Guardians 3, Twins 2: Leaking Bullpen and Quiet Offense Costs Twins

Forgot to mention the truly egregious ball/strike calls by the umpire.

Love to see the umpire scorecard from last night.  Baseball has a real problem on its hands when the umpire is so far off.

As Baldelli said:  Every meaningful call over the last three innings went against the Twins.  Every one.

Our bats need to wake up! Our pitching is easily top 10. Hitting … not so good.

F—k Cleveland umpires won game for them last night!!! When will mlb get rid of umpires and go AI/robotic??? This needs to happen. Cost twins last night. Definitely need to win next 2 as this was 2 game swing in standings!!! Must must must win this series!!!!

It's so disgusting to watch major league umpires calling balls and strikes.  But having said that it's just as disgusting, maybe more so, to have the Twins announcers, manager, and fans continually blame the losses on bad luck, bad bounces, and bad umpiring.  Yes I agree it was it's normally bad self.  But only getting 4 hits a game isn't going to cut it.  What's frustrating is that MLB does nothing to improve home plate umpiring.  They should at least look into it.  

I didn’t see the game but it’s too bad SWR had a good game go to waste. 

35 minutes ago, Karbo said:

My friend down in St. Pete Had to call me this morning just to ask if I still love Okert. He said he was so glad they found someone to dump him on. He told me at the time of the trade how happy he was to see him go. Now I'm starting to see why.

So this club gets four hits and scores two whole runs, but Okert is the goat?

Twins defense has been incredibly sloppy the past week or so. Hopefully getting Buxton back in CF will help, but Rocco needs to start holding these players accountable for all these little league looking mistakes. Sure would help if the offense woke back up. We cannot afford a second straight sweep especially against the team we're trying to beat our for the central...

This site has been glitchy for me the last couple of days and I'm unable to successfully upload a screenshot of the umpire scorecard from yesterday. The score was +1.55 runs for Cleveland. That combined with some more defensive mishaps and a paltry 2 runs scored were the recipe for another loss.

Watching the game I didn't like pulling SWR there. If the young man keeps performing well hopefully he will earn more trust. 

Speaking of trust, how has Okert acquired any?

1 hour ago, VivaBomboRivera! said:

So this club gets four hits and scores two whole runs, but Okert is the goat?

Um........yeah.......I'm OK with that.  😏

3 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Because the guy who, himself, cost the twins at least 5 runs in the Yankees series with a litany of mental mistakes and misplays, hasn’t missed an inning of play since. He should have been pulled right after the inning where he forgot how many outs there were. There are physical mistakes and then there is playing with your head up your behind. 

Baldelli did publicly address Castro's run of snafus. He said that while the situation had been discussed, Willi had earned the benefit of the doubt with his contributions since coming here. 

Willi acknowledged his poor play as well. 

10 minutes ago, Mark G said:

Um........yeah.......I'm OK with that.  😏

OK...  Three different pitchers each give up an earned run. Why is one pitcher at greater fault than the others?

37 minutes ago, VivaBomboRivera! said:

OK...  Three different pitchers each give up an earned run. Why is one pitcher at greater fault than the others?

Read USA Chief......kind of says what I was thinking.  

3 minutes ago, ashbury said:

It's not ideal that Duran gave up the run, but not even the most dominant reliever carries an ERA of 0.00 through an entire season.  Bottom line, the pitching and defense held the other team to 3 runs; so an offense with aspirations toward making some noise in the post-season ought to win such a game, way more often than not. 

Don't blame a "bullpen leak", don't blame the umpires. Don't blame SWR's slightly short but very good outing, nor Steven Okert; between the two of them, they achieved 2 runs in 6 innings, otherwise a Quality Start except it took two of the to do it, which is then turned over to the bullpen in normal circumstances.

Blame the offense.  Except for that blip during the winning streak against weaker overall opposition, they've been the problem this season.  Every team tries to whomp mistake pitches, and every team tends to feast on a starter or a member of a bullpen who is having a bad day.  But the good teams are able to switch gears and find-a-way against the typically good major league pitcher having a typically good outing.

Agree with all this except during the streak the Twins jumped all over some good starters from the Mariners and Red Sox.

4 runs in 4 days - no need to blame starters or bullpen for anything. 

Has any team that's won 12 straight NOT made the baseball playoffs? I'm sure it's happened, and if it hasn't, it just might this year. 

When this team falls into offensive slumps, they get REALLY cold. Unwatchable baseball this week. When's Royce back? This team has zero fire and is relying on guys who are running on fumes. 

I can't upload the screen shot, but to me Correa's positioning seemed within the rules, unless the camera angle behind home plate was slightly off. The line goes directly across second base, corner to corner, and Correa's feet appear to be slightly to the SS side of the base. His body is leaning to his glove side, but, to me, his feet, and thus his positioning, appear legal.

This is a situation where several different people's judgment came into play; the fielder, the umpiring crew, the opposing manager and, upon appeal, the umpire in the review office. The HP umpire, looking directly at Correa did not call it. I know his focus is on the P, but pre-pitch he can see fielder positioning. The 2B umpire, standing six feet from Correa did not call it. The opposing manager, from the 3B dugout, at field level, makes a challenge and the play is reversed (good for him).

MLB has dropped the ball on this rule. They need to take the judgment calls out of this and paint a stripe behind second base before this decides a more important game.