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  1. That's a pretty bold statement considering Keuchel was atrocious the last few years and pitched himself out of MLB. Did we forget how much Varland struggled earlier in the year as well? Don't look now, but his AAA numbers since being demoted are eerily similar to what he posted during his stint in MN.
  2. It doesn't matter which league you're sending him to, my point is that you're creating a hole without the resources to plug it. Hard pass on Keuchel for any amount of time, let alone 2 months. Varland is getting blown up in AAA right now and he struggled with the Twins earlier this year. There's a massive drop off from Gray to that duo. MN only has a 1.5 game lead right now, even in a weak division moving Gray is a pretty big gamble.
  3. Sure, I just feel like this is a very quantity for quality swap. A good, young, cost controlled SP is the most valuable asset in baseball. Idk why if I'm Seattle I'm letting that go for what amounts to spare parts.
  4. No I'm reading your posts. That's why I'm asking you to list all these positive contributions, or "other pieces," that aren't getting the credit they deserve. You've already backed down from your claim you could throw out 10, and now you're just defaulting to what the OP listed. Appearances and IPs? Stop. His (negative) WPA is a good thing? Do you realize that the LI (another listed positive) tells us exactly what I previously said? He's pitching almost exclusively in low leverage. Anybody using data to make a case against Pagan is a "hater," but it's everybody else who is being emotional? Ok.... I agree, this is fruitless. You've backed yourself into a corner and I guess the last card to play is victimhood.
  5. Who's taking his spot in the rotation? Ober has matched his career high in IPs and they still need another 2+ months from him. Does Kenta hold up for the rest of the year? There's nobody in AAA that we should feel good about. I don't fear anybody in the ALC either, but the Twins haven't exactly built themselves a cushion, and there's really no SP depth beyond what they're currently rolling out.
  6. Seattle's view of Wallner would have to be wildly different than MN's. I get that this is an "ideal," swap, but this seems like a landslide W for the Twins, which means there's basically no chance it would happen. Seattle is trying to upgrade Hernandez's spot right? Why would they lock themselves into what many of us see as a younger version of that player? To put it another way, if we're Mariners fans, we're pissed if George Kirby and his years of control are being shipped out for a 30 year old 2B on the decline and what Wallner profiles as.
  7. List the facts! You said it yourself, you could rattle off 10 positives categories that aren't being properly weighted. If you've got a glut of info that says Pagan is more than a low leverage, clean inning guy I'm all ears! You're going to complain about arguments being skirted or shifted, but toss Jax out as a comp? Hmmm. Whataboutism aside, yep, Jax was brutal for about a month but there was certainly plenty of hand wringing over his performance. He's been stellar since mid May, and he's pitching late innings/high leverage, i.e. he's an actual weapon, hence he's not viewed similarly to Pagan. There's no "yeah but," here. The case against Pagan is straight forward; he can't handle leverage, he doesn't pitch well when inheriting runners, the need to shield him has a domino effect, and his role is best suited for guys auditioning. Do you have an actual rebuttal to any of that, or is this a never ending tap dance?
  8. His performances in different leverages/situations is the case against him, so no, pointing out that he hasn't come close to filling a mid leverage role isn't semantics. You're not actually bringing up any positives, you're just talking in vague terms and twisting what others are saying into some kind of personal attack narrative. I'll ask you again, what are all these positives that aren't being properly accounted for? What are the 10 areas where he's providing value and contributing to wins but not being rewarded for doing so? Enlighten us "haters."
  9. Yeesh. That's over half of the bullpen right now. I get wanting to move on from Lopez, he has been terrible, but ideally his spot isn't going to another relief arm that has to be spoon fed low leverage.
  10. 30 of his 44 innings have come in low leverage. He isn't close to "filling a mid-leverage roll pretty well." He's providing an abundance of value (10 positive stats) but sitting at a negative WPA?
  11. Gallo needs to write Hernandez a thank you card for that "double."
  12. He has an .860 OPS against on the season when entering with men on base. We know his his high leverage numbers are atrocious. He's back at a negative WPA (by Fangraphs) after last night so the "X number of clunkers in 40 appearances," argument seems pretty silly at this point. He's a guy who can only be trusted to start clean innings in low leverage. That's a role you want Jorge Lopez in while he tries to turn it around, or someone like Balazovic filling while getting their feet wet.
  13. 6 innings, 3 runs, 11 Ks. Idk if they worked him over all that hard. I'd take the 3 runs if you offered them right now though
  14. Yeah they definitely never ambushed anybody, or looked anemic against better arms in the 1st half....
  15. Who is arguing that the Twins need to give the Ws back?
  16. Cease & Giolito just combined for 11 innings, 1 run, and 18 Ks. Castillo and Kirby combined for 13 innings, 3 runs (all Castillo's) and 21 Ks to wrap the previous series. The Twins certainly took advantage of some bad (Oakland & Chicago) and inexperienced (Seattle) pitching but Idk if that's a departure from anything they did in the first half.
  17. Actually the team would be better off with Lewis in CF, unless you think the issues with Buxton don't exist moving forward. No more MAT types locked into the lineup every day, 3B stays open for Lee (or Miranda if he gets it together) and you've got one of your best athletes at a premium defensive position.
  18. He's not healthy enough to spend any amount of time in CF and he's struggling badly at the plate, but there's no IL stint in sight. His injuries haven't progressed through 100ish games, but now, as the wear and tear mounts, they're eyeing a return to CF post deadline? What we're hearing seems to conflict with what we're seeing. I'm not expecting a release of medical records but the Twins have certainly invited speculation/criticism with their handling of the situation. It's not like Buxton is helping the team right now, quite the opposite actually, and he's entrenched in the most easily replaceable position on the team. Are injuries not the primary culprit for his woes at the plate, and are we supposed to believe that whatever has held him out is better after another 2-3 weeks? Is this just Buxton being stubborn about an IL stint and the team giving in?
  19. Probably not as hard I as laugh reading the tone of these posts that completely miss the mark.... They absolutely are part of the problem. Defense first OFers tend to play CF and be platoon/4th OFers. They aren't stalwarts in RF (a bat first position) with a below average bat. Depending on how much stock you want to put in defensive metrics, Kepler hasn't been anything special defensively this year either. Gallo was a bounce back candidate that hasn't worked out. He wasn't some insurance policy and nobody was planning on him "carrying the offense." The guy has been an albatross. He has started 60 games, 53 have been in LF or 1B with a bulk of the latter coming while Kirilloff worked his way back. What are these other two positions he has played "extensively?" I don't understand the need to obfuscate reality to justify roster spots for these two. The calculus here is simple, the Twins can (should) move on from both guys next year, and there are replacements deserving of a shot at AAA.
  20. No, May up until now (present day) is the sample I'm using. He has a .681 OPS over that time. That's 2.5+ months, so nearly half a season. Is that small? We don't have to assume the HRs dry up, look back across the last few months, they do. I too hope that somebody "wrestles," some OF starts away from Gallo.
  21. May to present day is nearly half a season, is that really a SSS? The primary issue is that when those HRs dry up, and they will, what you're left with is unplayable.
  22. That OPS is entirely HR driven, and still heavily inflated by April numbers. I've called it empty in other threads. Since May his OPS is under .700 with a 43% K rate to boot. The average is abysmal, and his OBP is below average. He's an offensive black hole a vast majority of the time. He only provides value when he's clustering HRs, and that happens far too infrequently. I absolutely have watched Gallo's ABs during this stretch and thought the guy was unplayable, but YMMV.
  23. This. I'll believe it when I see it. This FO has been incredibly comfortable running out non-performers with regularity. If they're cool with letting Gallo flail away for months and be awful Idk why we'd expect Buxton's leash to be shorter. Here's to hoping we're pleasantly surprised I guess...
  24. They've continued to stick it out with Kepler and Gallo, I guess I'll believe it when I see it with sitting Buxton. If he hits the Il as soon as Polanco is back there should be plenty of questions about why they didn't make that move sooner...
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