Twins (Woods Richardson) vs Guardians (Cantillo): 9/19/24, 12:10pm

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

They got burned last night with Farmer being aligned incorrectly - so what happens today? This is just a bad baseball team. There's no other way around it. 

[Peter]

Let’s get runs and win this!!! Let’s go Twins!! 

[NYCTK]

2 minutes ago, OvertheHill said:

Amazing the things that can happen when batters PUT THE BALL IN PLAY. 

Gonna push back on this criticism. The Twins are actually in the top half of the league in K-rate in high leverage situations. The Guardians are better but it's marginal 22.6% for them vs 23.3% for the Twins. 

[OvertheHill]

Can’t fault Irvin really. 

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

7 minutes ago, thelanges5 said:

They were terrible in April and found a way out. Can’t we just try that again?

No because they don't have 13 games against the White Sox...

That winning streak was fool's gold against two awful teams in the Sox and Angels. 

[exeoud]

Irvin did his job that inning, Rocco should be charged that earned run. 2 routine grounders if not for the shifts.

[cheeseheadgophfan]

3 minutes ago, Yips Knoblauch said:

Correa is good enough to get a freaking out there regardless at 1st base…. Then that fly ball to Buxton there is an inning ended instead of a sac fly….. 

I guarantee Correa looks to go to 2nd base as well there......it's a freaking double play ball and Farmer is trotting from right field?  What the heck is with that positioning?  Is that on Rocoo, Farmer???? It's unreal.

[hitterscount]

15 minutes ago, mrmpls said:

Twins starting Pitching over all during this trainwreck has been okay,   Hitters- Manager and bullpen   not so

Agreed, you cannot blame the starters for the collapse of the last three to four weeks. 

[Hubie29]

OK!  Got'em right where we want 'em!

[Yips Knoblauch]

1 minute ago, mrmpls said:

Also on Farmer ,  where was he ??

Terrible shift….. but regardless you have to get an out. ALWAYS.

[Dave Borton]

Just now, exeoud said:

Irvin did his job that inning, Rocco should be charged that earned run. 2 routine grounders if not for the shifts.

All those positioning coming from dugout?

[thelanges5]

Just now, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

No because they don't have 13 games against the White Sox...

That winning streak was fool's gold against two awful teams in the Sox and Angels. 

I get that we were helped by the schedule, but we have just completely forgot how to play baseball in the last month.

[NYCTK]

3 minutes ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Ah, yes. There's the fearless leader in the dugout. Shades on. Head down. Rallying the troops.

 

Compare that to an actual team leader that's on the bench with injury...

 

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

1 minute ago, cheeseheadgophfan said:

I guarantee Correa looks to go to 2nd base as well there......it's a freaking double play ball and Farmer is trotting from right field?  What the heck is with that positioning?  Is that on Rocoo, Farmer.....unreal.

Farmer isn't making those decisions unilaterally. 

[Yips Knoblauch]

Just now, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Farmer isn't making those decisions unilaterally. 

Again…. Correa checks to 2nd and see’s no one there and goes to first for the out… basic baseball. Fly ball to Buxton ends the inning. Small mistakes killing this team.

[jaimedude]

Another terrible infield shift on a routine ground ball. Rocco's magic touch and bufoonery strikes again. 

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

This is another margins game. Unnecessary shift in the field costs you a run. 

[OvertheHill]

Just now, NYCTK said:

Gonna push back on this criticism. The Twins are actually in the top half of the league in K-rate in high leverage situations. The Guardians are better but it's marginal 22.6% for them vs 23.3% for the Twins. 

Maybe I’m just generally critical of how baseball is taught, coached and played these days with the obsession on HR distance, launch angle, etc as opposed to the much more entertaining (IMO) approach of moving up runners, stealing bases, spoiling pitches, etc. 

This brand of baseball is BORING, and at the end of the day this is entertainment. I’m not inclined to spend much money on entertainment that bores me. 

[Western SD Fan]

That’s been the saddest part about this team. They get out of a tough inning and don’t even let themselves breathe before they have to go back out on the field. And that’s where the defensive lapses come from. Put the damn ball in play for once!

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

Just now, Yips Knoblauch said:

Again…. Correa checks to 2nd and see’s no one there and goes to first for the out… basic baseball. Fly ball to Buxton ends the inning. Small mistakes killing this team.

We can thank Rocco for that.

[mrmpls]

Morny,  willi shouldnt even be there

[exeoud]

Just now, OvertheHill said:

Maybe I’m just generally critical of how baseball is taught, coached and played these days with the obsession on HR distance, launch angle, etc as opposed to the much more entertaining (IMO) approach of moving up runners, stealing bases, spoiling pitches, etc. 

This brand of baseball is BORING, and at the end of the day this is entertainment. I’m not inclined to spend much money on entertainment that bores me. 

Well in this game you have the 2 opposite ends of the spectrum for those approaches. And there's a reason one side is going to win the season series 10-3.

[Parfigliano]

3 minutes ago, NYCTK said:

Gonna push back on this criticism. The Twins are actually in the top half of the league in K-rate in high leverage situations. The Guardians are better but it's marginal 22.6% for them vs 23.3% for the Twins. 

I believe 12 of 19 outs today are Ks.  HR or bust is a dumb strategy for a non power hitting team like TC but its the strategy the suits have.

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

Look at this team's body language walking back to the dugout.

[insagt1]

Twins must start scoring runs. There is no way they win this game late against Cleveland unless they get a few runs. Which has been the impossible dream.

[NYCTK]

1 minute ago, OvertheHill said:

Maybe I’m just generally critical of how baseball is taught, coached and played these days with the obsession on HR distance, launch angle, etc as opposed to the much more entertaining (IMO) approach of moving up runners, stealing bases, spoiling pitches, etc. 

This brand of baseball is BORING, and at the end of the day this is entertainment. I’m not inclined to spend much money on entertainment that bores me. 

Eh, the tradeoff is players are hitting for a lot more power, which isn't boring. So, it's a tradeoff. Matter of opinion on which is more "exciting" I guess. 

[hitterscount]

4 minutes ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

No because they don't have 13 games against the White Sox...

That winning streak was fool's gold against two awful teams in the Sox and Angels. 

They did what they should/needed to do against those two teams … it’s just the other 28 teams they really have no answer for. It’s really fascinating how many different ways they can find to lose a game…. Ultimately it’s like they don’t care for their teammates 

[C-Gangster]

Twins are slumping so  bad right now If we want any shot at the playoffs or Winning in the playoffs we need to get our act together Now!

[TwinsCD]

3 hits today, 2 of them by guys who we've wanted off the roster for months.  PATHETIC

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

There is zero emotion in that dugout.