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The Cleveland Indians have traded outfielder Shin-Soo Choo to the Cincinnati Reds and acquired pitcher Trevor Bauer from the Arizona Diamondbacks in a three-team deal involving nine players.Center fielder Drew Stubbs was sent from Cincinnati to Cleveland as part of the trade announced Tuesday night.

In addition to Stubbs, the Indians received Bauer, the No. 3 pick in the 2011 draft, and right-handers Matt Albers and Bryan Shaw from the Diamondbacks.

Cleveland shipped Choo, infielder-outfielder Jason Donald and cash to the Reds, while sending left-handed reliever Tony Sipp and first baseman Lars Anderson to Arizona.

The Diamondbacks also received minor league shortstop Didi Gregorius from Cincinnati.

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Bauer? Um, he's a much better prospect than any the Twins got in the last two trades, from what I've read. Don't know anything about anyone but Choo in the deal though...

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If this trade doesn't mess with your head as far as player value... Nothing will... Can Gregorius really hang with Bauer and Choo for value.

 

I like this trade for Cleveland at first blush.

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The D Backs must've really not been hot on Bauer. Makes you wonder what the Twins could have nabbed him for. Really intriguing, this looks good for the Indians and Reds

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Read reports that Arizona got to be down on Bauer as the year went on last year. Tyler Skaags is their SP prospect that's pretty much untouchable.

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Amazing. Reds really didn't get much either. They lose a solid SS in Didi (and some people think he can be better than solid) and add Choo, a Boras free agent after the year, to play CF? (They also got Jason Donald + cash). They really needed a CFer. I wonder what kind of discussions they had with the Twins.

 

Cleveland really did well. It's possible that Bauer doesn't develop and he's a bit of hothead apparently, DBack blogs are mentioning that he didn't work well with his catcher, Montero, wouldn't listen to his coaches and was and ripping Obama on twitter. Still, nice gamble.

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Amazing. Reds really didn't get much either. They lose a solid SS in Didi (and some people think he can be better than solid) and add Choo, a Boras free agent after the year, to play CF? (They also got Jason Donald + cash). They really needed a CFer. I wonder what kind of discussions they had with the Twins.

 

Cleveland really did well. It's possible that Bauer doesn't develop and he's a bit of hothead apparently, DBack blogs are mentioning that he didn't work well with his catcher, Montero, wouldn't listen to his coaches and was and ripping Obama on twitter. Still, nice gamble.

The Reds recently moved their top prospect speedster Billy Hamilton from SS to CF. Looks likely they're going to call him up now. Doubt they'd have had interest in our CFers.

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Amazing. Reds really didn't get much either. They lose a solid SS in Didi (and some people think he can be better than solid) and add Choo, a Boras free agent after the year, to play CF? (They also got Jason Donald + cash). They really needed a CFer. I wonder what kind of discussions they had with the Twins.

 

Cleveland really did well. It's possible that Bauer doesn't develop and he's a bit of hothead apparently, DBack blogs are mentioning that he didn't work well with his catcher, Montero, wouldn't listen to his coaches and was and ripping Obama on twitter. Still, nice gamble.

The Reds recently moved their top prospect speedster Billy Hamilton from SS to CF. Looks likely they're going to call him up now. Doubt they'd have had interest in our CFers.

 

From the Reds and Indians perspective this trade makes sense, at least in some form(Choo in CF could be interesting). Just don't see how you can basically do a Bauer for Gregarious swap though. Even if Bauer's value is down some, Gregorius was a C+ prospect last year according to Sickels and he didn't exactly set the world on fire this year either.

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Amazing. Reds really didn't get much either. They lose a solid SS in Didi (and some people think he can be better than solid) and add Choo, a Boras free agent after the year, to play CF? (They also got Jason Donald + cash). They really needed a CFer. I wonder what kind of discussions they had with the Twins.

 

Cleveland really did well. It's possible that Bauer doesn't develop and he's a bit of hothead apparently, DBack blogs are mentioning that he didn't work well with his catcher, Montero, wouldn't listen to his coaches and was and ripping Obama on twitter. Still, nice gamble.

The Reds recently moved their top prospect speedster Billy Hamilton from SS to CF. Looks likely they're going to call him up now. Doubt they'd have had interest in our CFers.

 

From the Reds and Indians perspective this trade makes sense, at least in some form(Choo in CF could be interesting). Just don't see how you can basically do a Bauer for Gregarious swap though. Even if Bauer's value is down some, Gregorius was a C+ prospect last year according to Sickels and he didn't exactly set the world on fire this year either.

 

They definitely did sell low on Bauer, im sure they shopped his name around....and this possibly was the best deal for Bauer they could get.

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AZ received Tony Sipp LH RP and Lars Ansderson from CLEV as well as SS Gregorious from CIN. The trade wasn't quite that one-sided folks when the other two are included!

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AZ received Tony Sipp LH RP and Lars Ansderson from CLEV as well as SS Gregorious from CIN. The trade wasn't quite that one-sided folks when the other two are included!

 

The D-Backs also gave up two solid relievers for a redux LaPorta and a solid reliever. They got the wrong end.

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AZ received Tony Sipp LH RP and Lars Ansderson from CLEV as well as SS Gregorious from CIN. The trade wasn't quite that one-sided folks when the other two are included!

 

A loogy and a formerly big name prospect that has crashed back to earth do nothing to change the trade.

 

Read reports that Arizona got to be down on Bauer as the year went on last year. Tyler Skaags is their SP prospect that's pretty much untouchable.

 

Even if you are down on someone that doesn't mean that you trade them for a utility IF'er, a loogy and a disappointing 1B prospect. they basically got Dozier, Perkins and Parmelee.

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Does anyone remember the last time that the Twins were involved in a three team trade?

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If this trade doesn't mess with your head as far as player value... Nothing will... Can Gregorius really hang with Bauer and Choo for value.

 

I like this trade for Cleveland at first blush.

 

Yeah it's a dice throw, but Cleveland has likely done well.

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The Tribe get more for 1 year of Choo then the Twins did of 3 years of Span.

 

Or six years of Johan.

 

In fairness, Choo is a better player and they also traded Donald (who sorta sucks but still had potential) and Anderson (overhyped but probably a solid everyday 1B eventually) and a LOOGY. And the Reds got more than just Choo (and their big surrender was Didi). DBacks gave up the best prospect but got a solid shortstop prospect. Man, Cleveland did well on this trade. Every other fan base in baseball is complaining that their GM should've topped this.

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In fairness, Choo is a better player and they also traded Donald (who sorta sucks but still had potential) and Anderson (overhyped but probably a solid everyday 1B eventually) and a LOOGY. And the Reds got more than just Choo (and their big surrender was Didi). DBacks gave up the best prospect but got a solid shortstop prospect. Man, Cleveland did well on this trade. Every other fan base in baseball is complaining that their GM should've topped this.

 

Choo is a better player then who...Span? Cause he's not (unless he gets back to his monster 2009/2010 days) and even that's balanced out by the fact that he's got one year of team control while the Nats get 3 of Span at a below market cost. He's a brutal defender and a platoon player now.

 

Donald, Anderson (everyday 1B really?) and a loogy are marginal players at best.

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