Willingham on waivers

[Old Twins Cap]

Just in: Baltimore gives us Casilla and Valencia in exchange for JWill.

 

Burp.

[Chance]

I would be interested in a Willingham/Morneau for Bundy or Wright trade. I think it is possible based on Baltimores needs and Bundy having TJ. They are making a push this year and the two of them plus Willingham for another affordable year might be enough. I would throw in a PTBNL or cash (eat what's left of Morneau's contract) to make it happen.

[jay]

Burp.

 

How'd that taste? Kinda like old chicken?

[jay]

I would be interested in a Willingham/Morneau for Bundy or Wright trade. I think it is possible based on Baltimores needs and Bundy having TJ. They are making a push this year and the two of them plus Willingham for another affordable year might be enough. I would throw in a PTBNL or cash (eat what's left of Morneau's contract) to make it happen.

 

Chance, there is 0% chance of that.

 

But maybe if we throw in Adam Walker and Brian Duensing.......

[drjim]

And these are decent prospects? Pino was like the Twins 27th prospect in 2006. Where did he stand in 2009? He doesn't seem to have been ranked high enough in the Twins system to even be mentioned by BA that year.

 

The other thing these all had in common is that they were August waiver trades. Not sure I would trade Morneau and certainly not Willingham for that quality.

[diehardtwinsfan]

If the O's are trying to get both Willingham and Morneau then would Dylan Bundy be on the table? Considering he just had Tommy John surgery, still think he would be worth the risk if offered.

 

No

Yes, and Ryan would take it before they O's could rethink it.

[zenser]

The return for Willingham isn't going to be great. The O's also claimed Mike Morse. I am guessing that is a bargaining chip they will use.

 

Orioles Claim Mike Morse Off Waivers: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

[Mike Sixel]

No Bundy, but Gausman's on the table (I'm sure) - his awful ERA and all.

 

No chance, one bad year in his first year in teh majors doesn't make a guy go from top10 pitching prospect to available for a 33 year old OFer. Now, MAYBE, if you combine him with May or Berrios, MAYBE, you can get Gausmann, but I doubt it.

[Monkeypaws]

What do the Orioles have a surplus of on the farm?

[claryad]

Wasn't the deadline at noon?

[Mike Sixel]

What do the Orioles have a surplus of on the farm?

 

Corn, or soy beans, I can't recall right now.

[gunnarthor]

Wasn't the deadline at noon?

 

Noon tomorrow

[gunnarthor]

What do the Orioles have a surplus of on the farm?

 

Pitching, actually. The problem for them is that the last few years they've brought up a lot of highly regarded pitching prospects who haven't done that well.

[jay]

Excellent move by the O's to also claim Morse. Both are struggling righty power hitters with marginal defense. Morse has the advantage (or disadvantage?) of not being under contract for next year.

 

If the O's do truly intend to acquire someone, they can basically play them off each other and take the lowest bid.

[Alex]

Excellent move by the O's to also claim Morse. Both are struggling righty power hitters with marginal defense. Morse has the advantage (or disadvantage?) of not being under contract for next year.

 

If the O's do truly intend to acquire someone, they can basically play them off each other and take the lowest bid.

 

Great insight. Makes me think they aren't really interested in the Hammer because of the extra year on the contract and he's the ruse.

[jay]

Makes me think they aren't really interested in the Hammer because of the extra year on the contract and he's the ruse.

 

I'd have to agree. Not sure why they wouldn't take Morse if all else is about equal.

[diehardtwinsfan]

that could backfire if both teams chose not to revoke them.

[John Bonnes]

It's also quite possible that the Orioles claimed him to block him from someone else who they're currently chasing.

[Chance]

Chance, there is 0% chance of that.

 

But maybe if we throw in Adam Walker and Brian Duensing.......

 

I would gladly throw in both. Anyone else they would like to add to the deal?

[Chance]

It's also quite possible that the Orioles claimed him to block him from someone else who they're currently chasing.

 

This is very possible they have been making a lot of claims (also rumored to have claimed Morales) but no trades. It's possible they are just being defensive and don't have an interest in any of these guys unless the seller is basically trying to unload them.

[DaveW]

Willingham+Deunsing+Wimmers+Pat Dean+Plouffe for Macahado Straight up.

[Chance]

I would gladly throw in both. Anyone else they would like to add to the deal?

 

I want to clarify. Besides Mauer, Perkins, Arcia, for the most part, anyone in our top 10 prospects, plus a hand full of others; I would be willing to throw in with both Willingham and Morneau.

[John Bonnes]

Willingham+Deunsing+Wimmers+Pat Dean+Plouffe for Macahado Straight up.

Don't forget to include Butera.

[jay]

Don't forget to include Butera.

 

And Casilla. Wait a sec...

[ericchri]

that could backfire if both teams chose not to revoke them.

 

That is what seems a bit puzzling. It's not likely to happen of course, but if both teams said "have 'em", it would suddenly look like an overplay by the Orioles.

[drjim]

Let's get real and at least add Baxendale and maybe Dinkelman.

[kab21]

I think you just keep Willingham, possibly part ways with Morneau and reduce Doumit's playing time. He's the one guy that is a legit middle of the order bat that can allow Arcia and later on Sano to bat lower in the lineup and take some pressure off of them. Just because the Twins are rebuilding doesn't mean they should have 8 young players and Mauer in the lineup.

 

At this point I might bring back Morneau as well since Parmelee isn't hitting anywhere this year. He isn't having a great year but at least he's an actual MLB hitter. Put Mauer at 1B against lefties and Doumit behind the plate those days.

[Alex]

For anyone that thinks there's actually a rational baseball reason for signing Justin Morneau, you should read this piece from a fan of another team: The Problem With Justin Morneau - The Triangle Blog - Grantland

[Thrylos]

At this point, just getting rid of Willingham (letting the Orioles take him for nothing) is a win for the Twins, since a. Arcia/Parmelee will be unblocked, b. give some young players more playing time in 2013 and c. the Twins will save $9M that they can put towards a real starting pitcher for 2014.

 

I cannot see any negatives about letting him go at this point. The past is past and Ryan should had traded him last off-season and it was a mistake he did not. I hope that he does not make the same mistake twice, but it is Ryan we're talking about...

[stringer bell]

Next year Willingham figures to bounce back. He will be in his walk year and presumably healthy. If he's hitting between Arcia and Mauer, he could see a lot of good pitches to hit.