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In other words, if you do not like the way your governor is running your state, you should move to Wisconsin?

 

Nothing respectful about that :)

 

What is the lynx?

We're nice on the right side of the st croix

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I respectfully disagree with this opinion. If people dont like the manager or coaches or gm, there are other things to do. The lynx are pretty good. Maybe other people with different opinions can go watch them. I mean this with all due respect and would never want to offend anyone because i disagree with their views. Go twins and lynx.

 

Also hbo is pretty sweet.

 

How about a blog post to codify Twins Opinion Orthodoxy? Those of us who don't agree can stop posting on TD, so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities.

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I see what you did there

 

Yes, and the cross promotion possibilities are endless. Think of the bobblehead day, and combine that with dry icepack day.

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I could be the biggest homer out there, but things need to change. Right now we have Correia, Pelfrey, Florimon, Guerrier, Kubel, Burton, Fryer and Ibarra on the 40-man roster, that opens up 8 possible spots, which you can fill with Meyer, May, Pressly and Achter from Rochester and also bring up Bernier as the replacement for Escobars original utility role for sure.

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Perhaps we can learn from today's events concerning the Veteran's Health Administration. A well-respected, most honorable, and very highly praised Secretary (the "boss") was '

"relieved of command" so as not to be a distraction to fixing their problems. If change is required--it should be at the top--DSP needs to be "relieved of command". In that way a new "boss" can observe and assess performance of the entire organization and make all of the changes he deems necessary. We should not expect a "quick fix". This FO has contended that they could "make quick fixes", (and likely "on the cheap"). That policy has failed. A new direction can only be obtained by new leadership. Recycling old ideas has failed, and no one should be surprised at that outcome.

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I could be the biggest homer out there, but things need to change. Right now we have Correia, Pelfrey, Florimon, Guerrier, Kubel, Burton, Fryer and Ibarra on the 40-man roster, that opens up 8 possible spots, which you can fill with Meyer, May, Pressly and Achter from Rochester and also bring up Bernier as the replacement for Escobars original utility role for sure.

 

May and Pressly are already on the 40-man, and I'd dump Duensing before getting rid of Ibarra. Kubel, Guerrier, Burton and Fryer are definitely NOT part of the future of this team; the Yankees are looking for more pitching - maybe we could dupe them into taking Correia (and have him pitch this weekend against the Twins). Pelfrey is still injured, so we can't just dump him at this point. By the trading deadline, I'd dump a bunch of those guys.

 

PS - Even if Santana isn't as good a fielder as Florimon, he can certainly hold his own and deserves to be on the roster the rest of the year. Maybe we can convince the Yankees to take Florimon along with Correia for Granderson (yeah I know, he plays for the Mets), but maybe if we act dumb, the Yankees would think they were fleecing us, instead of vice-versa.

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May and Pressly are already on the 40-man, and I'd dump Duensing before getting rid of Ibarra. Kubel, Guerrier, Burton and Fryer are definitely NOT part of the future of this team; the Yankees are looking for more pitching - maybe we could dupe them into taking Correia (and have him pitch this weekend against the Twins)***. Pelfrey is still injured, so we can't just dump him at this point. By the trading deadline, I'd dump a bunch of those guys

 

***I vote for ScottyB to take Rob Antony's spot, Interim GM genius!:roll:

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A lot of us have been Twins fans longer than Gardenhire or Ryan have. Not that that entitles us to anything necessarily. It might mean we will continue to offer them constructive advice rather than walking away. :)

 

Yeah...."America, Love It or Leave It" never worked for me, either.

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I believe he has a roster bonus due this week. Kubel may be a good guy, but he has to hit more than he has since his early splash in April. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was dispatched on Wednesday.

 

I read that Kubel has roster incentives for 30 60 and 90 days, which puts the decision at about... today. (If the clock starts on opening day. Not sure.)

 

Kubel's bonus has already been earned and credited. Perhaps it could be considered a severance package, paid forward?

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How about a blog post to codify Twins Opinion Orthodoxy? Those of us who don't agree can stop posting on TD, so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities.

 

I'm not so certain a post that ends with "hbo is pretty sweet" was supposed to be taken that seriously...

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It was certainly taken, by more than a few of us, as an attack on how we choose to be fans. And it isn't the first time that poster has posted in a similar vein, iirc.

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Agreed on many points already made. We were lucky enough to get a little value from the veterans (Kubel, Correia, Pelfrey - although the latter two's value could be debated) but that well looks to have run dry. Time to adapt and update the roster. More time for Pinto, opportunities for Meyer, May, Darnell -etc.

 

Up until the last 7 games (2 series), the Twins have been fun to watch this year. I'd love to see the team keep that rolling by adjusting the roster as needed. (Even if the wins don't keep coming, I think many fans would enjoy watching the future pieces of the team get some real playing time).

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You know how I know you're a wee little tyke?

 

Your favorite Twin of all time isn't Puckett, Oliva, Killebrew, Hrbeck, Blyleven, Viola or Morris (or in other words your fav played in the last 15 years).

 

i agree with both you and Thrylos. Both need to happen, except Antony needs to be out on his ear too. It would be too tempting to make Antony permanent. Promote Brad Steil interim, and backfill with TK.

 

Yep, I was with Thrylos until he mentioned Antony. Andy MacPhail is available to be the interim GM while he awaits the decision on a successor to Bud Selig, McPhail is a lead candidate to replace Selig. And Jim Pohlad sits on the Commisioner Search Committee, so he's in a position in close proximity to MacPhail at the moment.

 

I think a fresh and removed point of view, but also a familiar face and experienced baseball executive would be the perfect short-term hire.

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Yep, I was with Thrylos until he mentioned Antony. Andy McPhail is available to be the interim GM while he awaits the decision on a successor to Bud Selig, McPhail is a lead candidate to replace Selig. And Jim Pohlad sits on the Commisioner Search Committee, so he's in a position in close proximity to McPhail at the moment.

 

I think a fresh and removed point of view, but also a familiar face and experienced baseball executive would be the perfect short-term hire.

 

I'd take MacPhail over Antony in a heartbeat. I guess they need an interim and then a full search. Not sure that MacPhail might be interested and if he were the Twins should offer him St Peter's position and let him run the whole thing. I don't care a bit aboutAntony other than he is available for an interim position and his name is not Ryan.

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I'd take MacPhail over Antony in a heartbeat. I guess they need an interim and then a full search. Not sure that MacPhail might be interested and if he were the Twins should offer him St Peter's position and let him run the whole thing. I don't care a bit aboutAntony other than he is available for an interim position and his name is not Ryan.

 

This makes far more sense. Change must be throughout the organization with committment to turning the Twins into a consistent winner--and not on maintaining status quo.

Posted
I'm not so certain a post that ends with "hbo is pretty sweet" was supposed to be taken that seriously...

 

 

Perhaps you didn't read the original version that this was referencing then.

Posted
If Kubel isn't sent to AAA/DFA'd/released I'm going to start listening to NPR instead of watching Twins baseball.

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There's a help line for this. Remember, you are not alone. TD is pulling for you.

 

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Posted

Good post. Some good and noteworthy suggestions. Some good follow up from the crew and some good laughs.

 

Ted Williams? Bobble head and ice pack days? Really? Priceless! Lol

 

I really love this year's team. We are not where we need to be yet. But we're watching young players, mostly, from inside the organization and recent additions really growing in front of our eyes. The team is competitive most every game, giving them a chance, and keeping us around .500 so far, with room for more. Arcia and Willingham back helps a lot. Mauer being Mauer would help a ton. SS is no longer a black hole. The rotation is taking shape. Just need one more starter. Hate to say it as I want to avoid the whole AAAA player format, but maybe Johnson in place of Correia, for now at least, until later in the year when May, Meyer, Darnell may be ready for their shot?

 

Where I'm going to continue to disagree is with some mass firing of Gardy and half of his staff. Unconvential to say the least, especially during the season, and I feel unwarranted.

(note* I am not excusing some major off season blunders made) You can call me a homer if you wish, but I honestly don't understand the vitriol towards members of our staff.

 

I don't always agree with Gardy. Never have, never will. But like Kelly, he plays his whole roster. When given decent talent, he's won, and won well and often. And his players are very loyal and enjoy playing for him. I don't feel he's suddenly just lost the ability to manage. More talent to work with this year than the last three, suddenly his team is competitive again.

 

The Twins employ a philosophy similar to the Dodgers and Orioles that proved successful for decades: run a complete system from the minors to the majors, hire good people, and promote good people from within. Yes, you need some fresh blood here and there, no question. But it's a proven formula as long as you guard against stagnation.

 

Both Ullger and Vavra have had quality success at the milb and ML level previously. They've earned praise when the Twins won, and like Gardy, are chastised over the past poor few seasons.

 

And I just don't understand all the Anderson angst. From Kelly and Such to Gardy and Anderson the Twins have enjoyed quality bullpens for most seasons over 20+ plus seasons, using talent from within and without. It's almost been a trademark of Twins teams. Ask Detroit how hard it is to build a bullpen. But this is due to what? Luck? Or the bullpen coach? Nope.

 

When the Twins have been walking to score runs this season Bruno and the lineup have been praised. The Twins, historically, have been amongst the most stingy teams in the league season after season in allowing walks to the opposition. But we can only complain about a lack of strikeouts. Who was the pitching coach for part of Radke's career, as well as CyYoung winner Santana's and young phenom Liriano's breakthrough, before injury, and a couple solid seasons before his head got turned around? Until Hughes this year, Gibson and Nolasco potentially, what SO potential pitchers has Anderson really had to work with in the rotation the past few years? And to those of us that love Deduno, who has harnessed his wild abilities to make him a quality ML SP, as long as he's healthy?

 

Perkins has been groomed in to a top closer. Burton found new life here. So has Fien. Duensing and Thielbar are becoming/have become a dual LH relief combo that most teams would kill to have. For whatever reason, Swarzak has struggled this season. But who's been the pitching coach the past few seasons when he's been almost indispensable at times?

 

We could rant at times about pitchers provided for our staff, moves made and not made. But I don't feel the blame falls on Anderson.

 

Just my opinion.

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