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  1. KirbyDome89
    AAV doesn't matter, CC is going to make more money during the length of his Mets deal than he would've in MN. What is it about the extra years + extra money that's so difficult to grasp? Yes, CC's opportunities to earn off the field are much greater in NY. Also yes, the Mets paid him more than the Twins.
  2. KirbyDome89
    What mystery team was going to jump in and beat NY's offer? Was Boras in a hurry, or did he get the best possible offer and advise Correa to say yes? Passing because you refuse to spend isn't due diligence.
  3. KirbyDome89
    You might be right, but to me that just points to an unwillingness to spend that I previously mentioned, not due diligence.
  4. KirbyDome89
    If the money spooked them, is not cold feet? Whether it's insurance, an owner stepping in, ect it doesn't matter.
  5. KirbyDome89
    "If Minnesota wanted Correa, Boras conveyed, the team needed to improve its earlier offer – even though Correa appeared compromised with the Giants. The Twins would not have advanced the conversation without investigating the potential issues caused by Correa’s physical." What else would the bolded imply?
  6. KirbyDome89
    There might not have been money left at the table. Boras could've read "I need some time," as the beginning stage of a breakup and decided to get out in front of it.
  7. KirbyDome89
    "So there you have it. I'm not sure anyone can hold the Twins front office at fault in this situation, given that they merely appear to have been doing their due diligence." He would've undergone a physical last year in MN. The article mentions that the Twins had "a solid understanding of Correa’s medical history, having just employed him," and that the leg injury he suffered in the minors has never caused him to miss time in 8 ML seasons. The Mets were also a team that passed on Paddack last year due to medical concerns, but now the Twins being outbid by the Mets is "due diligence?" That's a fairly massive spin job. I'm gonna call BS on the idea that the Twins were eager and/or willing to jump back in and spend the money it would've taken to sign Correa. Why would Boras wait on a team that was still $30M short, and had zero intention of even getting to $300M? How many other teams were actually in on Correa, and of them, how many had enough room in their budget to throw a better offer at him than NY? Isn't MN's unwillingness to spend, and NY's enthusiasm to do so a much more plausible explanation than some mysterious malady which hasn't affected Correa in nearly a decade, and was completely off the Twins radar during both their own physical and the entirety of the year he played for the organization?
  8. KirbyDome89
    I'm honestly curious, where does Correa start to look bad here? Short of sabotaging his own physical (not sure how that's possible) it was SF who decided to press pause. I can certainly see a scenario where things got contentious, especially after the non-presser and news getting out, but if I'm CC, and a team that promised me $350 a week ago decided to come back talk about a lesser offer I'd probably be pissed too.
  9. KirbyDome89
    Weren't the Mets the same team that passed on Paddock because of his medical report? Either they view the Correa issue totally different than SF (not impossible,) they're desperate for that "final piece," to get them over the hump, or maybe SF actually got cold feet. Either way it's pretty wild. What was your favorite CC Giants moment?
  10. KirbyDome89
    Yeah I'm not suggesting anything nefarious, but 7 days seems like a long time if you'd even remotely consider nixing the deal. I guess we'll have to wait and see what/how serious the hold up is. Swanson is also in agreement though no? The Cubs would have to find a physical reason to fail him and move on similar to what Vanimal mentioned, so they're technically off the board barring that happening right?
  11. KirbyDome89
    How does it take SF this long to get a medical report? If I'm Correa, or even Boras, and I've watched Swanson sign thus removing a potential suitor, and meanwhile SF took a week and decided to press pause...ehhh yeah. Does the PA get involved if SF decides to pull the plug here? Idk how there isn't some kind of deal still worked out between the two sides at this point.
  12. KirbyDome89
    I doubt anybody is high on the signing to begin with, but I like it a lot less if Gallo is a depth move. You can maybe sell fans on him being a higher upside play than Kepler. Maybe a package of Kepler + fills a different hole on this roster. That's at least a semi creative way of using the $$ resources at your disposal. Keeping both players feel like a "throw it against the wall and see what sticks approach."
  13. KirbyDome89
    It's not halftime, the game is over. The FO can try to salvage this offseason and bring in talent via trade, but that will require parting with talent at the major league level, or from an already thin farm. There's no winning when you had ample $$ and passed on spending any of it on impact, or even solidly above average players. A team that claims to rely so heavily on developing talent continues to put themselves in a position where they have to trade prospects just to plug holes and tread water at the ML level. Make that make sense....
  14. KirbyDome89
    Nobody is saying FA is anything other than a supplement. Nobody. You need to understand that, and argue in good faith. It won't fix the development issues, but it can certainly lessen their impact. Is the current strategy of signing bottom tier arms anything other than bad? How many years should this club potentially burn waiting for the stars to align as far as developing a staff goes?
  15. KirbyDome89
    They didn't suggest it was a good strategy, they suggested it was a necessary one based on the total lack of development and this FO's inability to consistently plug the holes they create year after year. They aren't avoiding actions with a high probability of failure; Happ, Shoemaker, Bundy, and Archer were locked into rotation spots the last 2 years.
  16. KirbyDome89
    Cool, a LH bat for an OF that badly needs RH power, and another "all or nothing," hitter to insert into a lineup that looked anemic for long stretches last year....
  17. KirbyDome89
    You've got it backwards. I'm not willing to overpay, I'm willing to meet the price that the market dictates while you're championing below market offers. To continue your home buying analogy; the length of my mortgage as the buyer is irrelevant to you. All that matters is agreed upon sale price. So, I'll ask again, would you sell me your home at 20% less than what equivalent homes are currently going for? If the market dictates that your home is worth $350K, and I offer $280K, you wouldn't be underwhelmed? You would seriously entertain my offer?
  18. KirbyDome89
    Disciplined, at least in this context, carries a positive connotation, the implication being we should buy into the process. That process, though not solely responsible, has largely contributed to a couple pretty poor seasons recently. **Credit where it's due for landing Correa last year, but his situation was unique, and obviously they can't rely on something similar happening, maybe ever again.** I couldn't agree more with Squirrel, I can't get over this FO consciously submitting an offer that anybody with a pulse knew wasn't going to win, or if we're being honest, even come close.
  19. KirbyDome89
    They were $65M short.... Yes, they should be dogged for talking up Correa as a priority and then making an offer that had absolutely no chance of being accepted. Counter offer; I'll give you 20% under market value, a la our beloved Twins. How could you say no? Have your people contact mine.
  20. KirbyDome89
    So now it's an issue of cost and not availability? No, the Twins weren't "used." They didn't want to pay market rates. It baffles me, that with their underwhelming offer made public (by the Twins themselves no less!) fans would still rather believe in some Boras/Correa conspiracy theory.
  21. KirbyDome89
    Those players become the anchors, or you have the money to then go out and sign that type of player.
  22. KirbyDome89
    Would you rather the team give up established players and/or prospects instead of just $$ to acquire talent? We can play the same game, and point out the warts on whoever ends up filling in at these positions, the point was that there was plenty of money to spend + opportunity to spend it, yet the Twins watched better options come off the board while sitting on a non serious offer to Correa.
  23. KirbyDome89
    Contreras would've been a massive upgrade at C. Haniger would've solved the RH OFer hole or Abreu at DH if the Twins just wanted a RH bat. Throw the Vasquez money at David Robertson and maybe take a flier on Tommy Kahnle since this FO doesn't fear injury risk with pitchers. All of that was absolutely possible with the money MN has to spend. Of course the Twins did, or hopefully will find other players to fill those holes, but the guys that "slipped away," were the more desirable players. That's the criticism.
  24. KirbyDome89
    Time is a flat circle....at least for fans of this team.
  25. KirbyDome89
    1) I'd be excited to watch him alongside some of the younger players. In 10 years the hope would be that a $27M AAV would look and feel like the deal the Twins have with Buxton. 2) No. MN state tax would have him at roughly 10% I believe, and when you factor in the higher MN AAV (our big bragging point) the gap between the deals doesn't really budge; he makes $50M more in SF rather than $65. 3) Giving Jose Miranda a Wander Franco deal is a more prudent financial investment? Yeesh. 4) So make the team worse in the short term (i.e. rebuild) while they've got young positional talent or vets on team friendly deals everywhere? Hard pass. 5) Trade for the immature star on a 14 year $340M deal because Correa at 13/$350 is so unpalatable?
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