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  1. TwinsDr2021
    He will be 28 years old on July 12th, if the Twins are still using kid gloves on him that is ridiculous. I hate to be cancelous but he is at the age they should use him until his arm falls off or he establishes that he is more than a 5 inning pitcher. Would anybody really care if the Twins "abused" him ( you know pitched his average inning up a whole inning or let him pitch to dare I say 100 pitchers?) and he ended up with TJ surgery or hurt? I wouldn't, it would prove his body can't handle being a starting pitcher. Sure they could move him to the pen, but it better be a role that is pitching 2 to 3 innings, he has proven he can dominate a lineup one time though.
  2. TwinsDr2021
    The only reason to put a 5 year senior that is 24 in A ball is because you think he has no future with the Twins
  3. TwinsDr2021
    We are talking about the same Celestino? The 23 soon to be 24 year old player with a .617 OPS correct? and Not a different actually young prospect that I didn't know about?
  4. TwinsDr2021
    Here is the list from MLB - Trea Turner (29, 12.1 WAR) Xander Bogaerts (30, 10.2) -- Can opt out Carlos Correa (28, 9.7) -- Can opt out Dansby Swanson (29, 9.1) Tim Anderson (30, 6.7) -- Can opt out Elvis Andrus (34, 4.2) -- Can opt out José Iglesias (32, 3.0) Alcides Escobar (36, 1.1) Andrelton Simmons (33, 0.6) Marwin Gonzalez (33, -0.1) Dee Strange-Gordon (35, -0.3) Didi Gregorius (33, -1.1) I am not sure where they are getting the WAR from?
  5. TwinsDr2021
    Isn't that how 23 looks next year If Buxton is healthy, if Miranda figures it out, If AK comes back, If Larnach is the good player we seen for a minute, If Ryan improves, if Ober/Winder/Gray/Mahle aren't hurt, If Maeda comes back like 20 and not 21. If Jeffers can actually hit. If Polanco stays healthy. Lee is either going to be a stud or not, the longer he spends in the minors the less chance that is likely to happen. Start him in AA and if he gets hot get him up. (Like Atlanta has done with their prospects, minor league prospects don't have to spend years in the minors) It wouldn't be the end of the world if he is not up next year but he better be playing well enough that he is in the plans for 24.
  6. TwinsDr2021
    He might play for a team like the Tigers but anybody that starts a 26 year old career minor league player at short stop isn't being serious about contending.
  7. TwinsDr2021
    If Lee is as good as well all hope he should be ready for a call up next year, he turns 22 before the season and while that isn't old is shouldn't be unreasonable to expect him to get time next year.
  8. TwinsDr2021
    I agree on the pitching side for the most part (They did have Berrios, Maeda, Pineda, Dobs, Happ), but they went into 21 with Garver, Sano, Polanco, Simmons, Donaldson, Buxton, Kepler, Arraez, and Cruz (With Larnach, AK and Lewis waiting in the wings). Not sure next years projected lineup is better than that projected lineup, I sure hope it ends up better but going into 21 that felt like a pretty good lineup and a fairly decent starting 5.
  9. TwinsDr2021
    That is a sign of growth and progress right? ? See a problem/issue and fix it. (I mean sure we all would have liked to have this happen in game 49 instead of 149 but.....)
  10. TwinsDr2021
    This started with baok0010 stating this - "Maeda is a solid number 2 who pitches like a 1 somedays. ' I pointed out that besides 11 starts in 2020 that has never been the case and also said People seem to forget his 21 season, where he was a 5 inning pitchers with an ERA of 4.66. wabene came back with - "His UCL was hanging on by a few threads at that point." My response was "OK, does that explain 17, 18 19? " So you are either saying he is a solid number 2 who also pitches like a 1. (Which the stats and data you put out doesn't back that up at all and claim he is a solid #3) or you missed how this started out. I will assume the second one? People make ridiculous claims like this all the time without backing it up with data. (Not you! but I like to point out the flaws in statements like this because others grab onto them and say them as true) One could argue he barely pitched like a 2 in 2020 let alone a 1, but that didn't seem like a discussion worth having.
  11. TwinsDr2021
    OK, does that explain 17, 18 19?
  12. TwinsDr2021
    In the majors Smeltzer really only had two bad games, the 6 ER he gave up in 4 1/3 on 6/26 and the 7 he gave up in 3 1/3 on July 9th. Since that game he has went 10 2/3 and gave up 3 runs. He has 6 quality starts in 12 starts. Bundy has 2 in 27, Archer 0 in 25, and Ober 1 in 9 starts. With that said I don't think he should be anything more than a plan B or C for a Twins starter. IMO I don't think Enlow deserves to be on the 40 other than he was a 3rd round pick back in 17, He is already 23 and hasn't done much of anything in the minors to this point. Henriquez doesn't do a lot for me but he is a young 22 and can strike out guys, which translates into a really good bullpen arm iMO. I have never been on a Sands fan ( I do wish him well) but I don't see a need for him to be on the 40 if there is a need for somebody else. I don't know much about Headrick other then he will be 25 in December which translates to relief pitcher, so I don't see a need to protect a 25 year old relief pitcher. I do like that he has been healthy enough to pitch over 100 innings.
  13. TwinsDr2021
    What makes you think I expect more starting innings from Maeda, Ober or Winder? I have a feeling Ober will be on some sort of inning limit is whole career as a Twin, unless he magically stops getting hurt. I also expect Winder will be on some sort of innings limit since he only pitched 72 in 2021 and is very likely not going to make it that far this year. Maeda coming off a year off except he would be on a limit as well. Now the Twins could do what some have begged for this year and make them 40 game 3 inning pitchers to piggy back off of 5 innings starts or they could have them start 25 games and pitch 5 innings and burn the pen out again. I don't have any idea what how the Twins will do that. Maybe they let Ryan, Mahle and Gray being pitch into the 6th or 7th inning guys and they have the last two spots be piggy back type starts. IDK IMO I don't see the Twins changing much, I think they might let a few select starters go a bit deeper next year, but they better be damn near perfect, not let runners on after the 4th and have a low pitch count to boot. (Similar to Ryan's last two starts)
  14. TwinsDr2021
    Gray, Mahle, Ryan, Ober, Maeda, Winder, Varland, SWR, Balazovic, Enlow, Henriquez, Sands, Smeltzer, They have 13 currently on the 40 or IL and Paddack coming back at some point. I am not sure if there are other starters that need to be added, but at some point if they add more they have to subtract some as well and the only one I see right now is Sands unless they think Smeltzer can be dropped and resigned.
  15. TwinsDr2021
    Maeda had 11 starts in 2000 that would qualify, other than that has never shown he is anywhere near a number 2 starter. He has pitched 6 seasons (135 career starts) in the majors and has a career WAR of 7.4. And since his rookie season has innings of 134.33, 125.33, 153.66, 66.66, 106.33. People seem to forget his 21 season, where he was a 5 inning pitchers with an ERA of 4.66.
  16. TwinsDr2021
    First sentence is ? spot on as is the second. The second sentence should pasted on the top of every message thread on this site!
  17. TwinsDr2021
    The two combined to start 52 games, the Twins won 21. In those 52 games the Twins got 234.66 innings and a ERA of 4.51. and averaged less than 4 2/3 innings and that isn't a problem? From June 14th on the Twins lost 11 of Archer's last 13 starts. From the Beginning of August the Twins went 5 and 4 in Bundy's starts which isn't bad, but in those 9 starts he game averaged less than 5 innings a start and once went 5 1/2 meaning the bullpen had to pitch basically half the game in those starts. I agree with everything else you said.
  18. TwinsDr2021
    "Therein lies the definition of the 2022 Minnesota Twins season: A failure to capitalize." Agree to disagree; 2022 should be the year of a bad plan and template for what not to do. (Players and Philosophy) They went into the season with no real plan B's. There Plan A was full of players that the odds say were probably going to get hurt based on their history. Gray, Ober, Winder, Buxton, AK, Archer. Or hadn't been all that good prior, Sano, Jeffers, Bundy, Sanchez, Kepler, Pagen, Jax, Smith. The starting outfield was Larnach, Buxton and Kepler and their plan B was? Celestino, Gordon, Garlick, Cave, Contreras, and AK? Wow, hard to believe that didn't work out great. When they decided to pay Correa and trade a first round pick for Gray, they should have shored up the back ups, they didn't. When everybody seen the bullpen was being overused early in the season they should have changed up what they were doing, they didn't (and I don't mean longer starts, that may have helped though). They let Chris Archer start 25 games (They team lost 16 of those games) and only pitched 102 innings with an ERA of 4.56. From June 14th on the team lost 11 of his 13 starts. They should have done something different with Buxton starting in July (He only had 14 singles in July and August and hit .214. Pagan blew 7 of his 16 save/hold chances? I could go on and on,
  19. TwinsDr2021
    I said yesterday Bundy should never pitch for the Twins again, they should thank him and pay him his remaining salary and say good luck next year. There is ZERO reason to have him on the Twins any longer. (FYI I would have said this even if he pitched a perfect 6 innings yesterday this season is over and he has no future with the team, or at least shouldn't.
  20. TwinsDr2021
    The trade simulator has Lewis and Ober working for Lopez, or Brooks Lee, or Larnach and the Twins would have to add to it. Can't see the Twins doing either of the first two and I can't see the Marlins doing the third, so they would have to get creative or overpay and after they deadline deals I don't see overpaying. IMO
  21. TwinsDr2021
    I don't see the twins moving off the philosophy of limiting pitcher exposure to the other teams lineup, if anything I see them moving the other way next year, more piggy backing or starter games to let the main pitcher get deeper into the game. For example start a Jax/Varland for two and then bring in a Winder/Ober for 5 innings and then only having to use two back end relief pitchers a game. Because them using 4/5 every night for one innings can't be the solution next year. Maybe they will let guys go further if they are on, but Ober/Winder/SWR for example will still be on a inning limit (I would think) after the innings they pitched this year.
  22. TwinsDr2021
    It is just a feeling I have that he isn't buying into the system. I could be completely wrong on that. But why spend 12 million on a guy that averaged less than 5 innings a start on the hope that a pitcher that usually get injured doesn't get injured?. I think they could get similiar results from one of the other six starters that have. Ryan, Mahle, Maeda, Ober, Winder, Varland or possibly SWR. Maybe a team like SF, Seattle, Houston, Toronto that seem to have a little different pitching philosophy would take him and a Larnach for example to fill a more needed void. (outfield, Catcher, something) or use that saving on extending Correa or another SS.
  23. TwinsDr2021
    I don't mean being held back from promotions, and I said "not saying they are invalid reasons" Maybe a better word would have been limited, and again this FO has been here since they drafted Royce Lewis first overall in 2017 and every pitcher they have drafted or brought in for more than a minute have been limited. An by your comments your are fine with what this front office has done.
  24. TwinsDr2021
    To be clear I said 1 pitcher like that, just 1 not a whole rotation, just 1. Isn't that why they were hired? Are you OK with them being here since they drafted Royce Lewis 1st overall in 2017. The best they have done is Ober and his 28 starts averaging under 5 innings a start. (not discounting Jax and Duran but they aren't starting) I would say all of them, I have read on here that every pitcher is being held back because of injuries or innings limits. Are you saying that isn't true? (not saying they are invalid reasons for this) I have heard that for Varland, Ryan, Winder, Ober, Duran, SWR
  25. TwinsDr2021
    IMO Ryan, Ober, Winder, Henriquez, and SWR gets all the rest of the starts, Maybe throw gray in for one or two. But I think he is traded after the year so don't really care about him getting any more.
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