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  1. KirbyDome89
    It's a high BABIP in comparison to his half season in Baltimore as a reliever, it's not a crazy departure from his time as a starter, and I think that's the concern. Is his half season in Baltimore indicative of who he is, or are we seeing a guy drifting back down to Earth? You're right, the number of runners allowed has been atrocious, and while we can take some solace in his zero percentage, that''ll start to reflect his poor WHIP given enough time.
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    But he's able to eat up innings, and when he inevitably starts to put the game out of reach the decision not to use better arms becomes an easy one. #Value
  3. KirbyDome89
    The benches clearing was on Lopez. Vaughn was obviously (rightly) pissed about a pitch that missed his face by 6 inches. He literally put his head down out of the box, started towards 1B, shaking his head, and was taking off his gear when Lopez started barking at him and escalated the situation. This wasn't about whether or not the HPB was on purpose, it was about where the pitch was.
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    Only 2 games back despite going 4-6 in their last 10. Cleveland has a tough 6 games this week. If the Twins hold serve against Boston and Chicago continues their tailspin MN could have a share of 1st place heading into that NY series. This division is hilarious.
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    I wasn't exactly optimistic, but they'd also done most of the damage against Houston's bullpen the previous 2 games so a 2 run deficit wasn't a death sentence. I get some of the usage criticism, but I also see a team that had lost 4 straight, desperate to stop the bleeding, and a game that was still in reach. I just can't ding him too much here. If the pen coughs up the game tonight sans Duran or he makes an appearance and struggles my stance my swing. I feel like a lot of the criticism plays both sides, hence my question, but hey, if you're willing to live and die by saving those bullets then ok, point taken. Idk how much stock I'd put into individual game win percentages, but more importantly IMO, you want to be using your best players. Ideally it's highest leverage, but at some point the poor performance starts to become a self inflicted if your best arms continue to sit on the shelf.
  7. KirbyDome89
    If Rocco went with Pagan & Megill early, and a 2 run deficit turned into 5 run deficit, would you be defending the move to save Duran and Lopez, or would you pissed that a game they had a fighting chance in was put out of reach? Honestly.
  8. KirbyDome89
    Overpaid and inflated in comparison to what? The Twins started this year with a payroll $10M less than last year, it's clear they're not committing significant money to pitching, and they've got a lineup that's almost exclusively young/cheap/on team friendly deals, so what exactly about the Correa signing isn't viable for them? Conversely Arraez, Polanco, and Miranda cost roughly $8M combined and have been worth 6+ WAR and counting. Half of the Twins top WAR producers aren't even arb eligible, 3 of the remaining 5 are on the aforementioned team friendly deals, Sanchez is gone after this year, which leaves only Correa if he inexplicably decides to stay. You see my point about why it's silly to paper a FA dollars to WAR ratio across an entire roster when we know things are more fluid than that right?
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    Correa was obtained on the FA market so the ratio is relevant. I get a chuckle out of these quick math arguments when we all know teams aren't filling out their active rosters with 26 guys earning market value.
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    To be clear I'm not writing either of them off completely here, and they're one part of what I see as a larger problem. I think you're downplaying Ober's injury history a little. 108 innings last year (the most he's ever thrown) seems like the exception to the rule, and that's not a viable SP workload even by today's modest standards. We tend to forget it, but he began, and finished last year on the IL too. He's 27, and this year will be his third time in four full professional seasons where he'll finish with 70 something or fewer IP. None of this touches on whether he'll stick from a talent standpoint either. Idk what to do with Winder. His MLB exposure is limited; I don't see much value in picking that apart, but the shoulder thing scares me. 3x in 1 year is a problem that doesn't seem like it's going away without intervention, and anytime we're talking a shoulder or an elbow....yeah.... Maybe these guys hit your ceilings. They'll certainly get every opportunity to fail; that's the corner this FO has painted themselves into.
  11. KirbyDome89
    Ryan isn't a developmental success. He threw a whopping 9 innings at AAA and was immediately called up post trade. Again, great trade, but he was MLB ready when the Twins got their hands on him. God forbid two pitchers are injured? C'mon...that's not even close to what I've said. Bringing up an inconsistent offense is whataboutism. It doesn't have any bearing on pitching development. If the expectation that the Twins would have at least developed one reliable backend guy by this point is unreasonable, then we've moved the goalposts too far.
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    Remember when the clubhouse atmosphere was supposedly night and day different from last season, Correa was being praised as a leader, and we were scapegoating Josh Donaldson? I do....
  13. KirbyDome89
    Can't remember the last time the tone of these reviews was any different. Pretty much the last 3+ months in a nutshell.
  14. KirbyDome89
    Everyone!? How about one? Just one starting pitcher in year 6 who can throw 120+ innings and be at least a back end rotation staple. I mean talk about setting a low bar....
  15. KirbyDome89
    Ryan wasn't a prospect. Great trade, but zero development there. No way we're seriously counting Sands as anything right? He was terrible as a starter so far and the "hope," is he'll be a useful bullpen piece. Winder just went on the IL with his 3rd shoulder issue in a calendar year and it's not like he was a rotation lock prior to that. Ober hasn't been able to stay healthy and handle even a light work load at any level. 30 something innings this year. If they're holding a rotation spot for a perpetually unavailable guy who profiles as a 4-5 at best then we should yell. Duran. Yep, success, failed starter but still an overall success. Jax? Eh, if you want to stretch it to help your case sure. I wouldn't, and even his place in the pen was being questioned recently but whatever. I count zero reliable starters developed and 1, maybe 2 bullpen pieces. This was it, the development year, and its been a disaster. A better analogy would be promising your kids a cookie or two and then handing them a rice cake.
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    Am I concerned about the farm ranking? No Am I concerned about the continued inability to develop pitching? Absolutely.
  17. KirbyDome89
    Whoosh. Hard to tell around here sometimes. Compared to them the Twins kinda are, but 25 other franchises could probably make the same claim.
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    They've also made the postseason twice in the 28 years the AL Central has existed, but yeah, exemplary franchise. I mean, c'mon...
  19. KirbyDome89
    If internal options weren't an absolute disaster Bundy would've been in serious jeopardy of losing his job in June. The Twins being forced to roll with him in the rotation isn't credit worthy.
  20. KirbyDome89
    I think we're stretching the definition of value. Archer's short starts are torching an already overtaxed pen, and even with the short leash his meltdowns are so sudden it's nearly impossible to prevent damage. He's already made something like $5.5M based on appearance incentives, and 6 more starts will put him over $7M. There's no value there; the Twins are going to end up paying back end starter money to a guy that's a long relief arm at best. Bundy....eh. It took his last start against a hapless Angels team to sneak his ERA under 5. No, he hasn't been one of the worst starters in baseball, but the fact that we're even considering a bar that low kinda says it all. They're getting bargain bin production at a bargain bin price. If he's your worst starter on an otherwise solid staff, ok, fine. Unfortunately that isn't the case.
  21. KirbyDome89
    2 runs in 3 games, both coming in the same inning, against a Twins staff that isn't exactly lighting the world on fire. A perpetual loser like KC throwing in the towel at the deadline and trotting out an even worse team for the last 2 months is great for the Twins, but terrible for baseball.
  22. KirbyDome89
    Let's hope not, although it'd be entertaining to see the gaslighting necessary to convince a fanbase that next season won't be his 4th trash year in a row. Similar to Colome last season, there's literally no amount of production that'll justify bringing him back. The damage has already been done.
  23. KirbyDome89
    "Both Pagan’s xFIP and xERA are far better than the results have bore out thus far, but the caveat to expected stats is that they don’t matter until they’re actualized." Unless we're operating under the delusion Pagan has been "unlucky," with HRs for nearly 2 seasons now, his xFIP isn't all that relevant. Disagree as far as expected stats are concerned. Fix the pipe while it's dripping; don't wait for it to burst...
  24. KirbyDome89
    First it was get fat during that 2 week stretch against KC and DET in late May & early June, then it was 8 games against Cleveland in 10 days to provide separation in late June, next it was get to the AS break and rest, and finally it settled on the trade deadline a few weeks back. Now we're moving the goalposts into September?
  25. KirbyDome89
    FA isn't a value play, so complaining about value, particularly in an apples to oranges comparison, is pointless. What seems misguided is how you're defining failure. Would the Twins be better with Jermaine Palacios and his sub .500 OPS starting? Would spending more prospect capital at the deadline for a SS, assuming the Twins were still in the race and one was available, have been the better solution? Even if Correa is a "failure," and ends up costing more than $8.5M per WAR, he's better than the alternative. Correa is third on the team in WAR, but we're bemoaning the guy's AAV while team payroll is down $10M from last season, and a vast majority of the core players are some combination of young/cheap/on team friendly deals? The Twins are winning games this year, Correa is obviously a big part of that, seems far from a "recipe for failure," to me.
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