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  1. They didn't suggest it was a good strategy, they suggested it was a necessary one based on the total lack of development and this FO's inability to consistently plug the holes they create year after year. They aren't avoiding actions with a high probability of failure; Happ, Shoemaker, Bundy, and Archer were locked into rotation spots the last 2 years.
  2. Cool, a LH bat for an OF that badly needs RH power, and another "all or nothing," hitter to insert into a lineup that looked anemic for long stretches last year....
  3. You've got it backwards. I'm not willing to overpay, I'm willing to meet the price that the market dictates while you're championing below market offers. To continue your home buying analogy; the length of my mortgage as the buyer is irrelevant to you. All that matters is agreed upon sale price. So, I'll ask again, would you sell me your home at 20% less than what equivalent homes are currently going for? If the market dictates that your home is worth $350K, and I offer $280K, you wouldn't be underwhelmed? You would seriously entertain my offer?
  4. Disciplined, at least in this context, carries a positive connotation, the implication being we should buy into the process. That process, though not solely responsible, has largely contributed to a couple pretty poor seasons recently. **Credit where it's due for landing Correa last year, but his situation was unique, and obviously they can't rely on something similar happening, maybe ever again.** I couldn't agree more with Squirrel, I can't get over this FO consciously submitting an offer that anybody with a pulse knew wasn't going to win, or if we're being honest, even come close.
  5. They were $65M short.... Yes, they should be dogged for talking up Correa as a priority and then making an offer that had absolutely no chance of being accepted. Counter offer; I'll give you 20% under market value, a la our beloved Twins. How could you say no? Have your people contact mine.
  6. So now it's an issue of cost and not availability? No, the Twins weren't "used." They didn't want to pay market rates. It baffles me, that with their underwhelming offer made public (by the Twins themselves no less!) fans would still rather believe in some Boras/Correa conspiracy theory.
  7. Those players become the anchors, or you have the money to then go out and sign that type of player.
  8. Would you rather the team give up established players and/or prospects instead of just $$ to acquire talent? We can play the same game, and point out the warts on whoever ends up filling in at these positions, the point was that there was plenty of money to spend + opportunity to spend it, yet the Twins watched better options come off the board while sitting on a non serious offer to Correa.
  9. Contreras would've been a massive upgrade at C. Haniger would've solved the RH OFer hole or Abreu at DH if the Twins just wanted a RH bat. Throw the Vasquez money at David Robertson and maybe take a flier on Tommy Kahnle since this FO doesn't fear injury risk with pitchers. All of that was absolutely possible with the money MN has to spend. Of course the Twins did, or hopefully will find other players to fill those holes, but the guys that "slipped away," were the more desirable players. That's the criticism.
  10. Time is a flat circle....at least for fans of this team.
  11. 1) I'd be excited to watch him alongside some of the younger players. In 10 years the hope would be that a $27M AAV would look and feel like the deal the Twins have with Buxton. 2) No. MN state tax would have him at roughly 10% I believe, and when you factor in the higher MN AAV (our big bragging point) the gap between the deals doesn't really budge; he makes $50M more in SF rather than $65. 3) Giving Jose Miranda a Wander Franco deal is a more prudent financial investment? Yeesh. 4) So make the team worse in the short term (i.e. rebuild) while they've got young positional talent or vets on team friendly deals everywhere? Hard pass. 5) Trade for the immature star on a 14 year $340M deal because Correa at 13/$350 is so unpalatable?
  12. For me it's disappointment, not angst. I didn't expect Correa back. Is there a better use of all the "financial flexibility," constantly endorsed here? It's pretty clear this FO won't commit years or $$ to pitching (happy to eat those words if Rodon signs,) and the position player group is nearly all pre arb or on team friendly deals. Surplus savings aren't applied to later seasons; missing out on Correa isn't a cause for celebration.
  13. The fact that the higher AAV is being touted when they came up well short is what's cringey, not the fact that he's no longer a member of the Twins.
  14. Yep, you nailed it with the "plausible deniability," comment the other day. Also, it's cringey that we're talking about the Twins offering a higher AAV when they're short three years and $65M.
  15. I read that tweet as "the Twins will pursue one or the other," not that they're destined to sign one of the two, which is basically a giant nothing burger. Nobody needs to be informed that MN isn't signing both players.
  16. Neither was Buxton, but that's beside the point right? Just like Judge, those two had a preferred destination and turned down more lucrative opportunities. We're irked about a hypothetical because it's the Yankees, but whatever.
  17. Yeah I think at least 4-5 pitching acquisitions over the last few years would all slot above the aforementioned position players if we're taking about true risk.
  18. Was it complete crap when Mauer, or more recently Buxton, eschewed FA and left money on the table to stay in MN? If Rodon signs with NY for less, and the Twins are one of the teams that bested their offer, then sure, throw a pity party and run with the "NY discount," theory, but until that happens there isn't anything unusual with how FA has played out for them.
  19. Can we really call it a discount if the highest bid wins? I'll feel bad for the Twins if/when they come with receipts and show they submitted the best offer and were told "no thanks."
  20. I guess we'll see, but it'd be shocking if the baseball world was totally wrong and Correa signed for sub $300M with the Twins being $25M+ above any other interested party.
  21. What's more likely, the Twins are bidding against themselves and Boras (and the baseball world) has been playing them this entire time, or MN isn't alone in committing the type of money reported, i.e. they aren't setting the market?
  22. You think the Twins are artificially raising the ceiling on Correa!?
  23. Likely very small, to the point it's almost nonexistent. It's pretty clear Vasquez doesn't want to be in a relatively even timeshare, and that's the approach the Twins have steered towards. Money, years, and in this case playing time rule the day. If Miami decided to grant him all three wishes he'd be a Marlin today. That's how this works.
  24. Died seeing the Sox & The Alliance of Magicians comp. Chef's kiss.
  25. Yeah I wouldn't take much comfort in Bogaerts or any of the top SS names coming off the market, particularly with other clubs circling and Twins' recent penchant for the "wait and see," approach.
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