked the direction they started going when they went on their spate of DFAs. But like I said elsewhere, they're on something like step 2 of 5. Yes, calling up Mastroianni wasn't exactly what we wanted, but I can't imagine anyone thinks of him as anything but a placeholder for Buxton, and clearing out the roster chaff is something needs to be happening right now.

 

If they're not finishing this process by August, I'll be very disappointed. 

[Hrbowski]

 

Uh, no chance they'd have to give up that much. None.

The Sox will likely ask for something very similar. Swihart is a young, cost controlled catcher who has tons of potential. The Red Sox are in no hurry to part with him, so they are not going to trade him this early in the season unless they are absolutely blown away by your offer.

[tobi0040]

 

The Sox will likely ask for something very similar. Swihart is a young, cost controlled catcher who has tons of potential. The Red Sox are in no hurry to part with him, so they are not going to trade him this early in the season unless they are absolutely blown away by your offer.

 

Swihart was the 17th best prospect before the 2015 season.   He has since put up a .710 OPS in 300 AB. He has also posted negative defensive value.

 

MLB.com had Berrios 16th before this season.  He has since dominated AAA in a few innings and made two MLB starts, earning his first win.  And Berrios is younger and more cost controlled.

 

So I think the Twins would not do that trade, but it would at best be a 1-1, we would not need to be throwing in other guys as well.

[DocBauer]

I don't know what the logistics would be, or the theoretical trade returns, but I'm loving all of the proposals like these that are showing up recently. This is the direction the Twins need to be going.

 

They started the process last year; it's time to complete the process this year. Dozier is sort of down on my list of guys to trade, but for a good return I would. Plouffe and Nolasco ought to be traded, much more for their roster spots than for their returns. Gibson should be dangled like Dozier. If one or the other or both got something sufficient, pull the trigger. Ervin Santana may be hard to move for a good return too, but we need to get our guys into our rotation. Dangle him too, and see what happens. Continue to be unafraid of making cuts when you know that the guy is already marginal.

 

We need Sano to move back to 3B. We need Arcia to have more playing time in the outfield. We need Polanco to get a sustained opportunity. We need May, Meyer, Berrios, and Duffey to get real shots in the rotation. We need Chargois to have a clear opportunity to bump someone else out of the bullpen this summer. (We need Burdi to get healthy, but that's neither here nor there.)

 

I liked the direction they started going when they went on their spate of DFAs. But like I said elsewhere, they're on something like step 2 of 5. Yes, calling up Mastroianni wasn't exactly what we wanted, but I can't imagine anyone thinks of him as anything but a placeholder for Buxton, and clearing out the roster chaff is something needs to be happening right now.

 

If they're not finishing this process by August, I'll be very disappointed.

 

I stuck to INF and OF in my previous post. (And they are somewhat tied together at the momemt)

 

Catcher is a mess. And I would not dare so to not go get another one if you can...reasonably. While both Turner and Garver offer some hope, the best we can hope for now is that a month of Murphy at Rochester will get him looking more like the player we hoped we were getting all along. Then, he needs to be promotec, started, and let Suzuki be the backup. (Or gone) Did I read somewhere recently that the team ERA with Murphy starting was substantially better than when Suzuki started behind the plate?

[DocBauer]

I am not willing to abandon Gibson after a poor start and injury. Considering what he's shown the past two seasons, and apparently still has upside, I'd really like to hold on to him. I think frustrations are boiling over to the point where fingers start getting pointed everywhere and anywhere.

 

The Twins needed to make room in the rotation to keep Duffey and Berrios both. Half of that mission is acco,polished now with the removal of Milone. Nolasco needs to be next. The reason is simple, contractually, he should be easier to move than either Hughes or Santana. I disagree he doesn't have value. His contract is not grossly out of line, is good for only one more year, and his overall career numbers have been solid. I could see a team, NL, with aspirations and a hole or injury needing some help that would consider him a solid pickup. Especially, as I have long maintained, the Twins were to pick up a portion of his dollars, and possibly throw in a lower level prospect.

 

I would love to see a 3rd opening eventually, trade or move to the pen, to make room for Meyer, or possibly May back to the rotation. But for now, clearing space in the rotation is a big issue.

[gil4]

 

Devil's advocate right now:  Swihart's and JR Murphy's AAA and MLB numbers are pretty darn close.  

 

On paper, I would not mind giving up Berrios for a young every day catcher with All-Star potential (because 150 games worth more than 35, and catchers are such a rare commodity)  but not sure that Swihart is that.

 

I know Murphy has looked completely lost and sending him down was the right thing to do, but I'm not ready to give up on him.

[jokin]

 

Of course!  NYY's previous trade for a MN Twin worked-out so well for them!!

 

Were the Yankees trying to acquire a starter, or a backup?

 

If at first you don't succeed...

[jokin]

 

I thought we already did that?

 

Ha, but I said a trade for one of their catching prospects, not suspects.

[jokin]

 

Supposedly they already did...

 

Again, prospect not suspect.

[ashbury]

If at First you don't succeed...

... try, try DH?

[birddog]

 

The Yankees are looking to pull the plug on Headley at 3rd base. CC Sabathia is on the DL and appears to be near the end of the road. You would think within that set of information there would be a way for the Twins to pry loose one of the Yanks top catching prospects.

 

And can we get Dellin Betances or Andrew Miller included and make it huge? Gotta believe the only way we unload Nolasco or Hughes is to a major market team like the Yankees with money.

[jokin]

 

And can we get Dellin Betances or Andrew Miller included and make it huge? Gotta believe the only way we unload Nolasco or Hughes is to a major market team like the Yankees with money.

 

Not sure if serious or not*, but trust for Ryan to successfully pull off any kind of a blockbuster deal has to be about ZERO at the present time.

 

*(Why did you mention 2 key guys under team control that the Yankees would be highly unlikely to move?)

[Kwak]

 

It has worked out equally as well for the Yankees.

My point!  "Them" being the NYY from my post.

[mudcat14]

Swihart alone will never net a legitmate #2 starter, he's far from a sure thing.  Gibson would be more than enough.  The Red Sox traded Yoenis Cespedes for Rick Porcello and he's done very well under John Farrell & Carl Willis.  I'd bet they feel they could have similar results with Kyle. 

[Guest]

Swihart? The guy batting .211 in AAA that the Red Sox want to convert to LF because he's not a good catcher? Who had a best-in-his-life .359 BABIP last year? Considering a trade of Berrios, who may be about three weeks from establishing himself as the team's best pitcher, means panic has set in.

[jorgenswest]

The Red Sox have no need to trade Swihart unless they get a significant return. He isn't out of options. They have a starting catcher coming off an injury. Why would they trade him for one of Minnesotas many back end starters?

[jokin]

 

The Red Sox have no need to trade Swihart unless they get a significant return. He isn't out of options. They have a starting catcher coming off an injury. Why would they trade him for one of Minnesotas many back end starters?

 

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