Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2019 Posted April 17, 2019 It's more likely we will see an abundance of Ks from Mr. Sano. I still cannot reconcile all those strikeouts as being acceptable or a part of the game. Two years ago Aaron Judge led the majors in strikeouts with 208. He also hit 52 HRs and had a .284/.422/.627 slash line. Strikeouts are a part of the game and just a single performance indicator. Cannot use them to (ahem) judge a player without looking at the whole picture. wabene 1
wabene Verified Member Posted April 17, 2019 Posted April 17, 2019 Two years ago Aaron Judge led the majors in strikeouts with 208. He also hit 52 HRs and had a .284/.422/.627 slash line. Strikeouts are a part of the game and just a single performance indicator. Cannot use them to (ahem) judge a player without looking at the whole picture.It's true my post aside when Sano is going good he just seems dangerous at the plate and, of course, Judge is the judge.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2019 Posted April 17, 2019 I've felt all spring Gonzales would be a flop and so far he's shown it. He would be my first to go... Wow. You do realize we're just past the First Half of the First Month of aSIX month season? This isn't a rookie or a reclamation project. In all likelihood if he's not hiding an injury, Gonzales is, and will be, what he is.... a valuable Super Utility guy (with proven valuable playoff experience). Squirrel 1
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 There will be an injury by the time he is called up to clarify the choice is my guess. If there isn't an injury... whoever has options should check apartment.com for apartments in the Rochester area. As for... Sano looking like Sano looked last year... He also has an option left and I'd be willing to use it. Go Get Em Sano... Take control of your career with both hands please. Richie the Rally Goat 1
Dantes929 Verified Member Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 .300? That seems arbitrary, esp since who cares? I want doubles and HRs and walks......from Sano. Yes, arbitrary. Take your pick of any stat for a week or any time period. I would just like to see some sign of competence after this layoff. Everyone else got 6 weeks of action to ease themselves into the season. Mike Sixel 1
Aerodeliria Verified Member Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 I want four acceptable outfielders who can actually play well enough so as not to lose games through misplays or lumbering around like ogres with one leg tied the foul pole. Unless you can bring up someone who can play outfield as well as Cave and can hit well enough to stick around, I don't see how you can jettison Cave. Adrianza is a utility infielder and one with a bigger downside than Gonzalez IMHO. Gonzalez is a more formidable hitter (I still believe) and can back up anywhere. (Even in a down year Gonzalez drove in 68 and hit 16 home runs and had a OBP of .324 (.409/.733)--not great but Adrianza had a OBP of only .301 (.379/.680).)
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 I want four acceptable outfielders who can actually play well enough so as not to lose games through misplays or lumbering around like ogres with one leg tied the foul pole. Unless you can bring up someone who can play outfield as well as Cave and can hit well enough to stick around, I don't see how you can jettison Cave. Adrianza is a utility infielder and one with a bigger downside than Gonzalez IMHO. Gonzalez is a more formidable hitter (I still believe) and can back up anywhere. (Even in a down year Gonzalez drove in 68 and hit 16 home runs and had a OBP of .324 (.409/.733)--not great but Adrianza had a OBP of only .301 (.379/.680).)Gonzalez is a good left fielder. He is probably better than Rosario. Even with optioning Cave they will have four acceptable outfielders. Richie the Rally Goat 1
Aerodeliria Verified Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 Gonzalez is a good left fielder. He is probably better than Rosario. Even with optioning Cave they will have four acceptable outfielders. In all honesty, I recognized this scenario/argument even prior to posting; however, the negative trade-off is that you have to keep Adrianza, who is really a utility infielder by every stretch of the imagination. Cave would be an acceptable starter for some teams. (Granted Adrianza might have to be a starter on some teams, but it certainly wouldn't be a glorious option.)
Channing1964 Verified Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 I hope we do everything to keep all our guys in the Majors. I am rooting for Sano to become what he is supposed to be- a competent major league third baseman and a very Very Dangerous hitter. Marwin Gonzalez does not care where he plays. He is playing for ANOTHER Ring. With the core group we have it will all come together. Adrianza is still around and I am guessing his attitude and professionalism is why he's here through 2 managers now. Dont hate me but Astudillo or Cave are the most likely to be in Rochester once Sano is deemed ready to return. If not, they will drop the rehab assignment tag on him and leave him there. GO TWINS!!
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 If Miggy-San plays well, it's bye-bye to Adrianza, then Cave for a 13th arm. Gonzo can cover most of that, and El Cherubo gets the rest. Shop Castro, too. Garver and Torts can do the catching, and those guys can hit.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 There will be an injury by the time he is called up to clarify the choice is my guess. If there isn't an injury... whoever has options should check apartment.com for apartments in the Rochester area. As for... Sano looking like Sano looked last year... He also has an option left and I'd be willing to use it. Go Get Em Sano... Take control of your career with both hands please. I thought we burned his last option last season... hope you're right about that, b/c they can keep him down as long as needed if he's not hitting.
ashbury Verified Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 I thought we burned his last option last season... hope you're right about that, b/c they can keep him down as long as needed if he's not hitting.He was added to the 40-man in November 2014, but I THINK his short stint in Rochester in 2016 was injury-related and was not done by exercising an option. He played not at all in AAA in 2017. So I think the exercises were only 2015 and 2018.
Linus Verified Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 The big question with Miggy is whether can regain his rookie year approach. If not it’s not important when he comes back
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 I thought we burned his last option last season... hope you're right about that, b/c they can keep him down as long as needed if he's not hitting.Long enough to get another year of control?
ashbury Verified Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 Long enough to get another year of control?The source I rely on says he has 3 years and 66 days of service time. I forget what being on the IL does to service time - if it counts, then he'd need to spend 2+ months in the minors, and then there are probably arcane rules on top of that which I'm not aware of. Bottom line for me is to not try to play that game on him ... but who knows? (Well, FalVine know.)
JD Green Verified Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 Every team likely has assets and liabilities within their team, when comparing all players to each other player on the team. As the way the Twins position players are currently constructed, here is the way I view them, and will include Sano on this even though he is not currently on the 25 man. To improve the team, you need to turn liabilities into assets. Assets - in no particular order: RosarioBuxtonKeplarPolancoGarverThe TurtleCruzMarwinSchoop Liabilities: CastroAdrianza On the bubble:Need to establish themselves CronCaveSanoI could understand The Turtle being here.
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted April 19, 2019 Posted April 19, 2019 The source I rely on says he has 3 years and 66 days of service time. I forget what being on the IL does to service time - if it counts, then he'd need to spend 2+ months in the minors, and then there are probably arcane rules on top of that which I'm not aware of. Bottom line for me is to not try to play that game on him ... but who knows? (Well, FalVine know.) IL time definitely counts for MLB service time provided the player was on the active MLB roster when he was put on IL, which Sano was. Richie the Rally Goat and ashbury 2
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