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  1. You go to believe they are going to do something to try to get back to the WS. The off-season is always interesting but this off-spring has a lot of high profile guys that are either old or have been hurt. Plus some of the high budget teams have a ton of money coming off the books. Plus, the Yankees reset their cap. Oh yah, then there is the CBA.
  2. I noticed that too. Peraza is already at AAA but Volpe looks good. They are definitely trade bait of they sign Seager. They have not been a big factor lately. Will they be impatient and look to build through free agency or are they learning that approach is not all that effective even with their budget. In other words, do you think they sign one of the big FA SSs?
  3. I agree in concept. In reality, the Astros have 88M coming off their payroll. I guess it's possible they hand the job to Pedro Leon but you would not think a WS team would do that after letting Springer go. The Dodgers have about the same coming off and the Yankees need a SS. Landing one of those top SS is not going to be extremely difficult if these top markets decide they want to sign them. What about trading Arraez for a SS and signing Escobar to replace Arreaz or Bean's idea of signing Escobar for SS until Lewis or Palacios is ready?
  4. For me it all comes down to will Lewis stick at SS. I don't think even the Twins inner circle has a real great read on this because he has not played in a year and there are questions on both sides of the ball. Here is another thought ... If they try Escobar and he does not stick, is there any chance Palacios is ready/capable for an audition at the ML level? Could he be plan B? What if the sign Escobar and trade Arraez for a near ready SS or a SS being blocked? Interesting possibilities with your idea.
  5. I have no idea if he can still play short but this is a very creative and interesting idea.
  6. The Twins are not trading a prospect of any consequence for a player with 1 year of control. That would be extremely short sighted and this FO has not demonstrated any short-sighted tendencies.
  7. You make a good point. I am in the small minority that would approach 2022 as a retool year. It's just not realistic to believe they can put together a contender over the winter unless they really gut the farm system and even then it would be questionable. I am of the belief they will be considerably better positioned in 2023 with such an approach. That's an unpopular view and who knows how it plays out. I would be real happy if the Pohlads threw money at the problem but that's not realistic.
  8. I don't see any obsession. There are not any 29 year old healthy stud SPs out there. Robbie Ray has not exactly been a steady performer but I guess he might qualify. Stroman is steady but not spectacular. I guess Gausman would be the other guy we would want long term. One of those three would be nice. Now we just have to beat out Houston with $88M coming off the books, the Dodgers with about the same coming off not counting their deadline acquisitions, the Mets with $75M coming off, and the Mariners and Indians who have extremely low payrolls, and of course the Yankees.
  9. I am with you in terms of prioritizing a SS but reality set in when I started looking who had money to spend and how much. The national radio shows on satellite radio are buzzing about Seager going to the Yankees so I think you nailed that one. There are some SS prospects that are blocked. Maybe we can trade for one.
  10. Yep and just think about the competition for him. The Astros and Dodgers each have almost $90M expiring and that does not count the players the Dodgers got after the deadline. The Mets have $75M expiring. The Mariners are siting at something like $60M in salary including their arbitration players and they looked like a team about to enter a window of contention. Plus, their FO has already said they are looking to spend. Then, we have the Yankees who have not been nearly as relevant in the post season the last decade. They could go nuts too. Cleveland could spend $75M too if they were so inclined.
  11. He will be 38. The odds just are not good that he is the next Nelson Cruz. Odds are he will be replacement level by then. I would bet Miranda will be a considerably more valuable player in 2024 and the $7M can always be used for a BP arm.
  12. Here is the part I don't understand ... what math? How much math or financial acumen does it take to understand that a team with a hundred or two hundred million of incremental revenue is probably going to outbid the other team. More importantly, isn't it really obvious that a team that can only spend half as much has to get double the production per dollar spent. We should want our team to spend wisely for the very simple reason that it's imperative to the success of below average revenue. The owners are wildly rich therefore they should break even or take a loss makes me nuts. This is where just a little financial acumen is required. If all of the owners took that tact, it would change absolutely nothing in terms of the revenue disparity. It would actually increase the gap between big and small markets because large markets make a larger profit. Therefore, small markets would be at an even bigger disadvantage in signing premier FAs. We would need for the Pohlad's and the Pohlad's only to break-even or take a loss and we would still be at a significant disadvantage financially when compared to top markets .
  13. Sorry, I thought there was a message here. There is lots of financial info available. The point is that most people just ignore it or more to the point act as if the revenue disparity is not a big obstacle . I don't know how much more we need to know to determine the amount of incremental revenue one team has over another which is a where this started. We know exactly how much teams spend on players and there are even sources that give percentage of payroll data. The percentage of payroll is not a foreign concept by any means. I seems some fans just don't subscribe to the theory it matters.
  14. This provides revenue and some ratios. What are you attempting to prove with this graph?
  15. I am not sure what this graph represents but I doubt it's revenue given the Yankees are near the bottom.
  16. This has been proven untrue but even if it was true ... who is most able to pay the highest price? A team with $300M in revenue like the Twins or a team with $600M like the Yankees or Dodgers or even a team with a mere $100M advantage like the Phillies? It just astounds me that fans continue to complain that teams with far less revenue get outbid with teams with far more revenue. If you want to ignore the basic ability to pay. How is it not apparent that teams with half the revenue need to get twice the production per dollar spent. It's not as if we don't have examples of success in Tampa and Oakland. Spending in the same manner as large market teams is a guarantee of failure. Of course, any response to this question will not address the question of who is most able to pay.
  17. Twins are a prime candidate for SPs looking to bounce back. We have the rotation openings. However, it won't be guys looking for $20M.
  18. How am I focused on a 2-3 year plan? This is a real good example of my earlier statement that any plan that looks beyond next year is a 3+ year plan. I very clearly laid out a 1 year plan. Taking one year to develop pitching and transition to Miranda in. Any of these moves focused only on the present can be done next year. The difference is there is a very good chance we can establish a home grown rotation that can serve us for several years years. It gives us a chance to transition Donaldson out and Miranda in a year where we are very unlikely to contend. And, the part you don't seem to grasp is that we would have far more payroll availability to fill out a roster. This need for the right now is a good way to stay mediocre for a long time. Take a look around. What did Chicago and Seattle do with similar teams? How did Houston become a powerhouse? What are the Cubs about to do? Then, look at the Phillies and Mets who have employed the strategy you suggest. How are they doing? This team is not contending next year short of a miracle so I would much rather win 80 games instead of 84 while pursuing practices that have a real chance of producing a contender.
  19. You don't understand how the Dodgers and Rays are examples of teams that actually made big investments and therefore "went for it" You don't see how that is in stark contrast to Atlanta's approach? Go a little beyond one post and consider this thread. You are not trying top hard and I certainly did not mean to imply you would judge the FO in this way. I thought I was pretty clear in that there were a number of people that would crucify the FO. How does that indict you? Pretty touchy, Mike. I was not criticizing you in the least. Just pointing out that your post was fair in a bubble but not reflective of expectations on this site.
  20. Maybe the Twins should rebuild but that's another question. There are a lot of people here who keep insisting anything other than a complete focus on next year will necessitate a rebuild. Just look at the role young pitchers played in the playoffs this year. We already have two young pitchers prove to be quite effective. Ober came along way in 20 starts. They could "retool" in one year so I wish people would quit the drama of portraying it as a rebuild. Here is what they could do between 2022 and 2023. Invest innings in the multitude of pitching prospects that are ready or will become ready during 2022. Move some of those prospects to the BP Trade Donaldson / Free up dollars for 2023 Decline Sano's option next year Bring up Miranda to replace Donaldson. Establish a couple of Martin / Larnach / Celestino and maybe even Lewis. It would not hurt to give Rooker a last chance. Get Maeda back Trade Arraez + assets for whatever we need to round out the roster. Perhaps a SS if Lewis bombs. Use the payroll flexibility provided by establishing internal pitching (ie Berrios) or whatever the greatest need is in 2023. Use some of that money to extend Buxton. There would also be money available next year for a SS (IE Anderson) if Lewis bombs and we cant trade for one. This is a very realistic 1 year retool so can we quit insisting the Twins will have to rebuild if they don't plug every hole in 2022?
  21. That does not seem like the rotation of a contender unless one of the kids emerges as an Ace. The Twins followed this type of patchwork roster management under the previous regime. They put together teams that we OK and were never willing to pursue a path that had a real shot at producing a contender. This plan looks to me like it would produce a pretty good team for the next 2-3 years but the only way it becomes a contender is if the prospects step up. So, invest those innings in 2022 with prospects gaining experience and proving which ones belong instead of dragging the process into 2023. This strategy might be OK If we had an elite offense and shutdown BP. We have neither.
  22. This is a fair take in isolation. In the context of expectation / demands of posters here it's just not at a realistic portrayal of what going for it means to many here. Can you honestly say that people would not be crucifying our FO if the Twins made the same type of moves while in a season where they had a realistic shot? The entire premise of this thread is that Atlanta "went for it" which is a rather twisted view of reality. The invested almost nothing. The Dodgers and the Rays invested and failed. The Braves invested nothing and won the WS. To portray this as "see what happens when you go for it" is preposterous. Do I agree the Braves did the right thing. Of course, they did not just roll over when they got hit with injuries. They also found a couple of unusual opportunities in Rosario and Soler. Two guys who had been sucking but we all know have the capability of impacting a series. What are the odds that pans out but it did.
  23. You really need to pay a little attention to real life examples. The White Sox traded away far more than Berrios. Where are they now. Boston (even with their revenue) let Betts go. How are they doing? The Mariners cleaned house and now are poised to be in contention for several year. The Padres went all in and it blew up in their face. Maybe Darvish and Snell will perform better next year but Snell had one great year and several mediocre seasons. Darvish was terrible the 2nd half. Meanwhile Patino looks like he could be better than Snell over his career. If that does not clear things up for you .... Take a look at the Rays who obviously have less resource than the Twins and far less than their division rivals. They traded away Adames mid-season while leading the division. When they traded away Blake Snell and the reaction around baseball was similar to your reaction. They are far better positioned because of that trade. Perhaps more to the point they trade away established players all the time and have thrived by understanding the value of years of control and cost controlled players. They continue to add complimentary players because they understand these principals.
  24. I am hoping for an upgrade but I would not refuse to watch them. His ABs are roughly 5% of the show so I am not denying myself baseball because I don't like one of the players. However, I agree with you in that I can't stand watching his ABs. I record the game and let it get ahead. Then, just FF through the commercials, pitching changes, and certain ABs.
  25. So replacing Simmons with a rookie will cost us 11 games?
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