TwinsDr2021

The only thing wrong with SWR was that this was his first game and not his second.

I didn't say don't, I just gave my opinion on it. Sure offer it, I don't think it will make the experience being there better, but again that is my opinion.

I personally have no interest in paying for a ticket and having to have watch other stuff on my phone at a game. To me this totally takes the experience of being at the game away. Secondly my family wouldn't put up with me having my head buried in my phone for 3 hours, they don't like me checking my fantasy stats occasionally, a percentage of the cost to attend a game is the time spent with family/friends. IMO On TV (I mean if I actually got to watch Twins games on my TV) is a different story in my humble opinion.

There are no free agent 3B IMO worth anything, MLB list Carpenter as DH FA. There are no minor league players ready to fill 3rd, so it comes down to three players, Gio, Miranda and Arraez. Gio seems the best option.

Did you mean no under 35, I am over that age and I remember Markie very well. You satire is way better when you stay out of the political fray, this was well done. "Night Court, a sitcom set in a New York City courtroom, ran from 1984-92 on NBC. No one over the age of 35 knows what it is"

Should it be a surprise that the Twins are trying to run their team like Tampa(28th), Oakland (30) or Cleveland (25) and they end up with the same type of attendance issues? First fans want wins, but they also want to watch a good product of baseball and guys they know. The Twins were terrible in 21 (strike against), they play a terrible game of baseball to watch (strike against), the biggest names this year were a guy leaving after the year and a guy that has been hurt most of his career(strike against). Also it tough to get to know the young guys if you don't have cable tv. So my assumption is attendance will not improve next year, coming off an epic collapse, Correa leaving, manager coming back, and no streaming deal that I know of. Selling hope with no get to know them advertising.

I still have high hopes for these 3 but I would feel better if they weren't 25, 25, and 26 and have done something to establish themselves already and the backups weren't Cave, Celestino and Gordon.

Tough to hate a team that plays like I wish the twins did (Cleveland). For example the Twins have 32 stolen bases, Cleveland has 5 guys with 17 or more, totally changes the pitchers mind set when guys get on. The Twins have more power and walk a bit more, but Cleveland has struck out over 200 times less than the Twins. Cleveland has two starters that average over 6 1/3 and another at 5 2/3, and have done a better job of filling starts with lesser guys. I haven't liked Chicago forever, couldn't stand those 80's uniforms.

Favorite line.? Name a positive for the Twins season? At least we are not the most tortured fan base, well we got that going for us. My 5 postives - #1 - Duran #2 - Ryan #3 - Thielbar/Jax #4 - Gordon #5 - The size of the Twins payroll

This was an amazing outing by Ober, but in reality the end result wasn't much different than most games by Twins starters. He had a low pitch count, faced 24 and only allowed 3 base runners and one wiped out by a DP (and the Twins extended the lead to 4 in the 6th). He was perfect in the 5th and the 6th (which was required to continue pitching). In the 7th he walked the first guy and the next two were right handed and the runner was removed by a DP, If Sheets can to bat he would have been removed. . In the 8th he was removed when a runner got on and 91 pitches. To pitch that deep into a game the starter has to basically be perfect after the 5th and have a low pitch count and the opposite handed batter can't come up with guys on. I not complaining just or criticizing the Rocco, just pointing out how things usually work.

I completely agree with this, could those teams do more, maybe, can they be the Dodgers absolutely not. Does limiting the Dodgers for example make MLB better? I think it would be same as now or worse. My point was some people are claiming other sports with their caps are doing better at parity and that just isn't true, unless the definition of parity is only what you said it was.

I get cash flow, what I was saying is they could spend more money here even if they lost a little money at the time because it could help their bottom line later on. I have worked at companies that have spent more then they took in a year because it was going to bring in more money later. The rest I completely agree. Did the Twins lose Berrios/Santana/Hunter (that is 3 guys in 16 years) because they couldn't afford him, or were unwilling to pay what the player wanted or what another team was willing to pay, that is a huge difference. I said back in the day I would love Hunter to be on the Twins, but if the Angels are willing to overpay him that much good luck, the Twins should be able to spend that money better, not sure they did. As for Santana again hated to see him go but they got a haul for him, not sure that haul worked out though, and for Berrios the Twins proved they could have afforded to sign him, I think that wasn't so much about money.

So 6-9, 7-9,6-10, 2-14, 4-11 to 10-7 and the super bowl is fast? OK Seems more like after a 6 run playoff out of 7 years, they rebuilt the team over a few year got the number 1 pick (QB, who then got hurt) and then he got healthy and the drafted an amazing WR, but sure I guess that could be considered fast.

I am good, getting plenty of hugs at home. Did I say he was old? maybe I implied he was getting old for a prospect and he is? I also believe/hope he will be fine and wish him the best. I guessed your missed the part where I typed I understood why he is where he is.

IMO forced parity is a fairy tale that drives down the competition and results in bad outcomes. So penalize the good front offices so the bad one can compete? Penalize teams for doing the right thing and developing their own talent by limiting the ones they can keep? Teams that make the playoffs can have their farm system gutted because they can only keep 30 players? Also for a playoff team couldn't they just not protect their over priced veterans? I could see a more revenue sharing and teams that don't hit a soft spending floor losing picks thus forcing them to spend a bit more and teams that spend more than a soft cap also losing picks.

Am I missing a team that has went from the bottom to the top in the NFL fast or vice versa?

Generally signing players to long term contracts ends up hurting the team at the end, so unless the Dodgers change course in the next couple of years they will end up with overpriced not so good players. Now if they can continue to fill these issues from within this run will end and they will have to start over in some fashion, similiar to the Yanks or Sox, and to a less extent the Braves (they have had their own up and downs the last 20 years. Who is saying the Twins should spend hundreds of millions more per season? My guess is no one, but they bought the team for 35 million in 1984 and today is worth close to 1.4 billion. If they would have spent 10 million more every years for the last 40 years they still would have gained 1 billion in value, correct? I am not against putting some sort of caps or floors into MLB, but to expect the results to be much different than what is happening or different than what is going on in other sports IMO is crazy talk. At the end of the day baseball is about building from within and supplementing where needed and they terrible run teams are still going to be terrible. I believe I have read there is 2 new teams to the NFL playoffs on average per year, the NBA is about completely about the mega stars; teams have tried tanking and rebuilding and it only works if you draft a mega star and in a city they want to stay in or the star force trades to cities of their choice. The NHL is about mega stars and giving the contracts to right players and if you mess up and give a contract to the wrong players (Suter and Paraise for example) if takes years to get out of cap hell, which I believe is they path MLB would end up going down with a hard cap. Salary caps benefit the super stars because they are always going to be paid. I believe the path the Twins FO took is the correct path building a pipeline of prospects that can replace players looking for long term contracts, the problem with this path is you have to be lucky with injuries and guys fulfilling their potential or it requires more time. (example Balt and Pitt). Ultimately I will ask the question again, are teams really loses players they want to sign to larger contracts to big spending teams? Or are teams realizing other teams will give them multiple pieces that as a whole will be better for the team in the future than that one or two guys?

He should be pitching in Target field tonight and not in St. Paul yesterday. ?‍♂️

Royce seems like an amazing person that should be considered a role model for all youths (and adults) for getting though adversity and tough times like a champion. I hope he goes onto to have a amazing career, hopefully for the Twins. Yes, he missed a year covid and has had two nasty injuries, but can we get over the he is still young. He'll likely will be 24 when he sees target field and in no time in history of baseball is that considered young for a prospect (unless you are a catcher). He needs to get healthy and start producing for the Twins ASAP. For reference (age of their first full season) Gary Sanchez 23, Miranda 23, Correa 20, Polanco 22, Urshela 23, Kepler 23, Arraez 22, Buxton 22, Sano 22, Jeffers 24, Larnach 24, Gordon 25.

One could argue beside the international FA that is where MLB is at, they all start with the same draft, same minor leagues and the ability to sign/retain whatever FA they want, correct? Sure some teams are unwilling to pay the price of some free agents but many times there are more things than money involved in that decision. Fans like to complain about the twins being a mid market team but what player have they not been able to retain solely because of salary, I can't think of any. In reality there are very few players that teams can't retain because of Salary. Yes I understand teams trade players prior to FA because they likely aren't signing them (because they can't, because long term contracts are dangerous, maybe the team isn't ready to compete) but in return they get something a value. If you gave 50 million more a year to Tampa or Oakland do you think they would start spending it on big time players for long term contracts, I would say no.

Are you claiming there is parity in the other three sports? (NBA, NFL and NHL) The warriors have been to 5 of the last 8 NBA finals, The lightening have been to 4 of the last 8 cups, and the NFL has basically been the Rams, Chiefs and Tom Brady for how many years. (The NFL and NBA are star driven leagues and the salary caps only hold the bad teams back by not being able to outbid for players. ) Big cities and great management win in salary cap leagues and bad management and undesirable locations fall by the way side. To me this sounds like a Twins fan complaining about a cheap and not so well run team for 30 years.

The only rational reason Bundy is still on the Twins is the FO is trying to lose. And just like last September guys that should be getting their feet wet in the majors are toiling away in the minors while a guy like Bundy who should be hitting balls on the golf course is pitching for the Twins.

SWR should be pitching for the Twins on Tuesday piggy backed with Ober and not in Saint Paul today!

Big fan of pulling Ryan after 4, first it keeps his wins down and and causes is ERA to go up which are both good for Arbitration later on.

Confused on the point of your message. Hildenberger didn't play at California until he was 21 (not sure what took so long, injury? Red shirt?) Then was drafted at 23 and played at two rookie teams. At age 24 he A, A+ and Fall league, at age 25 He played A+, AA and AAA. At age 26 he started in AAA and came to the majors. And like I have been saying about guys that debut at that age he was in the pen and basically had how do I say this nicely, a less than stellar career. Which goes back to the point of my previous message, which you confirmed saying basically has no future in the majors. "The only reason to put a 5 year senior that is 24 in A ball is because you think he has no future with the Twins "