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  1. The problem is us assuming to be in a position to make an informed decision on Kirilloff's likelihood of returning. It's reasonable to assume none of us are specialists in this type of surgery and none of us have had the benefit of speaking with his doctors regarding prognosis. Soreness after surgery is normal. He is not reporting pain. That's as much as we know so to sit here passing judgement defies some very basic management practices. Gallo vs Urshella is a tradeoff in your mind that I seriously doubt the FO considered for 10 seconds. You are also only thinking about the right now. There is far more benefit in long-term solutions (Miranda). You also failed to consider Farmer was a back-up plan in the fairly likely event we did not resign Correa. Nor have you considered Farmer is a better than Urshela against LHP and has more flexibility. Farmer also has an extra year of control. He very well could be traded at the deadline so the net is another prospect or two. None of this addresses Lewis being on the horizon.
  2. It's going to be really interesting to watch and very exciting if we get fortunate in terms of the percentage that work out.
  3. Failing to invest innings in prospects is an even better way to be mediocre. It's not like they would be banking on one guy to step-up. They have Ober / Winder / Sands / Megill and Sanchez. Since the beginning of last year, they have added Lopez. Alcala is back. Jax improved a bunch. Moran got a foothold. Sands looked decent and the additions to the rotation have made Ober / Winder available. Plus Varland could take over a spot in the BP. It's hardly a travesty they have not signed a RP.
  4. We have about 10 young players / prospects that are here or AAA that have a big gap between floor and ceiling. It's scary but exciting too. I will be pulling hard for Kirilloff. He could be a fixture in the middle of the lineup for several years or be a complete non-factor. We all loved what we saw in Lewis but he is traveling a tough path. We have a couple guys that are yet to make it in Canterino and Balazovic who could be great or never see a MBL field. How big would it be for those two to put it together this year?
  5. I hated that pick more than any I can remember with perhaps the exception of Tyler Jay. I was hoping Corbin Carroll with his 80 speed and 60 hit tool would be available. Stot was still available as well. I was watching the draft and was very excited when we got to the 13 pick and Carroll was still there. Then, they call Cavaco. I remember thinking they better be right.
  6. The percentage of SPs who can still make an impact at 36 and beyond is miniscule so the fact that one or two exists hardly makes it a good idea. Plus, Kenta Maeda is a long way from Verlander and Scherzer and we have yet to see how that plan works out.
  7. Looking for solutions in pitchers who will be 36 years old next year should not be Plan A.
  8. St. Paul is going to have one hell of a team this year.
  9. I seriously doubt Ober and his teammates sees it that way. How you or I see it does not matter. Dealing with the psyche of professional athletes has to be part of the consideration.
  10. I would think they will want to keep Ober stretched out so that he is ready to take over a rotation spot if/when someone goes down. On the other hand sending a guy down AAA who has been relatively good at the ML level is a slap in the face. Some here have suggested stacking him and Maeda. Perhaps that's a good compromise, especially early in the season because the off days give the BP a break. It's going to be interesting to watch who ends up the front runners for rotation spots between Winder / Varland, Canterino, Balazovic and SWR. They need to keep the IPs up with the guys most like to take over the rotation spots opened by free agency. hard to say which guys seize the opportunity. It sure would be nice if this was the year we finally hit on multiple pitchers. The future would look bright indeed.
  11. I'm just glad they did not move him just to dump his salary. Apparently, they are not willing to let him go until they get a good return. I would rather they hold out and see what makes sense at some future point.
  12. I am not ready to give up on Ober as a starter just yet. There are plenty of other guys to audition for those spots.
  13. Hed had 4.2 fWAR in 2021. On what planet is that a bad year? Correa had 4.4 last year. 2020 was the Covid year which was roughly 1/3 of a regular season and he produced 1 WAR so once again he was on track for roughly 3 WAR. The facts and your opinion are at odds.
  14. I had the same recollection Doc but it's been so long I just don't recall what he was doing differently. Who knows what he has been working on as he prepares to return. We will have to see what he shows in spring training. I am very hopeful we see the best version of Alcala. That would be a big boost.
  15. Kind of .... Gallo has had one bad year (last year) in the past 6 years. He has been 2.8 - 4.2 WAR. He produced more WAR than Hanniger overall. I bet he would have gotten a similar deal had he not been so bad last year. I am OK with a buy low free agent with 5 previous good years. I don't think he adds much given they appear to be keeping Kepler but I also don't see a problem as long as the leash is not too long.
  16. No but you obviously missed the point entirely. Is avoiding a car accident unnecessary if you have never had one? It's a one year deal. Get over it!
  17. A 1 year deal for $11M just can't possibly be a horrible move because it just can't hurt the team all that bad. Signing Jacoby Ellsbury or Chris Davis. Those are horrible deals that hurt the team for several years. This just does not matter.
  18. You were speaking of what they will have available in 2024. Lots of pitchers get injured. Are we going to assume all of them will never be the same? Paddack will be back this year so by 2024 the assumption should be he will manage a normal work load. Could he get hurt again? Sure. Sometimes the expectations here get a little out of hand. How many teams go into a season with 5 proven starters and additional depth? Canterino / Balazovic / Festa and perhaps even Dobnak could also be contributing in 2024. The sky is not falling just yet!
  19. You forgot about Paddack. Lopez / Ryan / Ober and Paddack have all proven they belong at this level. Proving they are 1s,2s, or 3s is a different story but they are all solid MLB pitchers. Having 4 cost-controlled SPs as well as a BP full of const controlled RPs puts them in a very good position to go out and sign a very good free agent SP. That would leave them with Winder / SWR and Varland and perhaps Balazovic or Canterino as depth. They are not going to be back in the position of signing someone like Happ, Archer or Bundy.
  20. In terms of importance, I would start with Ryan pitching well against good opponents. He obviously has to get over that hurdle to be of value in the post season. Next for me would be Alcala finding a way to be more effective against LH hitting. That would make him very valuable. Then, I would have to go with Miranda at 3B. If Kirilloff is healthy he is the 1B and that might be more important than the 5 players listed here. Miranda actually looked better to me at 3B than he did at 1B. It would be great to see a more fit Miranda play at least average defense at 3B. We don't want Polanco to replace the OBP of Arraez. we need Polanco to play a good 2B and produce an OPS of 826 like he did in 2021 or 846 like he did in 2019. That would be more valuable than reproducing Arraez OBP with an OPS 60+ points lower that Polanco. I would love to see Gordon take it up another notch. That would make him a valuable asset. Having him and Martin in super utility roles would be ideal. They could cover every position except catcher and 1B. It would also likely mean that Larnach and or Wallner have delivered.
  21. I don't remember another year with so many young players we knew could make an impact but were yet to prove it. Kirilloff and Miranda are guys we can have some confidence in but I still feel like there is a wide gap between ceiling and floor. Will Lewis be healthy and look like he did in his debut. Larnach and Wallner have much to prove. Will Julien or martin get a shot and will they look like the players we saw in the AFL. On the pitching side, How will Alcala and Maeda return from injury and we really need Varland and SWR to get established this year with Gray / Maeda and Mahle reaching free agency. Can Moran muster enough command to be the dominant guy we know he can be. I saw a clip of Jax throwing 100 in a workout. Can they get more out of him. Of course, can Buxton stay healthy. Do we get 1st half Lopez or the guy that was mediocre with us. That's a lot of uncertainty but the good news is there is upside in that uncertainty. It would be particularly gratifying if a good portion of this came together this year.
  22. I am not all that excited about Gallo but he has consistently produced around 3 WAR with the exception of last year. He had a wRC+ of 122 while batting 199 in 2021 and produced 4 WAR. The 199 average is not ideal but I will take it over a guy who hits 260 and produces 2 WAR?
  23. True but people keep saying this without actually looking at how the Rays acquired their high performing players. Take a look at the 2019 and 2021 Rays players that produced over 1.5 WAR. 50% of the 2019 WAR and 46% of the WAR in 2021 was produced by players acquired by trading established players for prospects. Prospects defined as players that had never previously produced 1.5 WAR in a season. Only 25% was produced by drafted players in 2019 and only 21% in 2021. They actually got 29% from free agents in 2019. The difference in the Rays is that they do a great job trading established players in a similar fashion to what the twins did with Berrios and Arraez. It's easier to identify good prospects when they have 2 or 3 years of professional baseball under their belt. We shall see if those trades provide similar value for the twins. Cleveland is a similar story.
  24. I agree they have not been good but I also feel they are in pretty decent shape today. They don't have a legit ace but they are very deep in quality pitching. The inherited a lack of pitching and a team in the bottom half of revenue has to get extremely lucky to fix that in free agency. I don't blame them for what they inherited. I don't blame them for Maeda's injury. It was a good trade. I also don't think you a being fair on Odorizzi. They got 6.8 bWAR in 2018-19. They gave him a qualifying offer for the Covid year (2020) and he pitched 13 innings which of course amassed no WAR. They paid about 1/3 of that qualifying offer so they got 6.8 WAR for roughly $22M not $33.5M. A little over $3M per WAR is a bargain. Plus, they must have gotten a comp round pick, right?
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