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  1. TwinsDr2021
    Hope that injured Pitchers come back as good or better than they were, Hope pitchers that have been hurt in the past don't continue to get hurt. Hope the Twins sign a top starting pitcher and change their starting pitching philosophy for said guy. Hope the Twins sign a really good bullpen guy. Hope that that is no regress from Miranda. Hope a 26 year old minor league SS (not even currently on the 40 man) gets us to the SS of the future in Lewis and hope Lewis is what he showed this year in 41 plate appearances. Hope they sign a catcher and Jeffers come back and is better than he was this year. Hope Buxton is at least as healthy as he is this year and that Arraez is in the top 5 in batting average and on base percentage. Hope that Jax and Moran do what they have done so far this year. Hope that two rookies in Sisk and Schulfer are viable bullpen arms. Hope that the following players are at their best Larnach (Pre-June), AK (Post April but with some power), Celestino (pre-July) and Gordon (pre-July) and are healthy. And hope both Cleveland and Chicago play like they did in 22 or at least close to as bad as they played. First I would like to say I hope everyone of those things happen, But lets be honest that is a lot of things that need to fall into place (Now I understand they don't need all that to happen to compete for a division title next year, but if most of it doesn't happen we could be sitting in the same spot next year claiming that 24 is the real year to compete)
  2. TwinsDr2021
    Mahle makes more sense because he probably has a better chance of buying into the only face 21/22 guys a start philosophy more then Castillo IMO. This year he is averaging facing just over 23 batters a game, but is been over 100 pitches 10 of the last 12 games. The Twins could tell him they could cut down him facing a few guys a game bringing his pitch count below 100 and he would have better numbers and a better chance of staying healthy. I think Castillo would tell them to pound sand he is looking for a his first and last big contract at age 31. Just my two cents
  3. TwinsDr2021
    You are correct he isn't wrong per se. The offense blew up the starter and first relief pitcher which in theory sends the Brewers down the path of using their worst relief pitchers which might allow the offense to continue to pile on runs but to no available the Twins pitching staff said we will have none of that and gave up just as many runs as the offense scored and allowed to Brewers to bring in their shut down arms for the last three innings and Rocco blames the offense for that. It is ridiculous to say because the pitching staff can't hold a team to less than 6 runs it is on the offense for not scoring of the back end of the Brewers pen.
  4. TwinsDr2021
    Is the really a question, it should go without saying they are the worst. The Twins have 14 stolen bases that is dead last in the majors and the next closest team has 26. 17 players have more stolen bases than the Twins whole team. For example Gordon and Polanco lead the Twins with an amazing 3 stolen bases. Here is a list of Yankees that have move than the Twins leaders (and these aren't speed burners) Kiner-Falefa (14), Hicks (9), Judge (9), Locastro (6), Rizzo (6), Torress (5), LeMahieu (4). Want to know who is tied with Buxton (2), Joey Gallo, Jose Trevino (yes a catcher), and two former twins Josh Donaldson and Marwin Gonzalez. Last year they were tied for 24th (only 4 teams had less), in 2020 dead last, in 2019 you guessed it dead last, in 2018 they were tied for 27th (only 3 teams had less), In 2017 they were 9th, in 2016 12th. This FO is absolutely adverse to stealing bases, which I think leads to them be bad everywhere on the base paths.
  5. TwinsDr2021
    You mean before after they signed a SS to a 35 million dollar contract or traded a former first round pitcher for a guy with 2 years of control? Which pitchers would you like brought up? Balazovic, Enlow, Henriquez, Sands, Smeltzer or Strotman, those are the only pitchers in the minors on the 40 man? Or are you talking about bringing up guys that need to be added to the 40 man? One to argue this core isn't even as good as the core that was assembled in the late 2016 - 2021 and how did that work out? This play for the next year attitude when you are in first and have been for months is perverted, hey lets give up on this year so we can play for the totally unknown next year, its sad.
  6. TwinsDr2021
    IMO it has to do with how much the Twins have over performed (based on this years expectation) on top of how bad the pen has been and how terrible Chicago has been and there only 3 games separate the two teams. If some of these guys on Chicago start to click and the Twins don't change, well I think we know the outcome of that.
  7. TwinsDr2021
    I agree the bullpen wasn't bad, but it wasn't 2 ER in 5, it was 2 in 4 2/3. You gave Duffey credit for an out he didn't get, and remember there were still two guys on so if it wasn't the 9th it could have been much worse.
  8. TwinsDr2021
    Enlow is already on, doesn't take away from the point of your message.
  9. TwinsDr2021
    I am don't have a subscription to Baseball America, but they just posted an article a couple of days ago, the name is Teams Rarely Regret Cost Of Trading For A Star Position Player. Here is one snipit I can read. (Maybe the Twins should be going after a position player as well as a few relief pitchers) For teams acquiring a star position player, the price has almost always been worth it in the last 30 years. For teams trading away players of that caliber, history shows it’s important to manage expectations: no matter how many years of control are left, no matter how touted the young big leaguers or prospects acquired in return are, no matter how much money is saved, teams overwhelmingly don’t win trades when they deal players at that level. In all but the rarest cases, the best they can hope for is that the deal comes out even.
  10. TwinsDr2021
    I am more worried about the Sox then Cleveland. IF Cease keeps pitching this well and Giolito starts pitching like he has in the past, Cueto continues finding the fountain of youth, and Lynn and Kopech get hot that is a pretty solid rotation that could put together a few long win streaks. and with Graveman, Lopez and Hendriks that is a pretty good back end of the pen. If they add Robertson or Bard that looks pretty formidable. Plus their lineup isn't terrible and if a few of the guys that have been terrible play better (Pollock, Moncada, Grandal and Jimenez) things could look real bad for the good guys.
  11. TwinsDr2021
    Not to get to far off topic but remember last year when people were losing their minds because the Twins traded Ynoa and Gil and how they could have been the savior to the 22 rotation? Kind of amazing nobody seems to be anywhere near as upset over losing Wells in the rule 5 to Baltimore. And it is crazy that he as a career WAR of 2.5 which is higher than Ober's (1.5) - (To be fair he is almost a year older) Back on topic, to me after reading all the messages and seeing all the prospect names that have been mentioned, it seems the Twins have somewhere between 10 - 20 guys they could easily trade for relief pitching help without hurting the "pipe line"
  12. TwinsDr2021
    I would hope those on the trade Correa bandwagen are also on the trade Gray, Sanchez, Kepler, Duffey, Smith, Archer, Pagan, Bundy, Sano, Cotton otherwise your logic makes zero sense.
  13. TwinsDr2021
    I think like everything else people want to hear what they want to hear. In this case I believe I understood beans point, and was confused at Steve's thread. But other times I am the one hearing something different.
  14. TwinsDr2021
    If you are going down that path, they could make this trade and claim Castillo is part of of the pipeline as well, since it was Winder and SWR/Berrios that got Castillo? Does the pipe line look better with Castillo, Gray, Ryan, Ober or Gray, Ryan, Winder, Ober? The first looks better this year and next, probably not so much after that though.
  15. TwinsDr2021
    Not really meant for you, but it fits my narrative didn't the Twins give up the farm to compete this year with trading Petty and spending 35 million on Correa? So if that didn't get the Twins were they want to be isn't selling the best thing for the twins (Kepler, Gray, Correa, maybe Pagen and Theilbar, and really not anybody named Buxton, AK, Larnach, Lewis, Winder, Ober, and Ryan) Or do the Twins have to go even further in, since they decided have already spent a first round pick and 35 million and they are 3 games up on second? I do agree with you selling the farm isn't the way to go I am completely against trading for a starting pitcher, I don't believe they would change their usage of a new pitcher any different than they treat their current starters, but the real question is what does selling the farm really mean? Is trading 2 two top 10 prospects and 2 top 20 prospects (between 10 - 20) and lets say 3 outside of the top 20 selling the farm? Is trading Lewis the farm? It would be interesting what people thinking trading the farm means? Now I believe the Twins could trade, Strotman, Enlow, Cavaco, Sands, Sabato, Varland, Henriquez, Steer and Wallner for example and not really effect the Twins going forward the next few years.
  16. TwinsDr2021
    I am twice his age and 10% as athletic as Winder, but shoulder impingement doesn't sound good for him. I have been dealing with a shoulder impingement for going on 9 months and it is no fun. Good Luck to him.
  17. TwinsDr2021
    I like your thinking, he is a switch hitter under control though next year, That would free up a trade with Larnach and a pitching prospect for a controllable pitcher.
  18. TwinsDr2021
    Well if you work is like mine, they don't care one bit about my opinions on the MN Twins. Can't imagine why?
  19. TwinsDr2021
    Interesting, So Duran goes two and Gray 7, imagine if Gray only goes 5, how f'd the bullpen will be after that game?
  20. TwinsDr2021
    I am with @nicksaviking I see a big second half from Polanco. I also like AK to improve and really start his ascent to one the better players in the American League (fingers crossed). As for Ober I don't see it, I don't think he will even be allowed to be the Ober of old until mid to late August and that Ober is no star, just a 4-5 inning pitcher. I can't imagine he can, will have the time or be allowed to even put up Chris Archer's first half stats and I don't see anybody call Archer a Twins first half star.
  21. TwinsDr2021
    Maybe the solution to this problem is 8 starters that go 4 innings, Smelter/Gray Ryan/Bundy Archer/Winder Ober/Jax That caps all their innings at 160 if perfectly healthy and go 4 innings each time. Then you have 5 short guys to rotate though. Duran, Thielbar, Pagan, Smith Duffey for example, and if need be the bus system to St. Paul. Nobody would ever have to face a batter the super scary 3rd time, Seems to completely take injuries out of play by limiting pitches and innings, seems like the perfect solution plus you never have to spend big money on a starting pitcher because no starting pitcher worth anything would agree to that. So you have piles and piles of money to spend on offense/defensive. (I mean I hate everything about it, but....)
  22. TwinsDr2021
    When you go though the league leaders and All Star lineups, most of the players were guys that had at least made the major league debut during age 23 or before. Now there are some exceptions, catchers and relief pitchers tend to be a little bit older. But generally if a guy hasn't had a cup of coffee prior to age 24 he is way less likely to be an all star for example. There were 20 pitchers that pitched in the all star game, 10 made their major league debut at 23 or younger, which mean 10 were older, the oldest were 25(3) two were relief pitchers and one was Gonsolin. 7 were 24 3 were starters the other 4 relief pitchers. There were 42 batters in the all star game. 2 debuted at 19, 8 at 20, 9 at 21,8 7 at 22, 4 at 23, 5 at 24, Judge and Alfonso are the big guns, followed by France, Cron and 3 catchers. 2 at 25, (Espinal, why was he chosen over Polanco and Trevino a catcher. 3 at 26. (Cooper, McNeil and Cronenworth) Croneworth seems to be the outlier. So yes there are guys that become stars or better than just major league players, but it is the exception to the rule not the rule. That is why for me Martin has dropped out of the top 10 he turns 24 prior to next season and if he doesn't make his debut this year (which it certainly doesn't look like) the odds he becomes anything like Arraez and not Nick Gordon go way down To me I get sick of hearing about the Covid season as an excuse, and it seems mostly to be propping up the Twins prospects to be better than they are, and yest it pushed back most of the players a bit, but the real stars rose to the top. I mean Lewis has missed a season with injury and Covid and still debuted before his 23rd birthday (barely) Bobby Witt missed the Covid season and went from rookie ball to AA.
  23. TwinsDr2021
    Arg, I know he is 25 and a old 25 at that (26 in three months), and I know I am being inconsistent, but I thought he should have came up directly from AA last year and IMO has pitched so much better than the rest of the prospects and beside the end of the year doesn't seem been injury prone, so maybe it is by default I moved him up because the rest I have moved down and I didn't feel I could put teenagers and guys that haven't pitched in the minors above him.
  24. TwinsDr2021
    Besides Archer(17.63) the Twins are pretty consistent on how many batters they let their starters face on average. Bundy - 21.19 Ryan - 21.86 Gray - 21.17 Smelzter - 21.33 Ober - 20.29 Winder - 21.14 From my research only six times all year has a Pitcher faced more than 25 batters (3 - Bundy, 1 each from Gray, Smelzter, and Ober) in a game and only twice more than 27 (Both Bundy). What this tells me is while it seems wildly inconsistent on what Rocco is doing with the pitching staff from game to game, the plan seems to be to get a starting pitcher to end an inning right around the 18 batters faced mark even if that means pitching to a few guys a third time to accomplish that and in a rare few cases letting them pitch an extra inning if it is the bottom of the order. Also it tells me if you are a pitcher, you might as well go all out just about every pitch because it doesn't really matter how well you do or save yourself for late in the game, it isn't happening. IMO the Twins have ZERO plans on changing this plan, because from what I can tell this is exactly what is happening in the minors as well, so hoping we get some stud like Shane Bieber for example isn't going to happen, thus also the reason I don't see them signing a high priced free agent starter, why would the Twins sign a guy like Musgrave/Ray/Rondon/etc.. to a high price salary when you are going to limit their innings, and if you are one of those guys and you want to leave a mark on being one of the best pitchers in your generation why would sign here? Also IMO that is why the Happ/Shoemaker/Archer/Bundy's of the world are willing to sign here because that takes advantage of their skills. Just took a peak at Berrios and in 20 his average was around 22, and the start of 21 it was around 21-22 until mid may, but after than average around 26, speculation maybe that is when the two sides decided the Twins wasn't his future and the Twins realized they needed to pitch him more to showcase him? He only pitched less than 6 innings in 3 of his last 15 starts here. and then again instead of being on to something maybe I am just on something.
  25. TwinsDr2021
    That was going to be my question has Winder lost his status? If not he is my number 2, Lee 3, Rodriquez 4, then 5 would be Raya or Prielipp. I am more in the camp that the top prospects should be young or at least on the younger side. The Steer, Wallner, Canterino will all be 25 (probably) before they see their first major league action. My reasoning is older guys end up more like Gordon than lets say Arraez or Buxton. I also like what Steve Hajjar is doing (minus the innings per start) but 62 K's in 39 innings is impressive and should be moving up the lists fairly quickly.
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