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  1. Overall they aren't though. It's an incredibly SSS. Julien has been a part time 2B since Polanco came back, so yeah, "since July...." sounds a lot better than "3 weeks," which is roughly the number of starter innings he has been in the field over that period of time. Do they? You just listed 3 guys (also Plouffe was not a developmental success on the defensive side) that span nearly 60 years. At some point the exceptions prove the rule right? I would trade some defense for offense in this lineup too.
  2. Yep, they're in a good spot, and it's 100% because of this awful ****ing division somehow became even worse. Cleveland is writing the same article last year though, no? Kwan, Gimenez, Josh Naylor, the pitching, yada yada the future is now! Idk why we need to go over the top with so much of this.... No, the Twins didn't run away with anything this season. Games remaining + Cleveland's August slide did most of the heavy lifting, but congrats on losing the season series to the Guardians by only one game I guess. Hell, the Twins wouldn't even be a post expansion WC team right now despite the massive divisional/schedule advantage. MN imploded each of the last two seasons (while trying to win) and missed the playoffs, but we're touting sustainability? Seriously? We're patting the FO on the back for fulfilling that "vision," and talking about dynasties? C'mon..... Remember when "crushing it," became a meme? I do.....
  3. To what extent? Can he be an everyday 2B? That's the real question. Is moving from unplayably awful to just bad enough of an improvement to hand him 2B over the course of a full season? Obviously the amount of pain you're willing to tolerate defensively is tied to his hitting when we're talking about playing time, but the data you're referencing (Idk how much stock you're willing to put into defensive metrics) isn't good, or even ok. Younger players don't look as bad defensively breaking into the majors unless they're actually that bad. The learning curve defensively isn't close to what they face on the hitting side of things. You don't see IF prospects come up and not be able to handle routine plays the same way you might see guys struggle at the plate.
  4. Ok, so if the Twins just play .500 baseball, Cleveland has to go 15-7 after taking the next two against MN right? That's a lot to ask of a team that has consistently played slightly sub .500 baseball all year.
  5. Exceptions prove the rule right? Of course there is still a way for the Twins to bungle this on their own end, but they haven't run into any prolonged slides (good or bad) all year despite being a rather underwhelming team. Cleveland could also get insanely hot, but they've been middling at best for 140 games, Idk why now of all times we'd expect them to turn it on.
  6. Yeah, no. They needed a sweep. Going 2-1 vs MN still puts them 4 games back with 22 to play, that's life support territory. In either scenario it would also take an all time collapse by the Twins, against the likes of Chicago, Oakland, Anaheim, and Colorado no less, for Cleveland to end up on top of the ALC.
  7. That MVP stretch was 13ish games in April where he hit 7 HRs. He's at nearly 300 PAs since then, and like you said, it has been really bad. Idk if perception is really being skewed here. Maybe we need to define "grossly."
  8. Perhaps not to the same extent, but clearly, if you're going to argue that Gallo is an average or better offensive player, the bolded is questionable at best. Look, I understand what these stats are trying to measure. I just disagree that wRC+ best encapsulates Arraez's specific offensive impact. I'm picking on your Gallo example here, but IMO it highlights the point I'm making. At the risk of this turning into another Gallo thread, I'll say my piece and be done with it. I think he's been miserable because he has been. I've watched him be an absolute black hole in the lineup for the last 4 months. I didn't mention his average once (although yes, it's putrid) he has a sub .300 OBP (which is awful) despite the BBs, he's striking out in nearly 50% of his ABs, and even by more traditional slugging metrics he's well below average at what's supposed to be his "strength." There's nothing about who he has been for a vast, and I mean vast, majority of the season that is even close to an average offensive player. It's odd to me that you can accept the fact that other stats fall short of telling the whole story, but you think wRC+ is immune.
  9. Pointing at Gallo's wRC+ is just circular logic. We know he's not close to being an average offensive contributor. We know that because we've watched him for the last 4 months, so isn't it also possible that wRC+ has its own limitations? If it's capable of telling us that a miserable offensive player like Gallo is slightly above average, is it not also capable of undervaluing other players?
  10. I never said it was evil, I said I don't like it. Matt Moore isn't some fringe guy that hasn't been able to carve out an active roster spot, or a veteran player on the decline. Dumping legit MLB players on the waiver wire to save yourself from paying out the final month of contracts feels exploitative. YMMV but I'd be annoyed if teams chasing me were getting handouts. Some team, for the same cost as a ST flier, is going to scoop him, and potentially use him in a postseason game. If the Twins get him it'll be high fives all around. If he's the lefty out of the pen that's shutting them down, I doubt many people will be thrilled with what the Angels did.
  11. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I'm not a fan of waiver dumps like this. Anaheim is that idiot in your fantasy league that doesn't set lineups, gets eliminated early, and then unloads their roster because why not. Teams have an entire offseason, plus 4 months during the regular season, to pay for talent. They shouldn't be scooping it up in late August for peanuts.
  12. Yep, they're not going to spend money to spite the Twins after essentially ceding the division a month ago. Hell, I doubt they'd spend the money if they were still in the race.
  13. You made the case that Baltimore is a Cinderella team, soon to get snuffed out, and the Twins, despite qualifying for nearly all your "cute," criteria, and toiling away in the worst division in baseball, are primed to make a run. The Twins might be left standing, but it won't be because MN is suddenly unlocking some hidden talent level and Baltimore is a fraud.
  14. I get all that, what I'm asking is what else should be expect a stat that heavily weighs power production to say about Arraez? By wRC+ Gallo is an average or slightly above average offensive contributor. To me that points to something you touched on earlier, disproportionately assigned value. You could certainly argue that Gallo is an outlier, and I'd be inclined to agree, but that's the point of my fish analogy with Arraez.
  15. Okay? Guys playing above their talent level, relying on a "formula," post hype prospects, shaky bullpen, unproven, struggles against high level pitching.... None of that also applies to the Twins?
  16. Is Arraez overrated or are we judging a fish by its ability to climb a tree?
  17. For a team that isn't "cute," they sure do meet a lot of the criteria laid out for being labeled as such....
  18. Down 4-1 in the 3rd with two runners on, riding a 7-8 game losing streak at that point, fighting for playoff spot, and we think a pitch that catches Jeffers at or below the tricep (in his 2nd AB) was intentional? C'mon guys....
  19. Run would just be analogous to whatever physical criteria Buxton wasn't meeting to be considered able to play in CF. I think it was also Rocco and the team, well into the season, relaying the message that Buxton was physically unable to be in CF, and I know a lot of the pushback towards clearing the DH/CF logjam by using him in CF centered on his inability to be out there. We could probably chalk this up to s*** PR, because I do think they were trying to save their bullets so to speak.
  20. You aren't participating in either if you're physically unable to run, that's the oddity being pointed out here. The messaging seems to have shifted more than the goals...
  21. He was physically unable to spend even any amount of time in CF to this point. The effort the Twins put in to ensure he never set foot in the OF was comical at times. He adds the wear and tear of 85 games played, people are constantly pointing to the grimacing, labored movement, ect as evidence he's struggling, he finally hits the IL, but now he's no longer dealing with the physical limitations that wouldn't allow him to play defense earlier in the year? Yeah, I think that's odd. I also think there's a very clear difference between incapable and unwilling.
  22. Can I choose neither? Joking.....kinda. Gray vs. Floro/Ortega/Winder is almost two sides of the same coin at this point.
  23. I think the Twins are safe from any sort of competency rising up out of Chicago as long as Reinsdorf owns the team.
  24. That's not really the question though right? I assume the poster is asking why now? Why after 130 games, while on the IL, are we talking about "ramping up?" If he wasn't healthy enough to play CF in April or May after an entire offseason, the idea that an IL stint this late in the season is some sort of panacea seems odd no?
  25. No, I wouldn't go with a hard cap. Right now I view Ober the same way I view Buxton; they're best used (maxed) when available. I understand some of the concern with his innings, but he's 28 and as you've already pointed out, he has trouble staying on the field. I'm not at all confident he's back to 130+ or even 100+ innings next year no matter what type of management route the team decides to use. If he looks fatigued, or starts to slip that's another story, but by all accounts he's healthy and feeling good, so I think you roll along status quo. Also, I don't want Kuechel and Varland making starts over the next 3 weeks when this 19 game stretch should hopefully wrap the division.
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