gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 2013 Minor League Player Of The Year: Byron Buxton - BaseballAmerica.com They also listed in future grades and compared them to Trout:Hit 70 70 Power 60 60 Run 80 80 Arm 70 50 Field 70 70 Overall 70 70 The first numbers are his, the second are Trouts'.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Other than his arm, they think Buxton will be very similar... Nice to see.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Unless it was posted backwards, they are actually giving the edge in arm to Buxton.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 From Ben Badler- "best minor leaguer I've ever seen" and "the comparisons of Byron Buxton to Trout at the same age are legitimate." Also, from JJ Cooper- "we always take age, league context, and prospect status into consideration. If not, Chris Colabello has this year's best case."
stringer bell Verified Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 When I was in Cedar Rapids to watch the Kernels, I sat next to a scout for the Mets. I didn't get his name, but I asked him if there was too much hype for BB. He said "not enough" and said that while reports for him were great when he signed, he was far better less than a year later. It is early, but he could be the best ever to wear a Twins uni.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I'm sure the chat at 4pm will be loaded with juicy morsels.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I kind of wish we could invoke some kind of media and fan injunction to stop any talk of Buxton until he actually plays a MLB game. As a fan of Minnesota sports, I've been conditioned to believe hype for my teams leads to utter disappointment and fate is going to come along at any moment and kick our would-be star square in the ding dong. Please restore my faith and become what these karma-tempting prognosticators promise you will be Byron!
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I kind of wish we could invoke some kind of media and fan injunction to stop any talk of Buxton until he actually plays a MLB game. As a fan of Minnesota sports, I've been conditioned to believe hype for my teams leads to utter disappointment and fate is going to come along at any moment and kick our would-be star square in the ding dong. Please restore my faith and become what these karma-tempting prognosticators promise you will be Byron! Fate would have to first catch up to Buxton, which might be impossible.
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I was a little surprised to see that Buxton will be the 4th BA player of the year to play for the Twins since 2000. The others: Jon RauchJoe MauerDelmon Young
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2013 Author Posted September 11, 2013 The grades listed for Trout were his projected future grades then. BA noted that his hit tool would now be an 80 and his power a 70.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Good for him, he has sure earned it.
Badsmerf Verified Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I wonder if Buxton has filed a restraining order against Verve yet....
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Unless it was posted backwards, they are actually giving the edge in arm to Buxton. I never said otherwise.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 There has only been two players to be named baseballamerica's high school player of the year and milb player of the year. Buxton and some catcher named Mauer.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Here is the transcript from BA's chat. Lots of great stuff on Buxton and Sano. Well worth reading through. BaseballAmerica.com: Chat Prospects
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 We hadn't seen a rookie like Trout, when it comes to all around game, in generations...and this year he's even better offensively. As hopeful as I am that Buxton ends up as good or better, I wish they'd stop these kind of comparisons.
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I was a little surprised to see that Buxton will be the 4th BA player of the year to play for the Twins since 2000. The others: Jon RauchJoe MauerDelmon Young Well, if top prospects are a 50/50 proposition, we're looking good!
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 We hadn't seen a rookie like Trout, when it comes to all around game, in generations...and this year he's even better offensively. As hopeful as I am that Buxton ends up as good or better, I wish they'd stop these kind of comparisons. Me too but it happens in every sport, anytime a gifted athlete comes along he's almost immediately annointed as the next greatest player ever, before ever even playing a pro game. Media hype sells.
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 We got the table setter, and the clean-up guy. Now we need the #1 stud. Hoping Stewart can be seen as that guy this time next season.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 A year or two ago BA started to put risk rating on their prospects. The prospect gets a ceiling rating (20-80 on the scouting scale) and a chance to reach that ceiling rating (low/medium/high). Today in the chat Buxton got a 75 medium (no prospect has gotten 80). The fact he got 75 is special on its own but getting a medium for a 19 year old in A ball is nuts. While I agree no prospect should be compared to Trout after what he did last year it is impossible not to get excited about this kid.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Every time I look at Trout's numbers, I do a Patrick Stewart quadruple take. If Buxton is anywhere close to that good, we are in for fun times.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 There has only been two players to be named baseballamerica's high school player of the year and milb player of the year. Buxton and some catcher named Mauer. Which means there is only one who has been named BA's high school POY, MiLB POY and MLB MVP. Let's make it two.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Which means there is only one who has been named BA's high school POY, MiLB POY and MLB MVP. Let's make it two. I like the way you think!
Jim Crikket Provisional Member Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Of course, before we get too excited about Buck inevitably leading the Twins to the Promised Land, a glance at where the Trout-led Angels are in the standings might be in order.
maxisagod Verified Member Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Of course, before we get too excited about Buck inevitably leading the Twins to the Promised Land, a glance at where the Trout-led Angels are in the standings might be in order. Booo! SD Buhr back me up here, Jim Crikket is being a downer again.
iastfan112 Verified Member Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Of course, before we get too excited about Buck inevitably leading the Twins to the Promised Land, a glance at where the Trout-led Angels are in the standings might be in order. Most of the blame there can be assigned to the way underperforming, very expensive free agents they've signed.
CGNikolic Provisional Member Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 In terms of team production, there is no reason to compare Trout and Buxton. Baseball is a team sport, so one great player will not lead to the promised land. The Angels screwed up by taking flyers on expensive, old free agents. The Twins don't even sign free agents! But comparing them on an individual level is accurate, and if Buxton can do what Trout has done, or close, along with the Twins providing the help around him that any player requires (which includes more prospects from our deep system finding success), we should be just fine.
Bob Sacamento Verified Member Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 You guys have no idea what you have in Buxton, as a Cubs fan I know teams tend to hype their own. But this is NOT hype on B.B., everything that is being said of the man-child is true. His plate approach, his contact, his speed, his arm, his coverage in CF, they are all well above average if not great. The only question I see is if he hits 20hrs or 30hrs... I sure do wish he was a Cub...
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 You guys have no idea what you have in Buxton, as a Cubs fan I know teams tend to hype their own. But this is NOT hype on B.B., everything that is being said of the man-child is true. His plate approach, his contact, his speed, his arm, his coverage in CF, they are all well above average if not great. The only question I see is if he hits 20hrs or 30hrs... I sure do wish he was a Cub... We have no idea what we have in Buxton? Really? Glad to see you agree with what we've known about him for quite some time. He's an absolute beast.
Bob Sacamento Verified Member Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 We have no idea what we have in Buxton? Really? In that many Twins fans think it's hype from their own organization. This kid is the real deal and will be the face of the franchise for the next 10+ years
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