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  1. There is nothing to "solve." Either you use your best arm(s) and improve your odds of extending/winning the game or you hold out hope a save opportunity arises. I'd opt for the former. I'd rather this club try to win an 11 inning game than predict the future, particularly with bullpen usage. This is the same Sox team that committed 4 errors (including literally throwing away the first game) booted multiple double play balls, and had a LF fall down trying to field a routine fly ball in a 3 game series right? That Sox team? Yeah, I think having a runner on 2nd to start the 10th puts more pressure on a piss poor defensive squad, and an offense even like the Twins' can score in that situation. Wild huh?
  2. Set an over/under and we'll make a wager. They're 12 games under .500 right now. It'll take months of 90+ win baseball to get to .500 plus they'll need to maintain that by winning half of their games for another 2-3 months.
  3. It gives you a better chance to solve the problem, that's my point. If Chicago is going to walk off Thielbar, then make them do that in the 11th and give yourself another inning to hit.
  4. Why restrict him? There isn't a pitcher on the roster better suited to start an inning with a runner on 2B. We've seen Rocco use him in high leverage rather than traditional save situations this year too. It's one game, and there are factors leading up to, and following the game that affect usage so it's not really worth much hand wringing, but waiting for a save opportunity to use your best arm seems like a good way to let a few of those chances slip away.
  5. What you're labeling as time to come back I see as a normal ebb and flow in performance. If you're going to invest in players with injury risk, you don't get to play the victim when/if they're injured. They traded for two injured SPs and they handed a rotation spot to a third who has never handled even a modest major league workload. Outside of the SPs, Winder was the only name you could argue was expected to provide relief.
  6. Ryan led the team in innings last year. I wouldn't characterize that as missing significant time. We're just going to disagree that some less than stellar outings were due to a positive test result 3+ weeks prior. The Twins were 10ish games over .500 coming into June, which means all three of those starters were throwing during the actual slide. I'm not saying last year was 100% on the pitching, we're talking about Mahle, so pitching is the focus. This team put a lot of faith in a pipeline that didn't, and hasn't, delivered. They signed multiple low tier FA starters to be placeholders, they overtaxed an undermanned bullpen, and they leaned on guys with serious injury concerns. We can waive it away as bad luck, but when a plan fails that spectacularly it's hard not to attribute a majority of it to human error. To bring it back to the Mahle discussion, I don't see those failures as justification for acquiring another SP dealing with injury.
  7. None of the starters you named (Gray, Ryan, and Bundy) missed significant time, and all three were consistently starting games during those months of sub .500 play. I think Gray might've had one more IL stint in there somewhere though. The rest of that crew? Ober had eclipsed 90 innings once in 4 professional seasons coming into last year. At some point you don't get to be shocked when he isn't available. At least one other team passed on acquiring Paddack due to elbow concerns. That TJ didn't come out of nowhere. Alcala is in AAA right now. He had a long stretch of bad baseball in 2021. They definitely planned for him to be in the pen last year, but losing him didn't create some massive hole the team couldn't recover from. Ditto for Coulombe; if he's your lefty at the back of the pen giving you a decent 30ish innings that's great, but he's a journeyman RP, i.e. the definition of replaceable. I have no clue why Romero is even being mentioned here. I'll give you Winder. The shoulder stuff was tough, but even then that's a fringe SP/possible RP.
  8. If you want to argue that Archer and Bundy were signed as placeholders, ok, but then the Twins needed to actually replace them with superior talent. Instead, the "pipeline," failed to deliver, the placeholders were for the most part awful, and the team's other offseason SP acquisition (who had a known elbow issue) blew up in their face within a month. They swung big and missed on young arms, the buy low guys pitched like buy low guys, and players with injury concerns ended up injured. To me that's the definition of backing yourself into a corner. Injuries dealt the final blow, but they were playing sub .500 ball for months before IL stints started to pile up. Idk whether they gave up too much in the deal; my comments don't really have anything to do with the prospect angle. This team shouldn't get a pass for being the victim of tough circumstances when said circumstances are almost entirely of their own making.
  9. Why were the Twins in a position where they had to trade for an injured SP? I don't understand defending the move based on the corner that this team backed itself into.
  10. The top end guys could, simultaneously, have career years, work a high number of innings, and carry the pen a la 2019. Is that what you want to bank on? I never said this pen had to be great, but if you're going to carry two guys who are borderline unusable outside of games already out of reach + a third who hasn't pitched particularly well in limited innings, you can't also expect your top half to continue averaging less than 1 inning per appearance. Something has to give. It's difficult enough to hide one arm over 162 games, let alone 3, hence my concern about poor outings even if they happen to occur during a relatively easy W.
  11. So 6-8 weeks until we see Mahle starting a game for the Twins, and that's if everything (recovery + rehab) goes well. Maeda is on the 15 day IL and it sounds like there's a chance that stint might be closer to 4 weeks. This team couldn't get into May without 2 starters going down. I was concerned about Mahle's shoulder, not his elbow, to start the year, but ahhhh...... https://twinsdaily.com/forums/topic/60913-current-twins-injuries/ some of this thread has aged like milk.
  12. Eh, Pagan is the same guy he was last year; he just will not stop allowing baserunners. Moran can't really be trusted either. It's an incredibly SSS for Winder but he hasn't looked good anywhere to start the year. Maybe he's "shaking off some rust," but he doesn't have a track record that inspires a ton of confidence. I have no idea who or what Brock Stewart is. That's half the bullpen. None of the guys in the top half are throwing multiple innings per outing, at least right now. I'm bothered by wobbly appearances, even if they occur during a semi blowout against a AAA team.
  13. It's a near impossibility they'll be out of the race in the AL Central by the deadline.
  14. I think that's our answer; they likely won't have to worry about the difficulties of maintaining that 6 man rotation for a large part of the season. I'd kick that can as far down the road as I could and if it got to the point where the number of starters in the rotation is "a good problem to have," then you make a decision.
  15. I wouldn't even bother with sending Ober back to St. Paul, I think he needs to stay in the rotation until he's either hurt (likely) or proves he doesn't belong (unlikely) amongst the starting group. My faith in his ability to reach that 120 inning threshold is slim, and even if he were to hit it this year, we'll be having this same discussion for at least another few seasons until he proves he can consistently reach that nominal mark. The worst case is that Maeda fades (either performance or stamina) and Ober isn't available. Get what you can from both of these guys right now, and figure out the rest later. Saving bullets so to speak doesn't make much sense to me when one or two good/decent months bookended by pretty meh baseball might be all it takes to win this awful division.
  16. We're all familiar with his on field antics. Personally I couldn't stand the guy pre or post his MN tenure, but if you're going to label him cancer adjacent, i.e. actively harmful in the clubhouse during his time with the Twins, then actually give me something Twins related.
  17. Why make **** up if you can justify the move on a financial basis?
  18. Anything to actually substantiate this, or are we just reviving a tiresome talking point from last season?
  19. Idk if I'm ready to compare him to Kohl Stewart, but SWR was shut down in 2021, not because he was injured, but because he was pitching so miserably and (in a very SSS) he's not off to a good start this year after bouncing back in 2022. I see people constantly referring to him as a "top prospect," but that term is relative. The Twins don't have a particularly strong farm system, and the high end talent they do possess all seems to be position players, so yeah, SWR might be one of their "best SP prospect," but what does that really mean? I definitely think he'll have a longer leash/run as well, and he'll have every opportunity to grab a rotation spot with 3/5 of the current staff heading into FA, so I guess we'll find out soon.
  20. "More so, it became notable how effuse pitchers were in their praise for trade deadline replacement Sandy Leon, suggesting some animosity toward Sánchez's ability to call the game." What?
  21. I buy that offenses start more slowly. The sparkling numbers from the Twins own starting staff aren't going to hold, but there's still an offensive hierarchy and the Twins find themselves near the bottom. Sale has one good start in four tries this year, and it just so happens to be agains the Twins, but we can consider him a star if you'd like. So out of 9 games when they've finished the 9th innings with 2 or fewer runs (10 if you count last night) only half have been when the opposing pitcher was a "star." Should we expect this offense to consistently shrivel when facing good/decent pitching too? How low do we need to set the bar? If the Twins were KC then yeah, I'd watch this lineup getting mowed down by high end pitching and think "no reason to expect them to compete," because KC is a terrible team. If you're supposed to be a frontrunner for the division title and we're talking postseason than yeah, I think you should at least look somewhat competent, even against high level pitching early in the season.
  22. Conversely, what good, or even pretty good starter has this offense performed well against? Garcia, maybe, and he's had a rough start to the year until his most recent outing. They've finished with 2 runs or less 7x in those 19 games, and they've needed a free runner + extra innings another 2x to clear that low bar. They seem much more capable of looking helpless than knocking around opposing pitching.
  23. Because he's been awful for 3 years now and he had no business being resigned after his meltdown last year. We can stop trying to turn this into something it's not right?
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