Future Outfield

[Richie the Rally Goat]

that's kind of my point, right? If you would be happy with the offense from Rosario and Buxton, why do you care if one is in CF and one is in LF?

 

I have come to the belief Rosario should be in CF, not 2B, in AA. Move him to AAA or LF when Buxton is ready. He isn't playing 2B for this team, and I can't think of a better LF alternative than him in the entire system right now (since I am assuming he will hit better, much better, than Hicks).

Apparently I value the 4th outfielder more than others, but maybe Rosario is that guy and not Hicks? Regardless, playing Rosario in a lot of different positions can only help with flexibility. Right now it looks like Rosario is a talented prospect without a 2b spot in the majors.

 

There's a lot more uncertainty with the outfield where he has more experience. If Rosario can be a good hitter and plus fielder, there's opportunity for him.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Love threads like this as we are rebuilding, filled with hope, and I love playing with lineups.

 

I think Plouffe might have potential as an OF for us, if not a DH and super-sub at several positions. Parma just might be figuring out and could be a starting OF, platoon partner, DH, even a LH 3 position super-sub similar to Plouffe. And I believe with all of my heart is a very good player to potential stud who will make his mark at one of the corner OF spots for two reasons. One being he's WAY too young and talented to say he's only a DH at this point. Give him a little time. The kid has already flashed a ML bat at 21 for goodness sake.

 

Hate to be the cautionary voice of reason here, but, I am going to be anyway.

 

Sano's injury stinks big time! But it is not the kind of injury, generally speaking, that should be alarming for a young position player. But it has set his development time frame back. And to expect him to be the starting 3B in May 2015 is probably unrealistic. Which keeps Plouffe there for now.

Good point, TJ might mean Sano becomes 1st base or DH. It's a topic for another thread, but this opens a whole new can of worms

[Paul Pleiss]

I don't like forcing projections on players, especially ones who have not seen time at or above AA (Sano/Buxton). Next season we see Aaron Hicks in CF with Arcia/Parm/Cola in LF/RF, take your pick. Buxton would have to make huge strides the rest of this season to be up early in 2015, and Sano still has to prove himself at AAA after losing 2014. The OF a year from now looks similiar to how it looks this year but with Arcia hopefully healthy and Hammer on someone else's DL.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Hicks is probably an average center fielder at best (winging it, no stats to back it up) but he has a nice arm, some speed, can field his position. Yet none of our other outfielders are anywhere near Hicks's ability. Yet Hicks rode pine today.

 

Future outfield… I will take a crack at tomorrow's. I would guess it will include Willingham, Hicks, Arcia (regardless of "handedness" of pitcher) but with that dirty dog Gardenhire you never know what you're going to see out there. Might cost us a ballgame but at least it will entertain and this is the entertainment biz after all

[Paul Pleiss]

but with that dirty dog Gardenhire you never know what you're going to see out there. Might cost us a ballgame but at least it will entertain and this is the entertainment biz after all

 

This wins the internet.

[jokin]

Hicks is probably an average center fielder at best (winging it, no stats to back it up) but he has a nice arm, some speed, can field his position. Yet none of our other outfielders are anywhere near Hicks's ability. Yet Hicks rode pine today.

 

Future outfield… I will take a crack at tomorrow's. I would guess it will include Willingham, Hicks, Arcia (regardless of "handedness" of pitcher) but with that dirty dog Gardenhire you never know what you're going to see out there. Might cost us a ballgame but at least it will entertain and this is athe entertainment biz after all

 

 

FWIW...in the post-game presser, Reusse pressed Gardy on the OF situation, with particular emphasis on the status of Hicks. Gardy endorsed him, much as he did Florimon in ST, with a "he's my Center Fielder....we've got him working on the things he needs to do to be successful"...we'll see if that quickly changes when Fuld stops seeing double.

 

And to add to the "Twins CF Men of Mystique and Mystery- 2014 Edition", Gardy also said that Chris Hermann was being sent down to get reps in Center Field...the press room went silent in stunnned amazement....that's right, folks, now #3 on your CF depth chart, just behind Hicks, and SS/Sorta CF Danny Santana, is now officially Chris Hermann. In looking at his vast experience at the position, I see all of 11 games there in 2010 at Ft Myers....this should work.....That's Entertainment!

[twinsnorth49]

Future outfield? Yes I hope they have one in the future

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

This wins the internet.

not my best stuff but thanks

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

FWIW...in the post-game presser, Reusse pressed Gardy on the OF situation, with particular emphasis on the status of Hicks. Gardy endorsed him, much as he did Florimon in ST, with a "he's my Center Fielder....we've got him working on the things he needs to do to be successful"...we'll see if that quickly changes when Fuld stops seeing double.

 

And to add the "Twins CF Men of Mystique and Mystery- 2014 Edition", Gardy also said that Chris Hermann was being sent down to get reps in Center Field...the press room went silent in stunnned amazement....that's right, folks, now #3 on your CF depth chart, just behind Hicks, and SS/Sorta CF Danny Santana, is now officially Chris Hermann. In looking at his vast experience at the position, I see all of 11 games there in 2010 at Ft Myers....this should work.....That's Entertainment!

 

Thanks for the info -- it's good to get these reports from the postgames, as I don't usually catch them but just a few sound bites later on. Also good to finally see guys like Reusse and Bremer starting to ask out loud what some of us have been asking for quite a while.

[DocBauer]

Just a clarication in my previous entry, something got cut out accidentally, I was referencing Arcia when I commented I felt in my heart he had borderline stud potential and it was way too early to pigeon hole him as a DH so early in his career. Sorry for the error.

[alarp33]

Just scrolling through this thread it's hilarious to me how many people have penciled Parmelee into the OF of the future. The Twins DFA'd him 2 months ago! Am I missing something? He's an awful defender, who hit for power one half of a season in AAA a couple years ago, has a .710 ops in the majors in over 600 at bats. If he is the Rf going into next season, the Twins are in more trouble than I thought

[Pius Jefferson]

Just scrolling through this thread it's hilarious to me how many people have penciled Parmelee into the OF of the future. The Twins DFA'd him 2 months ago! Am I missing something? He's an awful defender, who hit for power one half of a season in AAA a couple years ago, has a .710 ops in the majors in over 600 at bats. If he is the Rf going into next season, the Twins are in more trouble than I thought

 

I think Parmelee in the outfield to start next year would be by default and not him actually deserving the spot.

[stringer bell]

Here's my 13 position players for Memorial Day 2015: Catcher--Suzuki and Pinto Infield--Mauer, Dozier, Escobar, Sano, Nuñez Outfield--Plouffe, Buxton, Arcia, Fuld, Parmelee DH--Vargas.

[oldguy10]

^^^

Nunez, Fuld and Parmelee on the 2015 roster - let's hope not unless the organization is planning on yet another 90+ loss season.

[JustcallupSANO]

Nobody has Kepler as future OF?

2017?

Kepler-Buxton-Alex Jackson?/Arcia

or DH Arcia

[Whammy]

Here's my 13 position players for Memorial Day 2015: Catcher--Suzuki and Pinto Infield--Mauer, Dozier, Escobar, Sano, Nuñez Outfield--Plouffe, Buxton, Arcia, Fuld, Parmelee DH--Vargas.

Change Fuld and Parmelee to Hicks and Rosario and I'm on board.

[Mike Sixel]

Nobody has Kepler as future OF?

2017?

Kepler-Buxton-Alex Jackson?/Arcia

or DH Arcia

 

it would be nice, but he's in A ball, and not exactly dominating. It's hard to predict he'll be in the OF with any confidence right now.

[jokin]

it would be nice, but he's in A ball, and not exactly dominating. It's hard to predict he'll be in the OF with any confidence right now.

 

It will be interesting to see how long guys like Kepler stick around. As more of the hot and not-so-hot prospects, like Meyer, Sano, Rosario, Goodrum, Michael and Buxton are likely to inevitably claim 40-man roster spots at some point within the next calendar year, the Twins will no longer have the luxury of stashing and hoping on guys like Kepler.

[Mike Sixel]

Don't get me wrong, I like Kepler as a prospect......but not sure how anyone can be predicting he'll be a fixture in 2-3 years. Not if you believe Rosario is an OF on this team (with Buxton and Arcia). I have been predicting him as their future 1B for some time, actually. Though, all that talent has not yet translated into results, I believe he has a shot.

[jokin]

Don't get me wrong, I like Kepler as a prospect......but not sure how anyone can be predicting he'll be a fixture in 2-3 years. Not if you believe Rosario is an OF on this team (with Buxton and Arcia). I have been predicting him as their future 1B for some time, actually. Though, all that talent has not yet translated into results, I believe he has a shot.

 

I agree about his talent and a legit shot at making it, but at his current rate, and with actually producing players and prospects needing roster spots and potentially blocking him down the road, both in the OF (I am of the belief that Rosario, Plouffe and Buxton will be the OF in a couple years, with Arcia splitting some time in RF and DH) and at 1st base ( besides Mauer through at least 2018, possibly both Sano and Vargas may need that spot), he's soon in danger of becoming a talented journeyman.

[Siehbiscuit]

I have a hard time seeing Sano on the big league roster at this time next year. He will have missed a year and will likely start the year in AA again. He may need a month to get his feet wet and then a likely promotion to AAA. Plouffe is a capable placeholder and there are enough OF's for Plouffe to stay at 3B.

 

Rosario, imo, is more likely to be on the big league team (in CF) than Buxton next year. Buxton has missed essentially the same amount of time as Rosario and Rosario has already had some success at the AA level. IF Hicks gets his plug pulled, Rosario could be the starting CF in early 2015.

 

C- Pinto (starter), FA veteran (Suzuki will re-sign for more elsewhere)

1B- Mauer, Parmelee

2B- Dozier

3B- Plouffe (Sano if he DOMINATES AA)

SS- Escobar, Santana

LF- Rosario

CF- Hicks or Rosario (Buxton, maybe)

RF- Arcia

DH-Vargas or Parmalee

[DJL44]

I think Kepler should be traded before he goes bust

[Beezer07]

I have a hard time seeing Sano on the big league roster at this time next year. He will have missed a year and will likely start the year in AA again. He may need a month to get his feet wet and then a likely promotion to AAA. Plouffe is a capable placeholder and there are enough OF's for Plouffe to stay at 3B.

 

Rosario, imo, is more likely to be on the big league team (in CF) than Buxton next year. Buxton has missed essentially the same amount of time as Rosario and Rosario has already had some success at the AA level. IF Hicks gets his plug pulled, Rosario could be the starting CF in early 2015.

 

C- Pinto (starter), FA veteran (Suzuki will re-sign for more elsewhere)

1B- Mauer, Parmelee

2B- Dozier

3B- Plouffe (Sano if he DOMINATES AA)

SS- Escobar, Santana

LF- Rosario

CF- Hicks or Rosario (Buxton, maybe)

RF- Arcia

DH-Vargas or Parmalee

 

I like your lineup for the most part, especially since Escobar can get Plouffe days off at 3B, but I really hope Parmalee isn't the backup 1B/DH next year, as he can't hit in the majors. Also, is Rosario playing in the OF currently, let alone CF? I don't follow the minors as closely as some.

[jokin]

I like your lineup for the most part, especially since Escobar can get Plouffe days off at 3B, but I really hope Parmalee isn't the backup 1B/DH next year, as he can't hit in the majors. Also, is Rosario playing in the OF currently, let alone CF? I don't follow the minors as closely as some.

 

Rosario is not currently playing at any position, his suspension ends after today. He is originally an OF, so it will be interesting to see if he resumes playing at 2nd, which was where the Twins thought his bat would play better, now that Dozier has established himself at the position.

[Shane Wahl]

Travis Harrison and Max Kepler are viable trade candidates, though I am not sure what for at the moment. Both seem cornerish in the OF and 1B.

 

Buxton, Hicks, Arcia, Rosario, and either Parmelee or Ortiz (if the former can be traded) would be my vote for June 1, 2015.

[blairpaul715]

I have a hard time seeing Sano on the big league roster at this time next year. He will have missed a year and will likely start the year in AA again. He may need a month to get his feet wet and then a likely promotion to AAA. Plouffe is a capable placeholder and there are enough OF's for Plouffe to stay at 3B.

 

Rosario, imo, is more likely to be on the big league team (in CF) than Buxton next year. Buxton has missed essentially the same amount of time as Rosario and Rosario has already had some success at the AA level. IF Hicks gets his plug pulled, Rosario could be the starting CF in early 2015.

 

C- Pinto (starter), FA veteran (Suzuki will re-sign for more elsewhere)

1B- Mauer, Parmelee

2B- Dozier

3B- Plouffe (Sano if he DOMINATES AA)

SS- Escobar, Santana

LF- Rosario

CF- Hicks or Rosario (Buxton, maybe)

RF- Arcia

DH-Vargas or Parmalee

 

Funny I read this as I was filling out my projections for 2015 thru 2018(of course I only have a few names down for 2018)..........My starting lineup is for 2017, and other players I feel will be on the team......I love projections, would love to hear others for 2017

 

C Pinto(28) and Veteran FA

1st Mauer(34)

2nd Dozier(30)

3rd Sano(24)

SS Polanco(23-24)

LF Arcia(26)

CF Buxton(23)

RF Hicks(27)

DH Vargas(26-27)

SP Meyer(27)

SP Hughes(31)

SP Gibson(29)

SP May(27)

SP Stewart(22)

SP Gilmartin(27)

Closer Perkins(34)

Setup Tonkin(27)

I think the Twins will trade Nolasco if possible sometime after year 2 and try to extend Hughes by 2 yrs if Hughes keeps impressing.

[DK]

Lets looks further down the road, say 2016 or 2017. If Buxton and Arcia pan out then how about guys like: Adam Brett Walker , Daniel Ortiz or even Max Kepler. At least one of these guys should be ready. Rosario could also be in the mix.