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  1. Don't forget included in that group were Berrios, Meyer, Thorpe, Jay, Jorge, Stewart, Mejia
  2. I would pass on Snell, don't need another high pitch count lower innings type guy. As for Nathan, when was he awful? His rookie year(Just two years into his pitching career) where is ERA was 4.18 in 90.1 innings (almost exactly the same innings,ERA and Age as Ober, I will give you Ober's secondary numbers were much better)? He wasn't good the next year (ERA - 5.21), and then didn't pitch in the majors again for two years, assuming he was terrible then? And age 28 he was good again and great for quite a while. Can we stop comparing possibly HOF players to Twins prospects, it isn't fair to either.
  3. wasn't really trying to say it was or wasn't a bad/good/great trade, and in IMO it was a push as of now, but others could argue different and be right. I was just pointing out it was an off season trade and this FO has done pretty darn good with off season trades in general even if this one isn't an obvious win right now (It will look better next year I would guess unless Donaldson finds a fountain of youth). My point was they haven't done a in season trade to better the team, yet that has been great. Best I could find - Baseball Reference's WAR (bWAR) focuses more on the outcomes of a game while FanGraphs is known for valuing the peripherals more
  4. Don't have an answer for your question. I was going off of BB Reference, doubling Donaldson's WAR since he is likely to play 67 games the rest of the year. Sanchez WAR is .6, Gio is 1.0, and Garver is .4.
  5. Seems like the perfect type of guy to trade for a relief pitcher.
  6. No sign of return from injured list Alcala (elbow) remains in a holding pattern and hasn't made progress after being shut down once again June 1 with tightness in his pitching elbow, Dan Hayes of The Athletic reports... Impact There have been conflicting reports on whether Alcala is set to throw again or has been shut down for an extended period. Either way, it doesn't sound like he has a chance to return any time soon. Alcala has been on the injured list since April 12 with right elbow inflammation. He made a rehab appearance June 1 but was later shut down again with tightness in his pitching elbow. 4 DAYS AGO • ROTOWIRE
  7. I agree with the first two you mentioned (Maeda and Gray) and Odo, all three were trades prior to the season. Both Maeda and Odo had 1 really good year (Odo had a second decent year) and Gray is on his way to a good to better first year here. I will say great trades. Celestino, Duran, Alcala, Ryan and Smeltzer were all trades that traded away a vet for minor league guys and have also have been great, you could argue the Pressly trade, but not important. The Donaldson trade for the other two plus Correa is a push at best since Donaldson is on pace for a 4+ WAR, but also could be argued it was really good. So they are been good at trading no doubt, especially acquiring other peoples minor league talent. But were they have fallen short is trading to help the team in season. Just my thoughts.
  8. I would add it is July 11th and they are 8 games over .500 and 4.5 games up on second (with the other top 2 teams not living up to expectations) there is no guarantee that happens in the next how many ever years. I sure as heck hope it is even better than that, but most of us assumed 21 would be division title contender at least and it wasn't even close. With that said the future does look bright with the things @Major League Ready has said, so I am not for trading the whole farm for this year, but I am all for trading a few minor league prospect to solidify this first place team, hopefully that result is two pitches better Romo and Dyson.
  9. I am confused by this, Fox sports has the twins tied for 4th (Blue Jays and Cubs) with the most blown saves (17), behind the Rays, Braves and Red Sox. And 20th with 19 saves and the tied for 3rd with 57 holds (Astros) The holds being high isn't a huge surprise since you get quite a few chances when the team is good and the bullpen is required to pitch more innings, The Twins are 25th in Quality stars (22), one behind Detroit, and one ahead of Baltimore and the Royals. "https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/team-stats?category=pitching&season=2022&seasonType=reg"
  10. Very true, he was a 4th round pick out of Stetson by San Diego and was traded to Cleveland in 2010 (he was in AA), Cleveland had him in the majors the next season (age 25 3 games), 12 games in 2012, and he kind of broke out in 2103 with a 11-5 record and 3.85 ERA, then was amazing for 5 years.
  11. For his career Alcala has blown 5 of 17 hold/save opportunities and has pitched 2 1/3 innings this year, so lets hold off on the "Twins bullpen would take on a remarkably different view" until he proves he is worthy of it, which probably won't be until close to the end of this month at the earliest. I hope he comes back dominant but that is all it is as of now, hope. Ober has averaged less than 5 innings a start in his 27 starts, so thinking he will come back and do something he really hasn't ever done is asking a lot, he seems like the perfect guy to piggy back Archer's starts. Maeda is a complete unknown as of now and in likely hood won't be asked to pitch many innings this year whenever he comes back. I think they could all be good or better, but lets be realistic about how the Twins handle pitchers.
  12. He will be 25 in a couple of weeks, I see him as a bullpen guy at best moving forward. I was hoping he would come out on fire this year and force his way to MPLS, he does still have some time but he needs to get it figured out in a hurry.
  13. are people really not happy with the return or are they unhappy of the progress of the two? At the time it was two top 100 prospects which is great. Lots of people thought Martin could be the opening day left fielder and some thought SWR could be in MPLS this summer, now I thought both of those things weren't possible, mostly based on the 40 man. If Berrios was doing great this would like a slam dunk for Toronto, but with they way he has pitched and the extension he signed it looks good for MN regardless of how well the prospects have done so far. I expect Berrios to turn it around at some point and I think Martin is going to be more of a Gordon than a starter and SWR should at minimum see some time in the bullpen. So at this point I still grade this as a positive for the Twins.
  14. I like Gallen, I love his controllable years, don't like he isn't super efficient with his pitches, he runs his pitch count up to the 90's and 100's while only pitching 5 or 6 innings. So I don't see him as real upgrade to the starting pitcher staff, specifically if you have to give Winder up as well. I have three pitchers in the Twins organization that I would say are off limits, Ryan, WInder and Duran. Ober is close but I feel more comfortable trading him then the others. Go talk to Baltimore about Lopez and Tate and 2 and 3 years of control, offer Cavaco, Henriquez and Sands, and maybe another flyer on a guy in the low minors. Based on the simulator it is close.
  15. Maeda is an unrestricted free agent after next year as is Gray. As of right now next year's rotation is Gray, Ryan and Smelter. Bundy has a million dollar buyout or a 11 million dollar salary. Archer has a mutual 750k buyout or 10 million dollar salary. Ober hasn't pitched in two months and has few weeks of rehab before pitching with the Twins again. He should come back and do well but as of today can you plan on it? Winder has 29.1 major league innings and should improve going forward but again as of today can you really plan on it? Maeda is still coming back from injury and has to prove he still has it and is healthy. Paddock, I am not even sure when he is due back. And as far as I can tell no minor league pitcher (at this point) has really done enough to be called soon and establish himself as a legit starter for next year. With that said I don't think now is the time to extend Gray, unless he saying he wants a year or two extension or he will be demanding a trade or something along those lines, plus the Twins need to figure out if Ober and Winder are legit major league starters that won't spend most of the year(s) on the DL. Now the other side of the argument could be if you could lock Gray up for 3 years at a reasonable price, Ober or Winder and a prospect or 2/3 could be used to bring in a starter with some control for another team.
  16. Kind of confused why the Twins would trade for a guy with a higher ERA and WHIP then any of its current starting pitchers. I agree with @nicksaviking I think starting pitcher's innings are more of a organizational philosophy then a problem with the pitchers. Taking Bundy out the other night wasn't because he can't pitch more than 60 pitchers (he has proved he can) it was the Twins way.
  17. I think the real answer is neither, Joe Ryan isn't a top 10 or possibly top 20 starter in the American league (He is currently 50th in the American League in innings), maybe he could have been but Covid kind of killed that for him. Duran has been really good and has a pretty high WAR for a relief pitcher, I see him getting lost in the conversation, because of the terrible teams have relief pitchers with similiar numbers, and of course the big save guys will make it.
  18. Are people (not you) saying that the twins traded a former 1st round pick and pretty high pitching prospect and paid a guy 35 million this year with an opt out at the end of the year, so they could play rookies and young guys this year and plan on competing in 2 or 3 years? IMO they brought in guys to compete this year and traded Rogers because they got a couple of good/decent pitchers with a couple of years of control for a guy they had no intention on signing and no intention on trading away with in a pennant race. I also believe they thought they would be running all the young guys out and seeing what they had, just kind of happened all at once with the injuries.
  19. Miranda has played in 16/20 games this month and 38 of 48/49 games. Over a full season that is roughly 126 games for a rookie, that seems like a reasonable amount of playing time, especially with how bad his first month was. Currently he is sitting with a negative WAR (-.6) I see that getting much better, but if he goes the way of Larnach or AK last year and they trade Gio, things could get ugly. I believe the team is doing a job with Miranda, and if he continues to play well, he will get more and more playing time.
  20. The way I look at it is there is someplace between 28% and 29% he gets a hits. (Basically his career average), Kepler has a 24% chance of getting a hit. Neither of them are great odds. But if Correa moves the runners up, Kepler has 23 career sac flies or if they walk him, Sanchez already has 2 this year. Now since Correa doesn't have even one career sac bunt (that I can tell), the odds are he would have failed and this would be moot, but even giving a sign that he might bunt can change the fielders position and the pitches mind set
  21. In extra innings with guys at 1st and 2nd in a tie game, yup, shouldn't your number 4 batter be able to hit a fly ball? You need one run to win the game, I am going to do whatever it takes to win. Do I want Correa bunting in the first 9 innings or needing more than 1 run to win in extra innings, absolutely not.
  22. I would say it was most starters weren't allowed to start an inning at or above 100 pitches, not limited to 100. That is what made the piranha's so successful (and the darn Yankees) they could run the starting pitchers count up pretty quickly and get to the pen in the 5th or 6th inning, and if they could do in on the first night of the series it could affect the rest of the series (even in a loss)
  23. Fans complaining about managers/coaches and their decisions/choices how dare they. We need to stomp this out before it catches on in other sports and other cities.
  24. Did the Twins need 2 runs to win the game, nope just one, and they had a guy at second with no outs. So it sounds like they were thinking of bunting Buxton since he attempted it and the Indians pitcher walked him. So now they have base runners at first and second with no outs. If they were willing to bunt Buxton, why not Correa? Because they were afraid they would walk Kepler? Of course the next three guys struck out and they still had runners at first and second. Watching the replay's of those three at bats, Kepler looked like the only one of the three even trying to just get the ball into play. IMO
  25. Agree, I can't complain about Ryan's usage, or how he used Pagan and Duran. I also agreed with stealing Gordon (I would have done it one of the two pitches prior. The part I would complain is not bunting Buxton/Correa in the 10th.
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