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I went looking for the language and I don’t know if the language I found is up to date. It made me wonder about Severino. He signed in 2016 but did not play in the Braves system until 2017. I do not know if he was in a roster. It appears the Twins have 5 days after the last out. I also found this from the collective bargaining agreement signed this spring,
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Trade for a lefthanded starting pitcher? Three options
jorgenswest replied to DJL44's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Sign Ryu? 1 year at around 10 million. He returned to start 10 games after TJ. His contract would still leave plenty of space to add salary. -
I think the only one I would go big on is Yamamoto. I say that having never seen in pitch though. Maybe Gray at 3 years but the decline is coming, The fit I like best is Ryu coming back from Tommy John if they can get him on a one year deal. His salary shouldn’t preclude them from pursuing Yamamoto
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Yunior Severino was signed by the Braves in July of 2016. Does he need to be added? If that is the case I would prioritize him over Enlow and pretty even with Camargo.
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Just looking at stats it is an interesting comparison between Festa and Woods- Richardson who made opposite lists. Festa never made up it to 6 innings. Festa is older. In Festa’s comment you wrote about the high run scoring environment. That context was missing from Woods-Richardson’s write up. The Texas League has a high run scoring environment but the International League was higher. The strike out/walk ratio was also out of alignment between the two leagues where the IL’s rate was much lower. Adjustments to the or ozone were made the last month or so of the year. I don’t know if that improved the ratio. Festa did have a good year. Was it so much better than Woods-Richardson that they are trending in such very opposite directions? Did one make a huge jump while the other a huge drop? Was the context of the IL so skewed that it really isn’t possible to normalize the data? I think Woods-Richardson is earlier in his readiness for the major leagues while at a younger age than Festa. I expect they will be slotted as 7th and 8th starters and will be needed next year. I would rank them very close to each other in the Twins system.
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His walk rate was right at league average. Walks increased 20% last year in the IL last year. That is 45% than the major league BB/9. Walks per 9 in the AL has stayed about the same from 2018 (3.2 to 3.3). In the international league the rate wen from 3.3 to 4.8 in the last 5 years. The change in walk rate not only impacts walks but it results in pitchers working behind in counts and needing to give batters better pitches to hit. Our perception of performance has changed to the point where it appears the Twins having many good hitting prospects in AAA and few if any pitching prospects.
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Willi Castro's Huge Steps Forward
jorgenswest replied to stringer bell's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
He had a good seasons in AA and AAA at 21 and 22 and arrived in the majors at 22. He had a BABIP fueled (.448) 2020 and found the other side of BABIP in 2021 and 2021. As he arrived on the Twins, his path is similar to Celestino. Like Celestino, he was pushed to the majors young. He made mistakes at the plate, on the bases and in the field as a result of that rush. You might even recall Celestino’s BABIP fueled first two month of 2022 that gave false hope of his readiness. The Tigers ran out of patience at age 25 after 1007 at bats. I don’t think it was the change of scenery. I think it is the maturation of a player that takes time as he was rushed to the major league level. edit: Escobar also arrived in the majors at 22 and was rushed through the minors.- 22 replies
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The Twins will should plan for 7 pitchers needing to make 8 or more starts and they will probably have a 8th starter with 5. Last year Ober was number 6 and Varland 7 to begin season. If they add a starter, Varland is their best option for number 6 with Woods-Richardson and Festa following. I would Varland start in AAA and expect he will be needed in the rotation. If Woods-Richardson and Festa step it up then they might convert him to the bullpen during the season.
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Maeda is probably valued at 14-15 million. They could go try to sign a pitcher to 15 million like Lorenzan, Morton or Perez. That presents two challenges. One challenge is that they aren’t the only team looking at these pitchers. The other challenge is to get them to agree to one year for these older pitchers. They could trade for someone projected similarly like Kikuchi. He has one year left in his contract. There would be a prospect or player cost that has some value. There is no certainty a trade partner can be found. The benefit of overpaying by making a qualifying offer is the certainty of the signing that you can’t get in free agency and the retention of prospects. Even if Maeda chooses not to accept they get that certainty before heading into free agency. The downside is the extra burden on the budget. I would let him go but I get the benefits of making the qualifying offer.
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Players the Twins Should Sell High On
jorgenswest replied to NeverSeenATwinsPlayoffWin's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Good work @Riverbrian on the catching usage. I think we need all three of Jeffers, Vazquez and Camargo next year. Love this thread and hope a few at can’t stop bantering back and forth take it to DM or create their own tampering discussion. -
Whichever role he lands in, he needs to find a swing and miss pitch to help with right handed batters. I think the cutter is helping him more with left handed hitters. Like Ryan, he is very fastball reliant and both he and Ryan will really freed to develop a pitch that keeps the right handed bats off balance. I think both will get there. If Varland remains fastball mix reliant, he will have pitched himself out of the rotation for lack of an effective breaking ball.
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I don’t think they should prioritize roster changes to increase stolen bases. They should utilize the talents they have on the roster but I am not sure they have much more that can squeeze out an 80% success rate. They can be situationally smarter. If their right handed hitters that tend towards contact are coming up it would be wise to start the runner more often to stay out of the double play. Correa makes hard contact, bats right handed and doesn’t strike out as often. Those all lead to double plays. They need to take more risks with Julien, Polanco or Lewis on base in front of him.
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I appreciate the league average qualifier. He had a 100 wRC+. In 2021 it was 88 in high A. He repeated high A to start 2022 and it was 121 then he played the bulk of the season in AA at 92. Last year he was league average at 100. Jeffers and Rortvedt performed better relative to league. Jeffer’s wRC+ in the minors ranged 109-203 with a AA of 151. Rortvedt was 101 in AA and AAA and 132 in high A. Last year Rortvedt was 128 in AAA. I think our perception of Rortvedt was as a defense first catcher yet perceptions of Camargo are for his bat but relative to league Rortvedt was better while coming up with the Twins. It is partly the illusion of the run scoring context in AAA last year. Camargo is improving. He needs more time to develop his bat and reduce strike outs if he is going to help in the majors.
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What Should the Twins Do With Jordan Balazovic?
jorgenswest replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Do you think teams are going to ignore that skew in OPS given that he spent much of the year as a platoon player? In 2022 as a regular he had 165 extra plate appearances against right handed pitching and only 25 extra plate appearances against lefties. He hits lefties much better than righties. If you adjust the 2022 ratio of plate appearances to that of 2023 his OPS+ for 2022 would have been 106. I think the Twins saw that and hoped to get that level of platoon production but he didn’t dominate lefties as he had in 2022. Going the other direction if you take his 2023 numbers and scale them to that of a regular, his OPS+ is 93 and virtually the same as it was in 2022. Much of his WAR comes from his at bats against lefties. I don’t think any contender would view him as an every day SS. I do think he is valuable to the Twins in a platoon/bench even with some decline. I don’t think he has very much value in excess of his arb 3 contract though. I would be really surprised if teams would give up a significant prospect. I do think getting a return of a similarly salaried 1-1.5 WAR veteran is possible. I do think a prospect like Balazovic (out of options) or Headrick (getting old and needs a 40 spot) is possible. While we disagree about the potential return, we both hope you are proved correct. -
Players the Twins Should Sell High On
jorgenswest replied to NeverSeenATwinsPlayoffWin's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I am not trading Jeffers. I also don’t expect his numbers will be as strong next year. His slash stats were much higher than the expected batting average and slugging average based on contact from statcast. I think those are a better indicator of future performance. He may actually take a step forward next year but not get quite the same results. In that sense it might be a sell high. -
The Twins Would Be Wise to Trade Kyle Farmer
jorgenswest replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think both years were very similar. The slash stats favor 2023. Underneath those numbers is his ratio of at bats against left handed hitters. In 2022 when he was a regular he had a higher ratio of plate appearances against right handed batters which drove down his overall numbers. His fWAR in both years was virtually the same and both a drop from 2021. I think teams would probably project some decline with the glove and bat and would not view him as a starter at SS but rather a useful veteran addition to the bench. The return should be similar.- 50 replies
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The Twins Would Be Wise to Trade Kyle Farmer
jorgenswest replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What is the demand? The supply is low as starting shortstops are not hitting free agency. Doesn’t that mean the demand will be low? The Marlins are looking for an upgrade but they are trying to upgrade from Berti who is the same age which slightly above average defensive metrics and an OPS+ of 103. Farmer would be a downtown grade. For comparison Berti’s BtV value is 11.4 and Farmer’s is 1.6. Rosario is 9.8. I think only Mondesi in your tweet is lower. In the top 30 MLB pipeline there are 12 shortstops including 5 of the first 11. Ten of those have an ETA of 2024 or played at the end of last season. The Giants may move on from Crawford but they have one of those top SS prospects. The White Sox may move on from Anderson but they have one too. The Dodgers need a SS but they aim for the World Series. I think they will set their sites higher. I don’t see the demand and it may have been easier to trade Farmer last year when several teams lost a good starter and the demand was high. Farmer’s value at BTV value just below Balazovic, Headrick and Sabato. It might be a toss up whether to tender him and DFA someone else. They can trade him at the expense of someone like Balazovic but there is no gain. They will end up getting back in trade about what they lost. I think it is reasonable to expect a return similar to what they received for Urshela or traded for Farmer.- 50 replies
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What Should the Twins Do With Jordan Balazovic?
jorgenswest replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
He is out of options. Would you make him the number 5 starter? Would you DFA him in hopes of getting him through waivers and then start him in AAA? -
What Should the Twins Do With Jordan Balazovic?
jorgenswest replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Berti is 33 with an OPS of 749 and slightly above average defensive metrics. I don’t see how Farmer at the same age would be an upgrade. An upgrade might be their number 5 prospect who has a very good glove. Is that the best we have in a demand for Farmer? I think there are more prospects in the pipeline than starters retiring. Crawford from the Giants? There are 12 shortstops in the top 30 of the MLB pipeline. Many have any ETA of 2024 or arrived in late 2023. The Giants have one of them. -
What Should the Twins Do With Jordan Balazovic?
jorgenswest replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
A back up could be the top SS. It is a zero sum game. No one is losing a starting shortstop to free agency either. There are a few other teams with a tender or option decision like the White Sox and Anderson but that only adds to the supply when White Sox decide to go with their top prospect Montgomery. It actually might have a better market for the Reds to deal Farmer last year with so many teams in need of a SS. It could be a similar return as Urshela or similar to what the Twins traded. In that case it becomes a choice about whether the guy they take off the 40 to tender and trade Farmer is worth more than what they can get back for Farmer. If it is a player like Balazovic, I think it will be a close call. -
What Should the Twins Do With Jordan Balazovic?
jorgenswest replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
For any of these decisions options have a lot of value to the Twins. Alcala, Moran, Henriquez and Ortega have options remaining. Luplow, Stevenson, Gordon and Balazovic are out of options. They need to sustain performance at the major league level. Gordon is the only one who has shown sustained performance over a season unless you go back to 2019 for Luplow. I would give Gordon priority among the 4 who would need to be rostered all season. Free agents will be dropped from the roster and Farmer may be non tendered due to his arb 3 contract. After De León, Luplow, Stevenson I think Balazovic would be my next to go if roster space is needed. He is going to have to perform at a much higher level to make it through the season without DFA. -
Don't Forget About Jose Miranda
jorgenswest replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I have no idea how his spring training shoulder injury impacted his season. Miranda shown in AAA a 156 (AA was 162) wRC+ in 2021 and a major league wRC+ of 117 in 2022. Neither of those numbers came with a high BABIP or high strikeout rates. Severino could get there. He had a wRC+ of 165 in high A in 2022 and his AA was 139 last year. He needs to show that kind of performance in AAA over an extended time period before I would plan for him to take over at 1B. Miranda has shown he can produce in extended periods at both AAA and the majors. That performance should not be disregarded. -
Don't Forget About Jose Miranda
jorgenswest replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
When should time run out? Some suggest 1500 plate appearances.

