Jocko87
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Why do I get the feeling they are planning on more bullpen innings this year compared to last?
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I'm just amazed at Flavine having the stones to say, in addition to that $6 m we are going to need an extra A ball reliever. It's like taking a handful of candy on the way out the door when you close your bank account.
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If I'm reading this correctly, for two years of Polo we got 1 year of a back end starter, 4 years of a serviceable reliever, a top 100 RH outfield prospect and a throw in A ball non-prospect. Plus money. They don't acquire pitchers they don't think they can improve, RH outfielders are a black hole in the system and they were trading from a spot where everyone knew they had to do something. Not bad. It also isn't a move that ends Varlands starting career either. DeS... is a very flipable asset too. They ain't done. I like it.
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Twins Daily 2024 Top Prospects: #16-20
Jocko87 replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
But having two guys who barely pitched all year ranked over SWR is a bit of a stretch, especially when SWR finished the year strong. I'm as hopeful for Prielipp as anyone but 34 innings since high school should not be putting him on any prospect lists. If he actually pitches, he will shoot up the lists fast enough. SWR has a chance to be an MLB contributor this year at the same age as Prielipp who had a small bit of success at low A. Just because SWR has been around for a long time shouldn't change the outlook, he's still a 23 year old knocking on the door. Prielipp may have more upside but a vanishing small chance of realizing it. I'm ranking SWR higher every time. The same applies to Canterino.- 19 replies
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On the other hand, Boras doesn't usually rep a lot of future insurance agents. The bottom end of the distribution is not his business because he doesn't operate there. Others do, and should be more open to these type of contracts.
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This is as expected I would think. My theory is that they knew the plica needed to go mid season but they also were doing everything they could to avoid surgery during the season. Sure, hope springs eternal, but this is miles ahead of last years optimism. The knee is probably good to go, hopefully the rest holds together.
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Milwaukee is absolutely taking another shot this year but a Burnes/Hoskins combo platter at the deadline might be nice. I caught this interview live, just after Bowden went on another 5 minute rant about Mauer not being a half of famer, and Thad is pretty good at saying nothing. One thing that was interesting was the firmness he spoke about Brooks Lee. He will start at AAA, no surprise, and come up when he shows he's ready and be in the mix for enough playing time with the current roster to be a regular. He wasn't exactly breaking news but something about how firm he said contrasted with the rest of the coach speak.
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And it makes me wonder what he learned in the pen that can be brought back to starting. I've long been a fan of getting starter prospects ML innings in the pen, for the same reason i want kids to play all the sports rather than specializing on one at 12 or 13. The muscles used are different and a stronger overall body should portend a more durable athlete once a specialty is chosen. Learning how to let it fly in relief may or may not translate. I certainly want to see what he can do as a starter. Even if he doesn't quite show that he is ready for a post season start this year, he can still make progress towards that mark. A trade at the deadline instead of now helps this all develop. Putting him in the pen because they trade for another starter would be disheartening because it would indicate what they feel his starter upside is. I'd like them to keep him in AAA starting in that case.
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2024 Prospect Previews: Luke Keaschall
Jocko87 replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Honestly, I think that's part of the plan. Keep flipping them for pitching. I like the gamer description, I love a player in the Dozier Pedroia mold. It's also the word I used to describe Schobel in the small sample I've seen here in Wichita. Dude just looks like a ball player. Hopefully Keashall is the same. There is a market for those guys. -
This right here. Maybe a month from now he'll need a one year spot for someone that fits. Helping him out from time to time might not get a discount for Royce but it will help him want to have creative conversations.
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On the topic at hand, I don't think he gave away anything. That was much more us guys at the bar saying "we gotta make a move, we always do, right?" than inside information. He would bet on it, but so would most of us. Along with him discussing how involved he is in the decisions I took it as hopeful rather than informing. We should have an article about his thinly vieled hints to the front office any day now. On the whole it was a very fun discussion to watch, I hadn't seen that side if him before and the leadership stuff was fantastic. I was thinking Kepler the whole time he talked about some discussions in his office.
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Nick Gordon is avaliable to make room. Gordon is a couple of years further down the path of former first rounder trying to figure it out but once the options are gone the roster fit is tough. All of a sudden they are very similar players too. Different skill sets and pathes to success but Bubba has a singular skill we know can be a weapon swings RH and has options.
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Was just stopping by to mention Tavares. I'm assuming he can function in center as a minimum. I don't have any issues with this move, at least he has at least one elite skill that can play. He's ahead of Gordon on my personal depth chart already. I bet he sticks around, there will be many things that come up to effect the 40 man in the next few months. Right handed hitting outfielders that can play center field is a very weak area of the Twins system. It's not a bad fit and as a former first round pick with two options it's not a bad pickup. Ideally he's in St Paul all year figuring some things out and available for the postseason pinch runner role. Worst case, he's playing decent centerfield and not hitting a lick when all the other options are failing.
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I'm no longer expecting anything until someone springs an ACL in spring training, at the earliest. The Twins are also taking that risk obviously, but they can also afford to be patient. A lot can change once injures start rolling in. If something happens earlier, I'll just be pleasantly surprised.
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With 2 options remaining and some base stealing ability it wouldn't be crazy. If he's a stud defender I'd say go for it, the options would put him over Gordon in my book. There were long stretches of the season last year where anyone hitting right handed with a functional glove would have gotten run in the outfield.
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I'm kinda dumbfounded at this. I'll just respond with this, millionaires may try to torpedo these deals to get out of them but billionaires make those deals knowing they are going to change them. It's not a difference in money, rather mindset. This whole discussion is crazy, we all realize the difference between a million and a billion right?
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Concerns That Starting Pitcher Trade Market Has Stalled
Jocko87 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Meh, that's about as nuts as I get. I realize I'm one of but a few voices of reason and I'm cool with that. I'm pretty confident that even had they spent money in the bad years it would have been spent badly so its kinda a wash. This is a new front office who seems more than happy to spend the last penny allocated and ask for more. You can look at it any way you want. I say the spend for this year happened last year in Correa and Lopez. I remember making Kirby Puckett the highest paid player in the game (for a few weeks), Joe Mauer the highest paid catcher ever (for ten years) and 2 of the top 15 all time AAV contracts in baseball history in the last two years. All of that spend was critiqued widely so in a no win situation what would you do? Hold the line. They are doing the right thing. -
Concerns That Starting Pitcher Trade Market Has Stalled
Jocko87 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I posited that as possibly the correct strategy for the Twins this year in another post. I think it has merit, especially considering the way the market is looking. Get more info on our prospects and young pitchers, more pitchers come available as teams fall out of contention and prices are cheaper, in dollars certainly but prospects as well. They have enough to win the division now. As for the market as a whole, we should probably stop looking at it as a guy here and a guy there holding up the market. The elephant in the room is standing on our chests. League payroll is trending to at best break even if not be down year over year. We are dead in the middle of a standoff, maybe even a full reset of the economics of the sport and people want to talk about Josh Hader holding up the market? Crazytown. I keep seeing "self-imposed" used with payroll limitations and it drives me nuts. "Hey lil Johnny, your dad got a 25% paycut at work with no short term way to pick up any more shifts so we are "self-imposing" a limit on our baseball this season. We can still play in the yard but no travel ball, OK?" "But mom, what about your cigarettes and vodka?" "This is about future spend, not contracted spend, Johnny, it's different." -
2024 Minnesota Twins Top 15 Prospects
Jocko87 commented on Ted Schwerzler 's blog entry in Off The Baggy
I don't disagree on some pitching heavy drafts but for position players outside of an occasional catcher I'm not drafting anyone who wasn't a "shortstop" or "centerfielder" at some point. The positions sort down, not up. That's what makes the Aaron Saboto pick so confusing. He was always stuck to one position at best and they miss judged a college bat badly which seems in their wheelhouse. A defensively limited draft pick has so many less ways to be a contributor in the long run. That one tool better be special.- 57 comments
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How Valuable Can Austin Martin be to the 2024 Twins?
Jocko87 replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Looking at the current roster he probably has to beat out Gordon to break camp. If Gordon is around he will get that spot but I'm still expecting Gordon to move. After that, its him or Miranda and Martin should win out on position flexibility. Very curious to see what he can do, -
Make a Valiant Effort to Avoid Shortsightedness
Jocko87 replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The alternate title of the piece could be "Don't let impatient fans goad you into a shortsighted moves." The Dodgers just executed a brilliant two plus year plan to sign everything important at once. Dodgers daily was certainly on fire over passing on Judge and a dozen others. The situations are certainly completely different but I'm sick to death of the self imposed modifier of the payroll issues. The point is that they have a plan, same as the Dodgers. They have a roster that can easily win the division and certainly aren't done with their offseason. It should also be noted that league wide payroll is trending down. A reset is needed and they need to be getting all kinds of kudos for them being in a position to weather the reset strongly. Their system isn't much I'm interested on the open market anyway. Just because there's no good candy left doesn't mean we still have to take a piece.- 66 replies
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I’m also more concerned about the mention AKs shoulder than anything bringing Arraez back to Minnesota. The real angle we should be looking at is that Arraez being on the market probably affects the Twins market looking to trade Polo or whoever. If I’m a GM looking for a bat, I’m giving Arraez a very long look before I traded for Polo. Arraez is pretty close to perfect fit in Seattle.
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No. Stop. Please? I realize it’s the quiet offseason and all but satire is for Friday’s. I don’t know what it will take for this fan base to ever let anyone get away but we don’t live in that world anymore. The Marlins being ok with moving him just makes that trade better and better. It also further illuminates what some were saying at the time-you don’t build a franchise around a single skill player. No matter how good that skill is. Then, bring him back to where? Who is losing time for him? We could have weekly articles about how bad we miss Julien or Lee? Wait til you hear what Cincy is thinking about CES. It’s ok for the stove to go cool for a while. It’s ok for the website to have a few less articles when the temp is below zero.

