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To calibrate a bit you need to include the playoff pitching in your plans You also should be including that in your season totals

The season is long. Too any pitches who probably can’t pitch 200 innings. So, if you do not want gassed pitchers in the playoffs, they need the 5th starter to open the season. There is always the bullpen game if you have more quality bullpen arms

So you want the Pohlads to have more money. It is be an _________________ about money for athletes week because somebodies good fortune wasn’t yours

My, have you lived a charmed life. You are so lucky

By results so far what they have drafted for college arms in the high rounds would indicate they have to try something different.

Last year Brooks played in 125 games. The year before it was 88. Maybe he learned he had to get in better shape as his performance tailed off at the end of the year.

Some people have a notion that age impacts talent. That is why they make such a big deal of comparative age to level of play.

If Bref had service tie for all players it would have been used. They only list it for active mlb players

Maybe they approached him after the first season here and he said no. Can’t make them sign

You have never dealt with something like pain for 2 years have you?

Other than Berrios what pitcher would have been worth signing ? It is not the least bit weird

What is charmed about rupturing a tendon and basically losing your career at this point?

Several years ago there were a couple of articles that stated if your prospect wasn’t in the top 20 the chances of them being a good ajar league player were sli. The internet being what it is, I can’t find the again. People get excited about rankings so I did some looking.. MLB.com is the quoted source most often so I used their ranking for the 2013-2017 rankings. It is also free to look at. Ito evaluate success or not, I used WAR. That is generally accepted as a decent measure of play. Fangraphs says that a 2 WAR player is a solid starter, 3 WAR a good player, 4 or ore have superlatives attached. The numbers. 4 is an all star level. The other studies considered only the player’s play up until free agency. That is the accumulated WAR total I used. I did not add or subtract a pitcher’s WAR for batting. In consideration that the 2020 season was involved for most of the players I defined a Star at accumulating 20 WAR,, Good 15, Solid 10. For pitchers I dropped it down to 9. The explanation will come later. The WAR totals are from Baseball Reference as it was easier to double check the ranking and service tie. The patterns for pitchers vers hitters are distinctly different. The results will be posted that way. For the players that had not completed 3 years of service tie and still on the way up, I did not include them I did not include Ohtani as he was not developed in the minor leagues. I did not include Oscar Tavares because he did not have a chance to play more than one year The dismal first. Pitching 132 were ranked at some point in their minor league career. 2 pitchers were at the All Star level 12 were at the solid starter level 18 were solid starters 59 did not even accumulate 9 WAR 18 dropped out of the rankings and none accumulated enough WAR 10 never made it to the big leagues 13 were given incomplete data 13 pitchers had final rankings in the top 20. 3 rated as good, 6 as solid, 4 as not so good. 22 pitchers were ranked between 21 and 50 Gerrit Cole, 3 good starters, 3 solid starters 15 as not so goods Over 20 missed time during their career, as this showed up as blank seasons. Shoulder and UCL repair was the culprit. That tmie for some was non productive in their service time. I looked up news articles on the.m The not so good pitchers were not all useless. I did not keep track of the number, I should have, but many were the ones developed as relievers. WAR is not a good ease for a solid or good reliever. I did not want to figure out what defines a solid reliever. Being that very few came up as relievers, I left it alone. Perhaps that would have made the solid pitcher number look better. I did not keep track of it but a lot of the solid pitchers turned in great seasons after season 6. Gausman comes to mind analysis of why these totals are so low for pitchers will require digging and crunching On average Fangraphs the last 3 years each year has 20 pitchers at 4 WAR or better, 20 as good, and 35 as solid. When you look at the 3 years in aggregate, the numbers drop to 9, 19 and 32. None of this really has anything to do with the rankings other than showing why the success rates do kind of reflect the rankings. 19 of the not so good prospects ended up as traded for solid to star players. To give you a little context, according to baseball reference over 750 pitchers made their professional debut between 2013and 2017 Among them and unranked by MLB.Com were.Tanner Roark,, Chris’s Bassit, Kyle Hendricks, Edwin Diaz, Sandy Alcantara, Jack Flarety, Jordan Montgomery, Shane Bieber. They missed a few solid to star pitchers The section on hitters will come later.

I didn’t think I needed to add that is a mighty big if. ERA in a relief pitcher with few innings is not the best judge of pitching talent. Tampa continually gets good seasons out of retreads and failures. The difference between a serviceable pitcher and not is not hat big

At a glance you could notice a decent strikeout rate coupled with a high HR rate. If the fix for the HR is better sequencing they might have something.

Hindsight was not needed to say that if they could have made a Sonny Grey type trade in 2021 they should have done so. If he had top of the order potential at that time he would have been highly ranked at the time, not in the low 90s

It depends on which prospect ranking service you look at. Balazovic had already fallen out of the MLB top 100 rankings. That is not a sign of future success. The time to have traded him was after the 21 season. He pitched reasonably well in AA, in 2022 but not a lot of innings. I doubt Cincinnati would have wanted him

Their reclamation projects either break or have a short shelf life.

They may well be worth 4 billion. Most likely all in assets not cash in hand. Still doesn’t show where the losing of money on the Twins would be effective

Never said the Twins were a losing money business. Did say that they have had seasons where they lost money.. Still the notion of spending more than your means has not been shown to be effective except in your own mind

Yup, Bellinger could have pitched the Twins out of the hole that was dug when Gray did not win his game

They tell you the source of how they got the revenue, not how they figure expenses. When the new regime took over they stated how lean the operation was from an employment standpoint and began hiring. The profit listed stayed the same. Of course I am not as smart as you on this stuff so please feel free to explain. How more help equals the same profit in relation to revenue.

So, how many scouts do the Twins have? How much does it cost them for the Fort Meyers complex. How much does each member in the front office make. The reality is nobody knows. They really don’t know. They can figure out revenue by as sales tax collection is public. I don’t think income tax records are. So, how do they know? Liberty Media may be a public company but that dosen’t tramslate to every other club is run the same way

From the Forbes web page on the 2022 season TEAM VALUE 1 $1.39BCalculated March 2023 OWNER(S) Pohlad Family CHAMPIONSHIPS 3 YEAR PURCHASED 1984 PRICE PAID $44M REVENUE 2 $267M OPERATING INCOME 3 -$27M DEBT/VALUE 4 20% PLAYER EXPENSES 5 $172M GATE RECEIPTS 6 $68M WINS-TO-PLAYER COST RATIO 7 84 REVENUE PER FAN 8 $44 METRO AREA POPULATION 3.7M MEDIA PARTNERS Tv: Bally Sports North; Radio: 830 WCCO, 102.9 The Wolf Revenue and operating income are for 2022 season and net of revenue sharing and stadium debt service. They Los money in 2022

The media monies are well known Forbes looks at sales tax revenues because that is a public number. The in stadium revenue for 2023 would be the same as 2022 plus whatever increase for attendance. The model presented Ed is flawed because there is an assumption that everywhere is the same price for things.