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  1. I said yesterday Bundy should never pitch for the Twins again, they should thank him and pay him his remaining salary and say good luck next year. There is ZERO reason to have him on the Twins any longer. (FYI I would have said this even if he pitched a perfect 6 innings yesterday this season is over and he has no future with the team, or at least shouldn't.
  2. I don't see the twins moving off the philosophy of limiting pitcher exposure to the other teams lineup, if anything I see them moving the other way next year, more piggy backing or starter games to let the main pitcher get deeper into the game. For example start a Jax/Varland for two and then bring in a Winder/Ober for 5 innings and then only having to use two back end relief pitchers a game. Because them using 4/5 every night for one innings can't be the solution next year. Maybe they will let guys go further if they are on, but Ober/Winder/SWR for example will still be on a inning limit (I would think) after the innings they pitched this year.
  3. It is just a feeling I have that he isn't buying into the system. I could be completely wrong on that. But why spend 12 million on a guy that averaged less than 5 innings a start on the hope that a pitcher that usually get injured doesn't get injured?. I think they could get similiar results from one of the other six starters that have. Ryan, Mahle, Maeda, Ober, Winder, Varland or possibly SWR. Maybe a team like SF, Seattle, Houston, Toronto that seem to have a little different pitching philosophy would take him and a Larnach for example to fill a more needed void. (outfield, Catcher, something) or use that saving on extending Correa or another SS.
  4. IMO Ryan, Ober, Winder, Henriquez, and SWR gets all the rest of the starts, Maybe throw gray in for one or two. But I think he is traded after the year so don't really care about him getting any more.
  5. He doesn't do a lot for me, I like that he is a young 22 and has a high K rate, but he seems like a relief pitcher going forward. Hope I am 100% wrong on that.
  6. Well if they move him expect a ton of short starts, he pitched 16 innings last year and only 65 so far this year, can't see them doubling that next year. Or maybe next year they actually piggy back starters and don't blow out the pen by June. At this point they have Gray, Ryan, Maeda, Mahle, Ober, Winder and Varland I would expect to be ahead of him as starters plus Paddack coming back. but I fully expect Gray to be traded and don't expect them to bring in any starters except for back up in AAA. As for May he wasn't that great of relief pitcher not sure he would have been better as a starter. (His career ERA is 4.35)
  7. Is there any reason to put a 23 year old with a career in the minors of .220 BA, .294 OBP and .390 SLG on the 40 man and hit .209 in AA? I think not and I also don't think there is any reason to put a 26 year old career minor league player on the 40, unless of course the Twins plan on converting him to a relief pitcher.
  8. I assumed that was satire or sarcasm because nobody can think you can make up 7 games and jump another team in 17 games. Cleveland play KC 6 times and Chicago 3 times, ?‍♂️
  9. I am not saying move on from him, but him being a 1st round pick and a college star was 4 years ago. Larnach like just about every Twins prospect has performed enough to keep people excited and not want to trade him, but not enough to decide if he is actually worth a starting spot (Minus Miranda).
  10. He has done nothing as this time and should be nothing more than a Plan B at this Point. Hopefully he pushes into a starters job.
  11. Coming into the season they had a former all star catcher and top prospect, former all star at first and top prospect right there, the guy at second was coming off a 4.9 WAR, All world SS, third was manned by Urshela and Arraez, Buxton and his 4+ WAR in Center, A solid RF and top prospects in LF, Traded a first round pick for Gray, Had super rookie Ryan, Stud second year pitcher Ober and signed Bundy and Archer and all that was just to get to .500? Prior to trading Donaldson, Garver, Petty and Rogers I could go along with .500, but then they signed a 35 million dollar all world short stop, traded a recent 1 st round pick, Donaldson, Garver and Rogers and a prospect pipeline just waiting to explode, and my expectations went up to higher than .500, maybe not 90+ but higher than .500. Now I don't blame this on Rocco, think it lies more with the FO, which is why I believe he will be back.
  12. My guess for what is next with Rocco is that he will meet with the FO and they will talk about minor tweaks to their approach and he will be managing the Twins in 23 and it will be very similiar to the last three years (I don't mean results, but that wouldn't surprise me, I mean style, game decisions, etc..)
  13. 3 of the first games of the season Gio Urshela was hitting 4th.
  14. an both have been pitching in the majors since age 22 and 23, so the odds say they are likely to out perform the guys getting to the majors later (Winder/Ober/Varland for example)
  15. What about the outfield next year, that seems like a huge question mark again. If they go into next year with Buxton, Kepler, AK/Larnach and nobody else for the 3rd year in a row?
  16. I put this in another thread. Coming into the year the twins top 6 starters were. Gary - 22 starts Ryan - 23 starts Bundy - 25 starts Archer - 25 starts Ober - 7 starts Paddack - 5 starts Smelzter - 12 starts That is 119 starts of 139 games, and they traded for Mahle and got three starts. that is 17 games that basically they had to fill the rotation and if you add Winder that is down to 10 games. The problem wasn't the injuries it was the top 4 pitchers killed the pen and this FO and manager decided to fill that void with mostly 1 inning relief pitchers. As for the injuries to the offensive guys Buxton and Polanco hurt the most, but if you are the FO you really need a plan B and C for Buxton because we all know he isn't playing the whole year. AK, Larnach, Jeffers have never done anything in the majors so again you need a plan if they can't hit or get hurt, doesn't seem like there was one. In conclusion the injuries hurt but more than the roster construction? I am not so sure.
  17. Totally agree with this take as well. Cleveland for example this year top 6 starters were 4th round (2016), 1st (15), 1st(16), 12th (16), 3rd(16) and 3rd (18). (not all their picks)
  18. Again you are 100% correct, but by age 23 Kershaw had pitched 715 major league innings in the majors, 107 at age 21, 171 at 22, 204 at age 22 and 233 at age 23, Verlander in his age 23 season pitched 186 innings and 201 the next year, Scherzer is a better example he pitched 133 in AAA, AFL, and the majors at age 23. (I don't think Laweryson or any Twins prospects are these guys, which is fine that is a high bar for anybody) The amount of innings in the minors isn't all that important, what is important is building up to good amount of innings (arm strength/stamina/ect) and it is generally a good sign if that have done that by their early 20's. Fast movers that have built up their arm by the time they make their debut so they can hit the road running, generally end up being the better pitchers. Innings for the young guys (18,19,20) isn't as important as moving though the system and having success, so at 21,22,23 they are ready for full time major league starting (whatever that means in this day and age). Guys that do this at a later age I think of more as bottom of the rotation and bullpen arms (maybe great bullpen arms like Duran for example). I really hope this twins group of older prospects (23 and up) buck the trend and become super successful because is it great to good./solid starting rotation on the cheap.
  19. Agreed going forward this could be a good thing, hopefully WInder can stay healthy. I didn't list them because they were part of the pitchers that covered the 17 games and weren't part of the original six/seven starters It will be interesting where they fit in next year, but have all winter to discuss that
  20. The Twins have played 139 games and have gotten gotten 95 starts from Ryan, Gray, Bundy and Archer. If you add the 5 from Paddack and 7 from Ober before they got injured that is 107, meaning they had to cover 32 games, Smelzter covered 12 of them and Mahle 3, So we are really talking about 17 games and that is too much to over come? To me that say more about this front office than anything else or the lack of people that cover the Twins actually looking at the data. But that is just me getting sick of excuses.
  21. I agree, they still have Archer/Bundy/three rookies and Gray as their starting pitchers, generally not a good sign.
  22. He is basically what I thought he would, he is a 26 year old rookie so the odds and what he did last year said he should be a starting pitcher with an ERA between 4 and 4.50, and averages about 5 innings a start. He has only really had one real bad game a handful of clunkers and a handful of really top end starts. If he wants to step it up he has to become more efficient with his pitches, way too many games with really high pitch count and low innings. Next year is the year IMO that really shows who he is, is a 5 inning high pitch count guy, or does he figure it out and pitch a little deeper into games more consistently.
  23. One of your best, pretty deep SCSU reference (I like it) wonder how many will get it.
  24. You know what amazes me is how the Twins don't have one Spencer Strider type, a 23 year old pitcher that has started at lest the 6th inning in 11 of his 15 starts and was drafted in the 4th round of 2020. Or how 12 pitchers just yesterday went a minimum of 6 innings, don't these teams know about pitch count, batters faced and TTO? The last time a Twins pitcher went 6 innings was August 26th. and since then the Twins starters have given up 3,3,4,2,5(Mahle), 5,8,5,9,6, and 1 hit (Gray 5 innings). And the worst 4 were wins.
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