Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Arcia and someone else promotedLikely Albers. Not a bad move at all. Diamond has been horrible and Albers deserves the promotion
Parker Hageman Site Manager Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Following the latest loss to the Kansas City Royals, the Twins send down two struggling players in pitcher Scott Diamond and center fielder Aaron Hicks. Oswaldo Arcia, who has been hitting .375/.490/.725 with four home runs in his last 49 plate appearances since being demoted in early July, will be recalled. The second player is unknown but odds are the Twins will tap left-handed pitcher Andrew Albers. Albers is 11-5 with a tidy 2.86 ERA and a 116/32 K/BB ratio. While Albers has earned the opportunity, his 132.1 innings he has pitched exceeds his previous high by 28.1 innings. It will be interesting to see how the 27 year old holds up.
blairpaul715 Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Didn't Albers just pitch? Wouldn't they bring up someone else till it is his turn in the rotation, pitcher or postion player, just a thought. They always seem to be clamoring that the relief pitchers are putting in to many innings.
Mr. Ed Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 The deck chairs continue to be shuffled in MN. GM had an opportunity to start making changes. The changes should now start in the front office. Ryan talks tough how it's his fault, not Gardy's, for this mess. Well, if he created the mess, step aside, let someone else clean it up. This is rudderless ship going nowhere. Isn't 90 losses this many times enough to warrant change?
Thegrin Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Maybe they bring back Walters to pitch one game.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Both good moves. Btw, can we give up on the switch hitting yet?
jun Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 It should have happened earlier though.
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Didn't Albers just pitch? Wouldn't they bring up someone else till it is his turn in the rotation, pitcher or postion player, just a thought. They always seem to be clamoring that the relief pitchers are putting in to many innings.Diamond just pitched. So it shouldn't be a problem. I hope Hicks re-gains some confidence down there. His body language has looked pretty lousy for most of the summer, IMO.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Good to see Albers coming. I guess now Clete is the CF for the distant future and Arica plays LF. Unfortunately we still have 2 OFs.
StormJH1 Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Diamond just pitched. So it shouldn't be a problem. I hope Hicks re-gains some confidence down there. His body language has looked pretty lousy for most of the summer, IMO. Yeah, Hicks showed some flashes of what he could be, but he just isn't ready. Hopefully he wasn't too badly damaged coming to bat virtaully an entire season with a sub .200 batting average on the scoreboard. Suppose he could be back in September, but ideally, I wish he could stay down there until he's had extended success in AAA.
LaBombo Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Both good moves. Btw, can we give up on the switch hitting yet?Put another way, is it really still a certainty that the risk of at least experimenting with rightie-only would outweigh the reward? Either way, hope they tear up aaa and hold their own in the majors the second time around. Man, tough year for the FO to sell hope. The ace, the RoY candidate, and the opening day starter all in aaa on August 1st.
AlwaysinModeration Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Joe Benson sure picked the wrong time to have a lousy start to the season. He could have gotten a ton of ABs in the Twins OF this season, if he could have held on for just a couple of more weeks. How long will Hicks need to be down in order to get another year of service time?
buckninetyone Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 hicks and diamond optioned to biogenesis.
Oxtung Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Joe Benson sure picked the wrong time to have a lousy start to the season. He could have gotten a ton of ABs in the Twins OF this season, if he could have held on for just a couple of more weeks. How long will Hicks need to be down in order to get another year of service time? Twenty something days.
rickyriolo Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 i agree with sending both Hicks & Diamond down. They should have been sent down about a month ago.Now if only the Astros & white Sox can get on a little winning streak of their own we will be in good position for next year's draft
Highabove Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 In the past, a number of Players have benefited from a second trip to the minors.Hunter, Span, Revere, Hawkins, Morneau among others.
bl Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Man, tough year for the FO to sell hope. The ace, the RoY candidate, and the opening day starter all in aaa on August 1st. Eeeeesh.
AlwaysinModeration Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I agree that Albers seems to have earned a chance, but I'm wondering if, according to the Twins FO logic, Hendriks has earned another shot? (Which I would like to see.) On a related note, while I am optimistic about the future with several stellar prospects coming up, the recent history of lousy handling of numerous debuts (Arcia, Hicks, Dozier, Parmelee, Hendriks), maybe I should have more pessimism.
Kwak Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 hicks and diamond optioned to biogenesis. Calling Dr. Rudy Wells--stat!
LaBombo Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Eeeeesh.There are plenty of reasons to be excited and optimistic about being a Twins fan. The problem is that most of those reasons are not on the major league roster right now. How many days until Deduno pitches again?
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Surely Albers will be tabbed, but the rotation spot doesn't come due for five days. Last time they wasted a spot with Gibson doing nothing for four days between starts, I'm guessing Tonkin gets called up until the Diamnod/Albers start.
Kwak Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I hope Rochester can continue to win.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Well, we have a 40-man spot open because of Butera. How many days does Hicks have to stay down to become a Super 2, or whatever. Hopefully Diamond will get his act together so he can return to the rotation and not become another Brian Duensing.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2013 Author Posted August 1, 2013 I'm guessing Tonkin gets called up until the Diamnod/Albers start. Or Hernandez if they need someone to go longer out of the pen
Supfin99 Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 The deck chairs continue to be shuffled in MN. GM had an opportunity to start making changes. The changes should now start in the front office. Ryan talks tough how it's his fault, not Gardy's, for this mess. Well, if he created the mess, step aside, let someone else clean it up. This is rudderless ship going nowhere. Isn't 90 losses this many times enough to warrant change? This is why I almost afraid to read comments some times. What exactly should TR have done in the year and a half back on the job? I know spend 250 million on Greinke and Sanchez, because they would have for sure come here. With both of them we just might have been good enough to finish .500. This year is about seeing what some players like Florimon, Parmalee, Ploufe and Dozier can do. Also letting some rookies like Arcia and Hicks get their feet wet. Frankly I want the Twins to get a higher pick. Another top 3 means we are guaranteed to get either a stud pitcher or shortstop. This offseason we definitely do not need to waste money on overpriced free agent pitching. I say let Deduno, Diamond, Gibson, Hendricks, Albers, Meyer and May make 90% of the starts next year. Bring in Sano, Rosario and later Buxton to get their first taste. Then come 2015 you might be in a position to start thinking about moving forward. As a fan I believe you either contend for championships or you bottom out. Who wants to see a .500 team that is going nowhere.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Or Hernandez if they need someone to go longer out of the penI'm pretty sure he's rehabbing right now.
rickyriolo Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 trade Hicks & worley to the Phillies for ben revere
buckninetyone Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Or Hernandez if they need someone to go longer out of the pen i don't think hernandez will ever get out of the pen.
mcrow Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Should have been done a while ago really. I hope Albers works out but his whip in AAA this year might indicate that it's not going to go as well in the majors. Arcia is deserving of the call up and should be on the roster anyway. Edit: quick math in head didn't pan out, Alber's whip looks good.
Badsmerf Verified Member Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Finally. This should have been done a month ago. Hopefully Hicks can figure something out and Albers can have some success.
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