Walters: "...the [Minnesota] Twins Have A Deal On The Table" In Sale Of Team

[Parfigliano]

1 hour ago, nicksaviking said:

Why would MLB help out the Pohlad's by facilitating this debt scam? Isn't this just going to encourage the Pirates and Marlins and Royals to ALSO pass off other business venture debts on to their MLB clubs LLCs, knowing that the other owners already gave the Pohlad's this farewell gift?

Good point.

[NotAboutWinning]

3 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Why would MLB help out the Pohlad's by facilitating this debt scam? Isn't this just going to encourage the Pirates and Marlins and Royals to ALSO pass off other business venture debts on to their MLB clubs LLCs, knowing that the other owners already gave the Pohlad's this farewell gift?

Maybe MLB is interested in becoming a stake holder in some Pohlad commercial real estate ventures? 🤔

[The Great Hambino]

3 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Why would MLB help out the Pohlad's by facilitating this debt scam? Isn't this just going to encourage the Pirates and Marlins and Royals to ALSO pass off other business venture debts on to their MLB clubs LLCs, knowing that the other owners already gave the Pohlad's this farewell gift?

Would doing so help maintain a higher sales price?  If so, I could see them doing that as that would only help other franchise valuations

[Richie the Rally Goat]

53 minutes ago, The Great Hambino said:

Would doing so help maintain a higher sales price?  If so, I could see them doing that as that would only help other franchise valuations

You nailed it. Why would a collection of baseball owners who have exemption from antitrust rules collectively take action to increase the value of one of the owner’s asset? It raises the value of their own assets too

[jctwins]

Bumping a thread here that hopefully stays focused on ownership's sale efforts.

Does a full out trade deadline sale improve the marketability of the team or hurt it? Payroll is a liability, but players are assets. 

Obviously better for discussion after we see the final results of deadline day in a couple hours.

[sampleSizeOfOne]

37 minutes ago, jctwins said:

Does a full out trade deadline sale improve the marketability of the team or hurt it?

Yes?

[jorgenswest]

If there is a perspective owner they must have approved of every trade today, 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

I see nothing funny about what is happening today. On its face it looks like subversion, or immaturity, if we are feeling charitable. Fans deserve long-form answers and stakeholders deserve remedies. 

[strumdatjag]

1 hour ago, jorgenswest said:

If there is a perspective owner they must have approved of every trade today, 

Any PROSPECTIVE owner is going to have a problem even with some PERSPECTIVE.  

[mnfireman]

49 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

I see nothing funny about what is happening today. On its face it looks like subversion, or immaturity, if we are feeling charitable. Fans deserve long-form answers and stakeholders deserve remedies. 

What happened today is exactly what teams in full rebuild mode do, the Twins always seem to do a soft re-set and the fan base bitches when it doesn't work, today was full re-set and will allow the new owners, if there are any, to build their team, their way

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

1 hour ago, mnfireman said:

What happened today is exactly what teams in full rebuild mode do, the Twins always seem to do a soft re-set and the fan base bitches when it doesn't work, today was full re-set and will allow the new owners, if there are any, to build their team, their way

The Twins traded away the team’s top three relief pitchers. All three were under team control, none were ‘rentals’. Each had settled into roles and the bullpen formed a cohesion around them.

It can take years to identify and test pitchers who can fill those late inning relief roles over the long term, and find success. If you don’t believe me, go back and look at some of the pitchers who have been brought in over the last several seasons.

Duran, Jax, and Varland were the nucleus of a relief corps that got the job done during the 2023 postseason, and could hopefully support a postseason run in the future. All three of them are gone now. 

No, trading away your top three relief pitchers, combined with all the other moves, is not a rebuild or ‘full re-set’ or whatever you want to call it.