Twins 4, White Sox 7: Walker Jenkins' Can't Do It All In Debut

[chpettit19]

4 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

That garbage talk is someone being a sore loser.

“I am mad they lost so the Twins should violently attack the White Sox on the field”.

That sentiment sounds dumber when I restate it like that.

I think it looks pretty ridiculous to make those statements when the players themselves don't react in any way, shape, or form suggesting they thought it was dirty. Players tend to overreact far more than underreact in the heat of the moment. Especially if they think it was something that could've hurt them. Not a single player on the Twins team (that was shown on TV, at least) looked upset in the least. They were just trying to steal an out with the review by getting technical with Vargas not having reached the base.

[chinmusic]

Re Clemens : I'd call it a bat twirl as opposed to a flip; cool

Wow, Jeffers was really lifeless. Doesn't happen often. Hope he's ok.

[LastOnePicked]

10 hours ago, Nashvilletwin said:

The first four were actually very good.

We are yet to see ERod, but all the others seem like good bets for one reason or another.

Absolutely. I'm not knocking these guys. They were hyped for good reason.

The organization just didn't know how to build a complete team around them. And they still don't. 

[LastOnePicked]

1 hour ago, Saxophone Joe said:

Absolutely 💯 NEED to win the next two games to keep any semblance of hope alive. Lose today or tomorrow and that’s a wrap, folks. Roll credits. 

Gang, they are seven games under .500. SEVEN GAMES UNDER .500.

The fork is already stuck in. The wrap is already wrapped. I can read the credits, and it says "Produced by Tom Pohlad."

[Shaitan]

1 hour ago, Saxophone Joe said:

Yup. That’s what Billy Martin would’ve done. 

Wonder if a Twins pitcher will send a message to Vargas today, if the opportunity arises? 

Will they take a horse and buggy to the game too?

Culpepper's parents probably weren't even alive yet when Martin managed.

[Wedman13]

1 hour ago, chpettit19 said:

 

"Blew up?" "Send a message?" We're talking about the play where Vargas slid 3 feet short of KC and he gently, but slightly awkwardly, stepped over him after his throw? My goodness, you guys would need to do a lot of "message sending" if that's all it takes. Shelton would've looked like a fool on the field going crazy over that, and Jeffers, Jenkins, Keaschall, pick your favorite Twins hitter, wearing 100 in the ribs would be awfully upset with any pitcher who caused it by throwing at Vargas.

And he slid towards the base, right?  You can just slide wherever you want?  Got it.

there are times a jolt is needed.  Rocco sucked but at least provided that.  But you enjoy your bland brand of leadership, I'll enjoy mine.

[Saxophone Joe]

32 minutes ago, LastOnePicked said:

Gang, they are seven games under .500. SEVEN GAMES UNDER .500.

The fork is already stuck in. The wrap is already wrapped. I can read the credits, and it says "Produced by Tom Pohlad."

I know I know. Just looking at it from a mathematical standpoint. I can squint and see an extremely narrow path 5.5 down. I can’t at 7.5 down. 

I’m in the bargaining stage of grieving the 2026 Twins.

[LastOnePicked]

3 minutes ago, Saxophone Joe said:

I’m in the bargaining stage of grieving the 2026 Twins. 

Carry on. That's a better stage anyways. I've been stuck in anger since February.

[Wedman13]

23 minutes ago, LastOnePicked said:

Carry on. That's a better stage anyways. I've been stuck in anger since February.

Denial here (not sure if that's a stage or not)

[Mike Sixel]

The stages of grieving are not actually real. 

[chpettit19]

1 hour ago, Wedman13 said:

And he slid towards the base, right?  You can just slide wherever you want?  Got it.

there are times a jolt is needed.  Rocco sucked but at least provided that.  But you enjoy your bland brand of leadership, I'll enjoy mine.

Yes, he did slide towards the base. The only reason he didn't reach it was because KC was so far in front of it and he was avoiding taking KC out and/or getting hit in the face with a baseball. 

This isn't worth arguing about. If you think the players would've been pumped up at watching their manager make a fool of himself while they all knew he was yelling about a clean play, cool. You do you. But I don't think the players are idiots or so easily manipulated.

[Matt Braun]

4 hours ago, MeleMouth said:

Meanwhile in Baltimore, many people are going, "That's the Kremer we knew! We're so glad the Twins talked themselves into being able to fix him!"

Well, his Twins ERA now sits at 4.39 and his career ERA is... 4.38. So he's right where he should be expected to be. 

[LastOnePicked]

34 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

The stages of grieving are not actually real. 

And here I thought you were a longtime Twins fan.

[Wedman13]

1 hour ago, chpettit19 said:

Yes, he did slide towards the base. The only reason he didn't reach it was because KC was so far in front of it and he was avoiding taking KC out and/or getting hit in the face with a baseball. 

This isn't worth arguing about. If you think the players would've been pumped up at watching their manager make a fool of himself while they all knew he was yelling about a clean play, cool. You do you. But I don't think the players are idiots or so easily manipulated.

Got it.  So a leader/managers job is to set a lineup then go watch with a beer in the clubhouse, not mentor and motivate.  Makes sense.

[chpettit19]

1 hour ago, Wedman13 said:

Got it.  So a leader/managers job is to set a lineup then go watch with a beer in the clubhouse, not mentor and motivate.  Makes sense.

This will be my last reply.

That is not what I said. What I said is the players are not idiots or so easily manipulated that the manager yelling for any old reason is going to get them pumped up. They didn't think it was dirty. If they did, KC, Clemens, Lee, Lewis, Kremer, anyone on the infield would've let Vargas know. But they didn't. Because it wasn't dirty.

The manager making a fool of himself while storming onto the field to yell about a clean play as if it was a dirty play would not make those full grown adult men go "Oh, my gosh! He really cares! He has our back! I really need to play so much harder now that I know he's willing to defend me when I don't need defending!" It'd make them say "Why are we wasting our time listening to you yell about a clean play like an idiot when we should just be playing ball? Go sit down."

[JD-TWINS]

15 hours ago, Parfigliano said:

C- Lackey

Clemmens will be gone.

Lackey isn’t Catching to start ‘27………’27 is “the future” he described.

Why would they let Clemens go???