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The key to winning seasons is having guys that you were not expecting to have great years, have great years. Unless you are one of the few teams that can spend a ton of money, every mid to small market teams needs young guys and cast off guys to step up on big years. Just look at Twins last year, Wallner and Julien had great years when they came up. Kepler had career year. Lewis was insane. This year, even more so by end of year no one was stepping up. Santana did better than expected overall, but struggled to start and end season. Lewis regressed a ton, no rookies or young guys stepped up. No one came out of no where to say wow did not see that coming. Miranda had a run mid season that was like that but then he fell off a cliff by end of year. Ober had a season like that, and SWR was good, but both fell off near end of year. The pen fell apart. Spending money does not always equal wins, and you can cut payroll, if you hit on the guys you bring in.
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This was not the most disappointing season, and really on the list the 2022 and 2011 were only really disappointment seasons. I would say 2011 was as we had are core team, had been winning for several years, and thought that would continue, and the season was just terrible. 2022 was also an issue as we had the big signing of CC and trade for Grey, but we still had some holes. The other seasons listed, the team did not finish far off from where they were expected going into the season. In 2001 they were not expected to compete at all, just because they faded down stretch does not mean they were a disappointment. In 1992 they were just a few wins off the prior year, yes they had hopes of repeating, but back then even getting into playoffs on back to back years were hard enough. We lost one of our top starters from 1991. This year we did terrible down the stretch, but did not finish too far off of what many expected in total wins. It was disappointing, and not a fun last month really, but I would not say the most disappointing.
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Twins Short-Season Minor League Hitter of the Year– 2024
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I do not get too hyped on international kids in DSL short seasons. So much can happen in their physical development.- 8 replies
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I would have loved to see Eeles get sent. He for sure could have went over Ben Ross, now sure their thought there sending Ross. I get Eeles is not a top prospect due to being undrafted, and tiny, but he climbed all way up to AAA and showed he can hit there.
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Julien will stay in organization, unless a team comes along with a good offer. He will play in AAA next year until there are injuries. Then he will need to run with it or will be a future DFA guy. Crazy how a year ago all the talk was he was the future at second base for the Twins years to come, now we are talking about if he will be on the roster next year. One it shows why you can never have too many prospects in the wings because you never know if a player is for real, even when they have a good rookie year. What stuck out to me on him early in the year was he clearly had no clue how teams were going to pitch him. He was taking way too many pitches in the zone and started swinging at way too many out of the zone. It did not help early on he was striking out watching pitches just out of a zone, but he looked so lost early in season, and has not found it.
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Only way we could is if the offense learns to hit with RISP, or start hitting a ton of HR. Hard to score if you do neither, which is what they have been doing. We get hits to get guys on and never score them lately. By not scoring at all, we put too much pressure on the pitching. They know if they give up 1 run odds of us winning are almost 0.
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In a Way, the Twins Made the Playoffs Last Night
Trov replied to Matthew Trueblood's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It has just been sad to watch the team play so bad this month. We cannot get a hit with runners on, we cannot hit a HR anymore, no one has stepped up and all are playing terrible at once. It is not just the offense, but the pitching has been bad overall, but even when they are good, the team cannot score. The fielding has been poor as well. Last year, Kepler, Julien, and Wallner carried us into the playoffs. Wallner has been okay, but not like last year, and Julien has been terrible, Kepler is hurt, Lewis is slumping like he never has, Miranda looks like last year, not the guy that helped carry us in the middle months. Correa and Buck can get hits, but no one else are getting them before or after. Lee looks like he has no clue how to hit, after his hot start at this level. Larnach has been decent. It just shows how important every game though a season is. We are limping to end of season, but we had many games early in year we could have won and did not, and even late here many would have held on and did not. -
It is a real interesting week ahead. Each team is playing a bottom feeder. Det is playing a team that if they sweep Det they could, but unlikely, jump into wild card in Tampa. KC is playing a team fighting for WC in NL, but could be out of it by weekend. Twins should be playing a team setting up for WC matchup, that could be against Twins. Seattle is playing a team locked into 3rd division slot, provided they do not get swept by Seattle, if Seattle sweeps Houston, then Houston may be fighting for wild card on the weekend. All the Twins can do is take care of their business, which they have failed at really bad this month.
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He may be getting worse on defense, but the question is he still better than anyone else we have to put there? If so, then he plays there over others. If not, you slid him to RF just like all the top CF have done in their careers when they lose a step. You knew it was going to happen before his contract was up.
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I did not watch the game, but the writer suggests pulling Matthews was correct because of third time through and Matthew was facing a lefty, and there was 2 outs. Well, you could have walked Duran and pitch to the righties. One thing I hate about this no third time, even more so on rookies, is the rookies never get the chance to work a third time, to learn how to do it. Yes, the numbers are up on the third time, and normally it is because the hitter has a better idea on how the pitcher plans to pitch to them. The best pitchers back in the day would set guys up for that third time through. They planned to face them a third time and would set up a hitter through first 2 at bats. The the third at bat the hitter would see something different normally. Now pitchers unload everything the first 2 times the hitters have a better idea of the plan against them and the pitcher does not adjust. Part of it is lack of good mix of pitches, but let the kids learn to pitch a third time through. With 2 outs, you walk Duran, and let Matthews face the righties and hopefully get the third out. It may not have worked out any better, but Matthews is hopefully a future starter for us and we will want him to learn to pitch deeper than the 4th inning.
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I had more of issue of putting Duran in game before. I get the argument of having your best reliever in there, or at least he should be our best, to even push to extras, but there is something about save situations that are different. LaTroy Hawkins was a great set up guy, but was not a very good closer. Something about those last outs made him not be as good, or hitters were better against. It is the mental thing. I would have rather seen the pitchers get reversed in use.
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The team is ending the season just as they started. They are not hitting with runners on base leaving way too many guys on, and their pen is just down right terrible. There is not 1 pitcher in the pen you feel like will shut down the opposing team right now. Really, the offense is the bigger issue in my opinion. You cannot expect pitchers to shut down every line up. We need to score more runs. Two of the losses against Cleveland we left way too many on base. What would be crazy is if we turn it on like we did end of April begging of May, but those were against terrible teams like White Sox, and not against teams trying to fight for playoffs. Even if we do make wild card we will most likely lose first 2 games and be done.
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There is also no reason to put him on 40 man until they are ready to call him up. He has 2 more years he can sit not on 40 man. I hope for his sake it does not take that long. He is limited in his defense which will hurt him, but if he can hit they will find a spot. I wonder if they will give him AFL assignment.
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I keep saying Eeles needs to be considered as someone to use next year. He has shown nothing but an ability to hit all year. Even shows some power for his size. I am not saying he will be Jose Altuve, but similar size and similar ability to hit and get on base.
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I think part of the injury issue is also teams having guys go on injury list more. I think back in the day guys would play hurt much more than they do now. I think teams would rather have a guy go on injury list for a week or two, one because how options work now, than before. The idea is if a guy is playing hurt, which reports were last year Ryan did, and AK has a few times not told team they were in pain. In years past a guys numbers would be down for the year, then we hear oh they were playing hurt for a long time. Now, guys maybe try for a game or two, Kepler, but then go on IL because their production is down. I do not know if injuries to position players are up from years past, or teams are just putting guys on the IL more. In the past, if you called a guy up from minors, I think even if it was to fill in for injury, they used up and option. Players only had so many options. Now, they have options years, and can go up and down as many times as you want in a single year. So less risk of calling up guys due to minor injuries or being in pain. In terms of pitchers, their numbers are up, but that is in part because I think they are doing things their bodies should not be doing for most guys and it leads to injuries.
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They really need to get a long term option figured out. I know many fans were upset the team did not dump much of the money they got in the TV deal into a FA. The problem is the team knew it was a 1 year deal, and they have no clue what next year and beyond looks like. Very few FA at the time were going to take a 1 year deal, and the team could not commit much to future years, with CC, Buck, and Lopez on books, and others going to be going into arb years soon. I have managed to watch this year because I have Spectrum, but most have not. I believe it did hurt the in person attendance to because if you are only checking scores you are not engaged in the team. They really need to find an long term option, whatever it is.
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3 Reasons the Twins Should Continue to Trust Jhoan Durán
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
He is still one of best pitchers on our team. What has been not great is his leaving way too many pitches in meat of the zone when up in the count. His fastball should almost never be in the lower half the zone when he is up in the count. You need it down there early in counts to make the splitter more of a chase pitch, but so often I have seen him leave a fastball thigh high with 2 strikes on a guy. They tend to just get the bat to ball and get a weaker contact hit, but a hit none the less. -
Eeles is 5'5" McCusker is 6'8" so yeah bit of a difference. Both were signed out of independent ball too. McCusker last year, he made big jump this year. Eeles this year. Both made huge jump to AAA. I know they are both older to be on the top prospects lists generally and not draft status, but both may make an impact next year. Both are limited on defense though.
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Hopefully E-Rod will get thumb looked at over offseason and whatever is the issue gets fixed and not a career altering thing. To be on the injured list 3 times for the same injury in a season is a big deal.
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Tipping Point: Twins Release 2024 Draft Pick for Pitch Tipping
Trov replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
So if his side is he wanted the season to end, he could have told the team he was gassed and needed a break. To intentionally try to lose games to end your season is just crazy. He may have had some good numbers on offense, but I do not know if any team will be willing to take him on now. You cannot trust him. He put himself above the team. With betting these days he would be the type of guy that would throw games for a gambler. -
Twins fully control their fate. If they can win series down the stretch they will take the wild card. They need to take care of business against the Reds, then hopefully minimal split against Cleveland, win the sox series and it should be locked in after that. We can have a good bounce back against Miami if needed, and the last series against Baltimore will be interesting match up at that point. Baltimore may be trying to win division and a bye, or setting up for first round matchup, which depending on how things play out, could be against the Twins.
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If it takes cured meats being tossed around to get them to score some runs down the stretch do it. Sometimes it is something like that that pushes the team into a different space. The Angels in their last WS win had the rally monkey. Other teams come up with stuff. If we can rally behind it and go deep into playoffs it will become stuff of legends.
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Buck's Back: Twins To Activate Byron Buxton on Friday
Trov replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I have no clue how much pain Buck is or will be in. The question is will him playing through pain be better than his replacement? Buck getting hurt running bases is not new either, which is why when there was push to give him days off as DH to help him stay healthy I pushed back saying he gets hurt hitting and running bases more than fielding. Hopefully he can play well enough to help push us past the finish line. -
"We should start our own channel and bring everyone with us like the yes network for the Yankees." This was attempted many years ago. It flopped because they did not have the clout to force cable and satellite providers to be in basic packages. At the time, Fox who owned the regional broadcasting area of FSN, forced the local cable to only allow Victory to be on a higher pay, or not carried at all, because they would have pull fox broadcasting not just FSN. They tried to get gophers on board, but now they have big 10 network. They did not get Wolves or Wild on board because no one could see Victory. So it all failed. Trying to start one up again at this point would be terrible situation. It costs a lot of money to start this up, and broadcasting is in a strange era. Most people are tying to cut cords, so cable is not willing to pay big for regional sports channels because not a ton of demand for it, as people are finding ways around it. The team would be not likely to get Wolves or Wild to join in right now because their media rights would be too much for a small start up broadcasting channel to afford, unless they partnered with them, but right now Wolves do not even know who will be owning them soon. Point is, starting up a channel is not so easy and it was tried year ago and flopped terribly.
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