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    Make It Official! Twins 4, Guardians 1: The Thing That Happens Didn't Happen This Time


    Hans Birkeland

    It wasn't without some scary moments, but the Twins held everything together this time, collecting a much-needed and relatively straightforward win in Cleveland.

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    Box Score:
    Starting Pitcher:
    Zebby Matthews: 4 2/3 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K (76 Pitches, 47 Strikes, 61.8%)
    Home Runs: Willi Castro (12)
    Bottom 3 WPA: Matt Wallner (.250), Castro (.205), Matthews (.121)
    Win Probability Chart (Via Fangraphs):

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    Full disclosure: I wouldn't have watched this game if I wasn't assigned to report on it. Watching the Guardians is excruciating, worse than any Yankee game, including the playoffs. If I have to watch the Twins carry a one- or two-run lead to the late innings and that godforsaken Will Brennan gets one more bloop hit to set off a rally, I will not be in a healthy place mentally. I would gladly prefer that José Ramírez, whom I dislike personally for the market impacts of his contract (as well as his flagrant assault of Tim Anderson), actually win one of these games for Cleveland, instead of going 0-4 and letting some weird-looking rookie drive home the go-ahead run for the 40th time in three years, after the Twins blew easy scoring chances in each of innings two through six. Just for a change of pace; I expect to lose, just mix it up a little.

    Sometimes when you lose all hope, that's all you need.

    Today's game featured two rookies, Zebby Matthews for Minnesota, and Gavin Williams for Cleveland. Williams was much-heralded as a prospect, and watching him pitch with his hammer curve, 94 MPH cutter and 98 MPH fastball, its hard to imagine how he has an ERA over 5.00, but he has given up a lot of hard contact. Matthews is still figuring out how many strikes to throw and when, and if tonight didn't go well, I wouldn't have been surprised if newly signed Cole Irvin takes his final two starts of the year.

    Matthews certainly looked like he was pitching for his job at the start, hitting 97 MPH with his fastball and retiring the first five hitters he faced. After a walk to Monday night's hero, Kyle Manzardo, Brennan delivered his customary bloop hit, but Matthews struck out Bo Naylor on a sharp slider to end the threat.

    Williams pitched well against the Twins in August, and cruised through the first few innings, getting a lot of chase from aggressive Twins hitters. Ryan Jeffers broke the seal with a swinging bunt to start the third, and after two outs, Byron Buxton worked a walk. That brought up Matt Wallner, who was in a 0-17 skid. He fell behind 0-2, but took a tough cutter for a ball and then stroked a mistake fastball into right field to score Jeffers.

    Matthews allowed a runner into scoring position for Ramírez with two outs in the third, but struck out Cleveland's third baseman with a darting slider way out of the zone for the third out. But hey, if these games were won in the first three or four innings, the Twins would be 8-2 in these match-ups, not 2-8.

    Right on cue, Lane Thomas demolished a fastball 424 feet from Matthews in the bottom of the fourth. Matthews didn't let that snowball, however, and retired the side after the homer, including a challenge strikeout of Brennan on a middle-middle fastball.

    The Twins responded with two outs in the fifth. Buxton, whom we were all concerned would be rusty and/or limited physically coming back from his hip injury (which is by no means healed), rocketed a ball 107 MPH into the gap and easily turned the hit into a double, despite the ball being cut off by the center fielder. Wallner then fought a ball off his hands over Andrés Giménez's outstretched glove to score Buxton.

    Matthews allowed a leadoff hit in the fifth, but got a key double play from Brayan Rocchio, who was initially attempting to bunt. Facing the lineup a third time, he allowed a sharp single to Angel Martinez, which prompted Rocco Baldelli to turn to his new acquisition, lefty starter Cole Irvin. Irvin got Giménez on a one-hopper to Royce Lewis, and the game marched on, a slow drumbeat toward the inevitable--or so it seemed.


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    With one out in the top of the seventh, Buxton drew his second walk of the game. Baldelli was then faced with a test: Wallner was due up and the Guardians were bringing in lefty Tim Herrin. Manuel Margot has more range in right field and is employed to hit lefties, but he is 0-28 pinch-hitting this year. Make that 0-29, as he chopped into an inning-ending double play. The drumbeats grew louder.

    Baldelli made, perhaps, an even more curious decision in the bottom of the frame, with Ronny Henriquez taking over for Sands. This was partially a result of an even stranger decision from the front office: the optioning of Jorge Alcalá.

    Manzardo bleeds a single up the middle.

    Myles Straw pinch runs (he's fast). Brennan bats. Henriquez picks to first and... Straw is OUT? Has the curse been broken? With no momentum to capitalize on, Brennan actually makes an out. That brings up Cleveland's no-hit, no-field catcher, Bo Naylor. He grounds out. What is going on here? Is Henriquez an answer? Did the offbeat choice to go to a middle reliever in a high-leverage spot throw off the cruel universe's rhythm?

    The Guardians then brought in their most flammable reliever, Nick Sandlin. He got Santana to pop out and fooled Lewis so badly on a slider that trainers came out to check on the oft-injured slugger's wrist. But there is a reason Sandlin is the bane of every Cleveland fan's existence: Larnach stroked a single and then the struggling and forgotten Willi Castro murdered a fastball middle-in to change the game and give the Twins a three-run lead.

    What am I talking about? A three-run lead late against Cleveland is more like a two-run deficit. In any case, Jhoan Durán was brought in to keep them in the game. 

    But he didn't let the leadoff hitter on. He got the next guy, too, with a tremendous diving stop from Santana robbing Martinez of a sure hit. Then Giménez, who exists only to play defense and torment the Twins, struck out on an excellent Durán curveball.

     

    This one was really going to hurt. It felt like that scene in the Lord of the Rings when the stupidest hobbit drops the chain down the well. It looked for a bit like the Twins' most hobbit-like reliever, Louie Varland, was coming in to close it out, but this was a clever ruse by Baldelli, who opted to use Durán for another inning.

    To no one's surprise, Ramírez doubled. The good Naylor struck out. Lane Thomas worked the count to 3-2. Durán's pitch count got to 30. A close pitch was called ball four, and Griffin Jax was summoned with the tying run at home plate. All-Star David Fry was summoned to pinch-hit. Jax manhandled him, striking out Fry on four pitches.

    But Brennan was next, and despite having little power, you could tell he was trying to tie the game up with one swing. Instead, Jax got him to tap a ball to Brooks Lee, who booted the ball, giving the Guardians life. Visions of the hole in C.J. Cron's glove whirled around my head. But before the moment could sink in and sink the Twins, Bo Naylor swung at the first pitch and tapped back to Jax, who took the ball himself for the game-winning out.

    Trends:

             
      Healthy Hurt    
    Performing        
    Contributing        
    Low Impact        
    IL/Minors        
             
    C Ryan Jeffers 📉 Christian Vazquez 📈    
    1B Carlos Santana 📈 Alex Kirilloff 📉 Jose Miranda 📉  
    2B Edouard Julien 📉 Kyle Farmer 📈'    
    3B Royce Lewis 📈      
    SS Carlos Correa 📈 Brooks Lee 📈    
    LF Matt Wallner 📈 Trevor Larnach 📈 Austin Martin 📉  
    CF Byron Buxton 📈 Manuel Margot 📉 DaShawn Keirsey Jr. 📈  
    RF Max Kepler 📉      
    UTIL Willi Castro 📈 Michael Helman 📈    
    SP Pablo Lopez 📈 Bailey Ober 📈 Joe Ryan 📉 Chris Paddack 📈
    RSP David Festa 📉 Zebby Matthews 📈 Simeon Woods Richardson 📉  
    CR Jhoan Duran 📉 Griffin Jax 📉    
    SR Brock Stewart 📉 Cole Irvin 📈 Cole Sands 📈  
    MR Caleb Thielbar 📈 Scott Blewett 📈 Michael Tonkin 📈 Louie Varland 📉
    LR Josh Winder 📉 Ronny Henriquez 📈 Randy Dobnak 📉 Diego Castillo 📈

     

     

    Stray Notes:
    -This team has very little speed to work with. With Larnach, who can't run due to a hamstring issue, on first in the eighth, the Twins pinch-running options were Christian Vazquez, Jose Miranda and the footless Carlos Correa. Ouch.
    -How hurt is Miranda exactly? He hasn't played either of the Cleveland games and Margot was the choice to pinch-hit for Wallner. He had a back issue in July and when he returned got drilled in the head by a fastball. Perhaps it is some combination of those maladies, or perhaps a new issue has surfaced?

    What’s Next: Bailey Ober (12-7, 3.90 ERA) opposes Tanner Bibee (11-8, 3.60 ERA) in game three of the series. Ober has been pretty great outside of a couple of fluke outings and fluke innings, and dominated the Guardians at Target Field in August. Bibee has been no slouch himself, and is likely the de facto ace of the Guardian's staff. He has had plenty of success against the Twins, with a 2.73 ERA over six starts in his career.

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    Bullpen Usage Chart:

      FRI SAT SUN MON TUE TOT
    Sands 0 0 36 0 14 50
    Blewett 0 41 0 0 0 41
    Thielbar 0 27 0 13 0 40
    Durán 0 0 0 0 30 30
    Varland 0 29 0 0 0 29
    Jax 0 0 0 21 8 29
    Tonkin 28 0 0 0 0 28
    Henríquez 0 0 17 0 10 27
    Irvin 0 0 0 0 3 3

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    4 hours ago, Mark G said:

    The bullpen chart is making me a little nervous; Jax, Duran, and Sands look a little spent.  How much are they available today, if at all in come cases?  Ober needs to go pretty deep to give them a rest.  Or should I say Rocco needs to LET Ober go deep if he is going good.  

    Just more mis-management of the pen. Jax is probably out tonight, and Duran, after throwing 30 pitches last night, will at the least be very limited or not available tonight.

    29 minutes ago, Blyleven2011 said:

    It was a win,  stressful as it was  ....

    It was a good game until it wasn't  ...

    Pinch hitting for wallner who had both rbi's at the time again is a head scratcher , Margot pinch hits for wallner because wallner is lefthanded and pitcher is  lefthanded , Margot continues to go hitless as a pinch hitter,  0 for 29  , I guess the twins like to break records , last year it was breaking the strikeout record for a season  ....

    The twins , as the season winds down and wears down ( with injuries ) and barely in playoff  contention  need to analyze  the team for 2025 ...

    They need to make a TO DO LIST  for 2025 ...

    I'm sorry to say ( this roster is supposed to be major league caliber) but it seems like our players talent is being wasted , I emphasize that a player should never stop learning and coaches should never stop coaching  ...

    We have quality talent that just isn't performing up to our expectations  or I'm sure the players expectations  too ...

    the TO DO LIST  .  Teach these players the fundamentals of the game  , ( bunt , ( jeffers hits a scribbler down the third base line and reaches 1st base , yes an imitation of a bunt ) , steal bases , better base running , defense and a better approach at hitting for more consistency  at getting on base  , rbi's and runs do matter ..

    all the above referenced reflects that of the coaching   , it's time for a change on coaching but FO might blame this all on injuries  , if we have the talent  that will be a lame excuse  once again   , players have talent , take that talent and make it a better talent  , the players need to keep learning at this level and not be wasted on bad coaching  ...

    I know Rocco has the stats showing Margot isn't a viable option pinch hitting yet he keeps using him. He could have used Farmer to PH or even Vasky, but of course he goes with the rock headed move with Margot.

    1 hour ago, Whitey333 said:

    Nice win Twins.  Glad to see everyone now thinks we are going to the world series.  Amazing what one win will do.  Even though they have one of the worst won/lost records in baseball the past three weeks they will probably make the playoffs.  But the final weekend could be interesting to follow as the Twins play the Orioles, the Royals play the braves and Tigers play the White Sox.  Go Twins!!

    Haven't seen anyone say we're WS bound, but can't we be happy about a win? I mean, dang.

    1 hour ago, Whitey333 said:

    Nice win Twins.  Glad to see everyone now thinks we are going to the world series.  Amazing what one win will do.  Even though they have one of the worst won/lost records in baseball the past three weeks they will probably make the playoffs.  But the final weekend could be interesting to follow as the Twins play the Orioles, the Royals play the braves and Tigers play the White Sox.  Go Twins!!

    Haven't seen anyone say we're WS bound, but can't we be happy about a win? I mean, dang.

    1 hour ago, chinmusic said:

    In 1966, Phil Regan went 14-1 in relief for the Dodgers, and was nicknamed "the vulture", allegedly by Sandy Koufax.  Second coming of THE VULTURE. Just keep him away from that sausage...

    Bill Campbell, 1976. 17-5, with 20 saves.

    2 hours ago, jmlease1 said:

    A good win. Nice job by Matthews; it would be awesome if he's figuring some things out and forces hitters to adjust to him down the stretch rather than him needing to adjust more.

    Agreed. Great job by Matthews shutting down one of the best teams in baseball.

    The win kept us afloat for another day. Would be nice to string a couple together. I too would like to pass KC. But the playoffs hinge on Twins winning games, not hoping the other guys lose. White Sox may do to Detroit what Detroit did to the Twins the year the tigers were a shoo-in to break the '62 Mets record. So Tigers shouldn't view that last series as a slam dunk. O's-Twins finale should also be fun. Two teams that have struggled mightily for quite awhile. Somebody has to win!

    1 hour ago, Karbo said:

    I know Rocco has the stats showing Margot isn't a viable option pinch hitting yet he keeps using him. He could have used Farmer to PH or even Vasky, but of course he goes with the rock headed move with Margot.

    I think I can explain where Baldelli is coming from, while I don't agree with it.

    30 some PAs is a nothing sample size.  People come up with all sorts of dumb splits about hitters based on arbitrary splits with small sample sizes.  Player talent is necessarily measured in much bigger samples, hundreds, or preferably thousands of plate appearances.

    Where this breaks down somewhat is that is that pinch hitting isn't just an arbitrary split.  There is good reason to believe that pinch hit at bats are not exactly the same as any other at bat.  Conventional wisdom is that coming off the bench cold is hard, and The Book says that pinch hitting has an average penalty of around .024 wOBA, essentially negating your average platoon split.  It's a lot murkier trying to determine which guys are truly better at pinch hitting than others, but it's probably reasonable to believe that there are true differences in pinch hitting talent that are independent from overall talent.

    For Margot, I care more about his 100 career PH appearance more than his 34 appearances this year.  And it doesn't get that much better.  Prior to this season he had a .584 OPS in PH appearances, and that has dropped to .441 including his 0-fer this season.  100 is still not a very big sample, given 100 more PH appearances, I would easily bet the over on a .441 OPS. But it's big enough that I adjust my priors on Margot; I think his PH penalty is much larger than the average hitter's, I think it's probably large enough that his platoon split against lefties is not that relevant, even if it is a much larger sample.

    I suspect that Rocco is still weighing the platoon split and overall production more heavily, but I suspect that it's actually as much emotional and psychological as it is stats based.  We know that he likes to have his relievers get back into another game soon after a blow-up.  I think continuing to PH Margot is probably similar; he will give Margot every opportunity to work through it.

    Last night he PH Margot and brought in Farmer as a defensive replacement the next inning.  He easily could have PH Farmer and then did a defensive switch to bring in Margot.  This feels like the no-brainer move to me at this point, but I think Rocco is still thinking about his player's psyches.  It seems the players generally like him, and I think stuff like that probably contributes.

    I agree it just doesn't seem like a good analytic decision at this point, though.  I don't even think that saying Margot is 0 for 29 is good analytics, but taking everything into account, I don't see how Farmer couldn't be the better option in pretty much any situation.

    Tony Fiore, Twins 2002- 10 W, 3 L, 91 IP.  No saves.  ERA 3.16  FIP 4.76

    He finished 8th in ROY voting, at age 30.  The next year he pitched 36 innings, was sent to the minors and never returned, washing out in three other organizations before retiring.

    One of the great one-year wonders.

    Pulling Wallner for Margot was infuriating! Wallner has already shown this year he can hit lefties, plus he had two hits already. Margot has shown her sucks! 0-29 pinch hitting. For a manager who goes off of numbers so much it makes no sense that he refuses to change up. Plus, after pinch hitting, we were stuck with Margot in right field for the last three innings in a tight game. Dude is horrible on defense and losing Wallner arm late in the game is just dumb. Rocco is lucky we won, no thanks to him....

    40 minutes ago, 2wins87 said:

    I think I can explain where Baldelli is coming from, while I don't agree with it.

    30 some PAs is a nothing sample size.  People come up with all sorts of dumb splits about hitters based on arbitrary splits with small sample sizes.  Player talent is necessarily measured in much bigger samples, hundreds, or preferably thousands of plate appearances.

    Where this breaks down somewhat is that is that pinch hitting isn't just an arbitrary split.  There is good reason to believe that pinch hit at bats are not exactly the same as any other at bat.  Conventional wisdom is that coming off the bench cold is hard, and The Book says that pinch hitting has an average penalty of around .024 wOBA, essentially negating your average platoon split.  It's a lot murkier trying to determine which guys are truly better at pinch hitting than others, but it's probably reasonable to believe that there are true differences in pinch hitting talent that are independent from overall talent.

    For Margot, I care more about his 100 career PH appearance more than his 34 appearances this year.  And it doesn't get that much better.  Prior to this season he had a .584 OPS in PH appearances, and that has dropped to .441 including his 0-fer this season.  100 is still not a very big sample, given 100 more PH appearances, I would easily bet the over on a .441 OPS. But it's big enough that I adjust my priors on Margot; I think his PH penalty is much larger than the average hitter's, I think it's probably large enough that his platoon split against lefties is not that relevant, even if it is a much larger sample.

    I suspect that Rocco is still weighing the platoon split and overall production more heavily, but I suspect that it's actually as much emotional and psychological as it is stats based.  We know that he likes to have his relievers get back into another game soon after a blow-up.  I think continuing to PH Margot is probably similar; he will give Margot every opportunity to work through it.

    Last night he PH Margot and brought in Farmer as a defensive replacement the next inning.  He easily could have PH Farmer and then did a defensive switch to bring in Margot.  This feels like the no-brainer move to me at this point, but I think Rocco is still thinking about his player's psyches.  It seems the players generally like him, and I think stuff like that probably contributes.

    I agree it just doesn't seem like a good analytic decision at this point, though.  I don't even think that saying Margot is 0 for 29 is good analytics, but taking everything into account, I don't see how Farmer couldn't be the better option in pretty much any situation.

    I absolutely love this post. 

    Fair... Balanced, Sensible and Well Explained. 

     

    1 hour ago, 2wins87 said:

    I think I can explain where Baldelli is coming from, while I don't agree with it.

    30 some PAs is a nothing sample size.  People come up with all sorts of dumb splits about hitters based on arbitrary splits with small sample sizes.  Player talent is necessarily measured in much bigger samples, hundreds, or preferably thousands of plate appearances.

    Where this breaks down somewhat is that is that pinch hitting isn't just an arbitrary split.  There is good reason to believe that pinch hit at bats are not exactly the same as any other at bat.  Conventional wisdom is that coming off the bench cold is hard, and The Book says that pinch hitting has an average penalty of around .024 wOBA, essentially negating your average platoon split.  It's a lot murkier trying to determine which guys are truly better at pinch hitting than others, but it's probably reasonable to believe that there are true differences in pinch hitting talent that are independent from overall talent.

    For Margot, I care more about his 100 career PH appearance more than his 34 appearances this year.  And it doesn't get that much better.  Prior to this season he had a .584 OPS in PH appearances, and that has dropped to .441 including his 0-fer this season.  100 is still not a very big sample, given 100 more PH appearances, I would easily bet the over on a .441 OPS. But it's big enough that I adjust my priors on Margot; I think his PH penalty is much larger than the average hitter's, I think it's probably large enough that his platoon split against lefties is not that relevant, even if it is a much larger sample.

    I suspect that Rocco is still weighing the platoon split and overall production more heavily, but I suspect that it's actually as much emotional and psychological as it is stats based.  We know that he likes to have his relievers get back into another game soon after a blow-up.  I think continuing to PH Margot is probably similar; he will give Margot every opportunity to work through it.

    Last night he PH Margot and brought in Farmer as a defensive replacement the next inning.  He easily could have PH Farmer and then did a defensive switch to bring in Margot.  This feels like the no-brainer move to me at this point, but I think Rocco is still thinking about his player's psyches.  It seems the players generally like him, and I think stuff like that probably contributes.

    I agree it just doesn't seem like a good analytic decision at this point, though.  I don't even think that saying Margot is 0 for 29 is good analytics, but taking everything into account, I don't see how Farmer couldn't be the better option in pretty much any situation.

    The pinch hit also meant Margot predictably hitting against a RH reliever later in the game, as it often does.

     

    Nice win,but why did Lee and Julien waste at bats against Morgan.It was first at bats for them and 1 pitch and done.And of course Rocco sending Margot up to hit into a DP was the norm for him.He has had 6 years to learn how to become a manager with nothing learned.Managers have to have a feel for each and every game.At the time Wallner was the only one who seemed to be putting good at bats together.

    4 minutes ago, 2wins87 said:

    Thanks, obviously it's something that's been on my mind a bit lately

    It's been on my mind since the young lefties showed up last year and the pinch hitting started immediately afterwards.  

    The only thing that makes sense in my mind is that the Twins front office is playing the long game in regards to sample size. 

    30 scattered pinch hits is a small sample size... almost meaningless. So is 22 scattered AB's vs left handed pitchers by Larnach... almost meaningless. 

    By playing the long game... it's like they are saying. Margot is supposed to be the better option here so we are going to keep doing it until the numbers come around and show it.

    The problem with Margot is... the buzzer on the long game has gone off. We spent an entire year waiting for it and it didn't happen. He will go down as a minus in the pinch hit department. 

    One last point... Every major league team has an analytics department. Every team has spreadsheets of information gathered from past results in an attempt to improve the odds of positive future results. Basically every team is looking at the same stuff. 

    The differences between each organization is what data points are the most important. How do they weight each piece of data. The Twins obviously place more importance on the left/right splits with a heavy emphasis on keeping the left handed hitter away from left handed pitching. The left/right split seems to trump all other pieces of data because they are annoyingly consistent in its implementation. 

    4 hours ago, 2wins87 said:

    I think I can explain where Baldelli is coming from, while I don't agree with it.

    30 some PAs is a nothing sample size.  People come up with all sorts of dumb splits about hitters based on arbitrary splits with small sample sizes.  Player talent is necessarily measured in much bigger samples, hundreds, or preferably thousands of plate appearances.

    Where this breaks down somewhat is that is that pinch hitting isn't just an arbitrary split.  There is good reason to believe that pinch hit at bats are not exactly the same as any other at bat.  Conventional wisdom is that coming off the bench cold is hard, and The Book says that pinch hitting has an average penalty of around .024 wOBA, essentially negating your average platoon split.  It's a lot murkier trying to determine which guys are truly better at pinch hitting than others, but it's probably reasonable to believe that there are true differences in pinch hitting talent that are independent from overall talent.

    For Margot, I care more about his 100 career PH appearance more than his 34 appearances this year.  And it doesn't get that much better.  Prior to this season he had a .584 OPS in PH appearances, and that has dropped to .441 including his 0-fer this season.  100 is still not a very big sample, given 100 more PH appearances, I would easily bet the over on a .441 OPS. But it's big enough that I adjust my priors on Margot; I think his PH penalty is much larger than the average hitter's, I think it's probably large enough that his platoon split against lefties is not that relevant, even if it is a much larger sample.

    I suspect that Rocco is still weighing the platoon split and overall production more heavily, but I suspect that it's actually as much emotional and psychological as it is stats based.  We know that he likes to have his relievers get back into another game soon after a blow-up.  I think continuing to PH Margot is probably similar; he will give Margot every opportunity to work through it.

    Last night he PH Margot and brought in Farmer as a defensive replacement the next inning.  He easily could have PH Farmer and then did a defensive switch to bring in Margot.  This feels like the no-brainer move to me at this point, but I think Rocco is still thinking about his player's psyches.  It seems the players generally like him, and I think stuff like that probably contributes.

    I agree it just doesn't seem like a good analytic decision at this point, though.  I don't even think that saying Margot is 0 for 29 is good analytics, but taking everything into account, I don't see how Farmer couldn't be the better option in pretty much any situation.

    Whether I agree or not....I appreciate your effort here to be a fair and reasonable person.  Kudos sir, appreciate the insights!

    The Twins win 4-1 and a bench player near the end of his Twins career dominates the conversation.

    How about Zebby Matthews holding the Guardians to one run? Did anyone else hear on the broadcast that Matthews was throwing a change up he learned after reaching the majors? I wasn’t sure if the change up itself was new or if it was a new type of change up for him. I started listening and finished watching but I believe this came from the radio team. Turns out he needed something to help him get major league left handed hitters out. In the first inning he got outs on his change up from Gimenez and Ramirez. He also threw several for balls. Nice adjustment but I have to wonder why he isn’t learning this pitch in the minors even if he doesn’t need it to get minor league left handed hitters out.

    22 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

    It's also possible that you don't understand Levi's bit. 

    That is a possibility. Perhaps you could explain the bit. Then again....maybe you don't understand my bit. And quite frankly, I don't understand my bit.

    53 minutes ago, Fezig said:

    That is a possibility. Perhaps you could explain the bit. Then again....maybe you don't understand my bit. And quite frankly, I don't understand my bit.

    Levi has been blaming Rocco for everything... things like toast landing on the peanut and jelly side when it hits the floor after dropped. He's blaming Rocco when they win. 

    I believe he is making a statement that the forums of this website have been trampled by posters who think Rocco is to blame for nearly everything.  

     

    23 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

    Levi has been blaming Rocco for everything... things like toast landing on the peanut and jelly side when it hits the floor after dropped. He's blaming Rocco when they win. 

    I believe he is making a statement that the forums of this website have been trampled by posters who think Rocco is to blame for nearly everything.  

     

    I think I've found who Levi is. 

    https://x.com/Cle_Brendan52/status/1836881407114637480




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