Jayce Tingler Poached By San Francisco Giants

Not sorry to see him go  , hope him sucess but wasn't to impressed with him as our bench coach ...

Now we need more replacements,  it will make my day when I hear Watkins has been let go ...

Yawn, yawn, yawn.  Who cares?  Probably the biggest move the Twins make this off season.  

1 hour ago, chpettit19 said:

Tingler, Rowson, Hefner, Popkins, Alston, Swanson, Day. I'm sure there's quite a few more. Twins coaches poached or immediately hired by other teams after being let go by the Twins. 

I don't think the coaches are the problem. Or at least the rest of the league doesn't think so. Shoot, Rocco was interviewing for at least 1 other manager position immediately after being fired. The Twins lack talent. It's never been the coaches, it's been the players. Or so it seems pretty obvious the league is telling us by constantly poaching or immediately hiring the Twins coaches.

I can concede that the coaches may not be the primary problem.  But the Twins org has an unfortunate habit of giving up on players that go on to perform very well elsewhere.

Somehow, nobody in the org saw value in Ronny Henriquez last winter.  A 24yo hard throwing reliever, and the Twins just cut him to make room for....Michael Tonkin.  Henriquez was outstanding for Miami this year, far better than any year Tonkin has ever had in his long career.  That's on the coaches and/or GM.

Somehow, nobody in the org saw much value in Yenier Cano.  Similar story, not successful for the Twins in a brief trial, but very good for Baltimore in '23 and '24.

Plenty of other examples exist.  Meanwhile, the prospects that the Twins do hang onto tend to underperform expectations.  It makes one wonder how they will do if/when they get away from Minnesota.  There is either a talent identification problem, or a player development problem.  Coaches and management bear some responsibility for the results.

58 minutes ago, Road trip said:

I can concede that the coaches may not be the primary problem.  But the Twins org has an unfortunate habit of giving up on players that go on to perform very well elsewhere.

Somehow, nobody in the org saw value in Ronny Henriquez last winter.  A 24yo hard throwing reliever, and the Twins just cut him to make room for....Michael Tonkin.  Henriquez was outstanding for Miami this year, far better than any year Tonkin has ever had in his long career.  That's on the coaches and/or GM.

Somehow, nobody in the org saw much value in Yenier Cano.  Similar story, not successful for the Twins in a brief trial, but very good for Baltimore in '23 and '24.

Plenty of other examples exist.  Meanwhile, the prospects that the Twins do hang onto tend to underperform expectations.  It makes one wonder how they will do if/when they get away from Minnesota.  There is either a talent identification problem, or a player development problem.  Coaches and management bear some responsibility for the results.

Im waiting to see what larnach would do  with another organization  , he's right on the cusp of being a better than average hitter  , can some other organization with a fresh change of scenery and a  different voice help larnach at least be a 25 homer a year player  with a 250 average   ...

No idea if he can be a better defensive outfielder  , he's slow but does field better than others ....

How about Rowson as the bench coach?

So even the benches need coaches now, eh? Don't get up, I'll just let myself out the back door. 🙃

On 11/6/2025 at 9:26 AM, chpettit19 said:

Tingler, Rowson, Hefner, Popkins, Alston, Swanson, Day. I'm sure there's quite a few more. Twins coaches poached or immediately hired by other teams after being let go by the Twins. 

I don't think the coaches are the problem. Or at least the rest of the league doesn't think so. Shoot, Rocco was interviewing for at least 1 other manager position immediately after being fired. The Twins lack talent. It's never been the coaches, it's been the players. Or so it seems pretty obvious the league is telling us by constantly poaching or immediately hiring the Twins coaches.

Many teams get their coaches hired by other teams.  Every coach is looking for better opportunities, perceived or real.  

1 hour ago, chpettit19 said:

Sure, but the idea that the coaches are all incompetent fools who have been holding the Twins players back because they're not good at their jobs sure doesn't seem to be supported by the fact that many other teams want our coaches. If they were so obviously the reason the Twins struggled, why would other teams want them?

Many posters around here have been blaming the hitting coaches, pitching coaches, minor league coaches, and any other coach they could think of for the struggles of Twins players. There's posts on this very thread about Tingler not being good and being no real loss. If these stances are true, why would other teams continue to take our coaches? Why would the Giants have hired Tingler for the same job he had here if he was incompetent? Isn't the more likely answer that the Twins coaches aren't incompetent and the expectation that they can turn players into more than their physical capabilities will allow really the problem? 

100%. Spot on. Truth. Have the Twins been great at developing players?  Nope. But here is the biggest reason: establishing yourself as a bona fide big leaguer is really hard and more players are going to fail than succeed regardless of coaching. This phenomenon is playing out now with Kaelen Culpepper. Some people are penciling him in to be the starting SS starting next summer. I hope he turns into the next big star but he has a long way to go still. If he doesn’t make it we will see a bunch of fans wondering what went wrong and who is to blame. 

12 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

Sure, but the idea that the coaches are all incompetent fools who have been holding the Twins players back because they're not good at their jobs sure doesn't seem to be supported by the fact that many other teams want our coaches. If they were so obviously the reason the Twins struggled, why would other teams want them?

Many posters around here have been blaming the hitting coaches, pitching coaches, minor league coaches, and any other coach they could think of for the struggles of Twins players. There's posts on this very thread about Tingler not being good and being no real loss. If these stances are true, why would other teams continue to take our coaches? Why would the Giants have hired Tingler for the same job he had here if he was incompetent? Isn't the more likely answer that the Twins coaches aren't incompetent and the expectation that they can turn players into more than their physical capabilities will allow is really the problem? 

Not sure why you would think that I am saying that the coaches have been holding the Twins back.  I am merely pointing out that all teams poach other team's coaches.  It's part of the game. Nobody can say with any certainty what is needed for the Twins to be more successful.  Now don't let that get out or I am going to have to hear from dozens of folks on here who are certain that THEY can answer that question with 100% absolute certainty.  

I just think Tingler saw the writing on the wall.

1.A new Manager will want his own hand selected bench coach. 

2.The Twins are going in a direction that he doesn't want to be a part of. 

5 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

Oh, I didn't mean you were saying that I meant just posters in general. I don't have opinions on any of the hires or fires they make beyond generally not blaming them for the results on the field. The players they've been given are flawed players. The coaches couldn't make me into a major leaguer because I don't have the physical skills. Even major leaguers have a lack of skill in some area or another (other than Trout types).

I don't know if Shelton will be good. I don't know if LaTroy will be good. None of us do. Any opinions on them are based on pure and utter conjecture with no real way of knowing. I fully accept that every team has coaches poached or be hired after they're fired. I'm not suggesting the Twins are special in that way. Simply that it flies in the face of reason for posters so suggest the Twins staff is incompetent when they're being constantly hired by other teams. The FO and players are to blame for the Twins struggles. And the Pohlads, but we don't need to go down that road again around here.

Everyone wants to blame the Pohlads.  It's easy to do.  Low hanging fruit.  Many, if most, of those folks don't remember before the Pohlads.  We like to whine about a year or two of no post-season.  Try SIXTEEN such years.  Two titles in the first seven years of owning the team.  I said the day the won the second one that I could die a happy Twins fan. I still can.