Shopping in the White Sox Castoff Bin

Easily a hard pass on all three of those players. 

I seriously doubt the Twins could call someone up who would do worse than any of those. 

Giolito is the best the Twins can hope for in a free agent SP.  I'd go for a deal in the ballpark of 3 years/$45 mil. 

If the bidding for Giolito (and similar SP talent) pushes $20 mil+ and/or 4 years+, we may be settling for Kenta Maeda as our best option. 

Just like me, the Twins are on a budget!

27 minutes ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

I would absolutely bring on Hendricks for his presence/personality in 2024, and I'd sign him to a 2 year deal so he could be pitching in 2025. That would be the hope.

I would also absolutely bring on Giolito. I know there is another thread on this, but I feel as if there is a playoff caliber starter in there, and he will be an awful lot cheaper had he not had the last 2 months of production in 2023 after both A) Getting divorced and B) getting traded. 

I also would love it if the Twins kicked the tires to see if Chicago would be open to trading Michael Kopech. He was terrible production wise in 2023, but the arm talent is in there too. Just wanted to add that.

Tim Anderson on the other hand, I will him well, but I don't see a place here.

Would love to get a Michael Kopech, Big fastball and arm talent.  A sweeper would do him wonders. I’m guessing the Sox are willing to give up on him and they absolutely won’t trade him to a division rival..

Giolito is growing on me. If Twins think they can tweak thing and get him on track.  He would be a guy you Identify early, need to get him signed and into work with some of our staff and teammates.

Liam Hendriks on the flip side would be a guy of late in the offseason he is still a free agent and you have $ to spend (get a better TV revenue deal then we think) bring him in on a reasonable 2 year deal.

The problem is the front office basically said they aren’t spending any $ until the finance situation get worked out.  Otherwise there budget is what’s on the book.

The last time we signed a former whiteys pitcher, he blew so many saves that it was almost as if he was doing it on purpose. Lets not do that again. 

12 minutes ago, Fatbat said:

The last time we signed a former whiteys pitcher, he blew so many saves that it was almost as if he was doing it on purpose. Lets not do that again. 

I think that pitcher was drawing 2 salaries ...

Nah.

Hard no on Anderson, zero interest.

No on Giolito unless he is a cheap vet back end of the rotation add, he is not as bad as he was last year for sure but he also is not as good as he was at his peak.  He used to get so much use out of the high changeup, a ****** pitch that no one was looking for to be thrown intentionally.

Hendriks would be cool because of the history but I can't remember a club signing a free agent reliever to a "get better from tj" multiyear contract yet.  I think that play works better for starters you can get excess value from.

They would never trade him to us but I would like to see what this pitching lab could do with Cease.

Ditto Cory Englehart.  I'd be interested in Giolito at the right price.  Is that 3 years $12-13 million per year?  Probably.  $15 million for 3 years seems JUST a BIT too high.  But pitching is going to be at such a premium for so many teams that $15 per season might end up being a bargain.

Kopech has always intrigued me.  I see such great raw stuff but it just doesn't translate to production.  But for an arm like that, I'd be willing to gamble.  Kopech is 28 y/o with a negative -3.6 value.  Edgar Quero is a 20 y/o catching prospect they are high on, but other than him, the White Sox have very little at the major league level for catchers.  Maybe you could swap Vazquez in a package for Kopech and promote Camargo saving $9-$10 million??? 

Nothing seems to fit. Much rather sign someone like Wacha than Giolito. 

Regarding trading with them, they really don't seem to have much in their system that we'd be interested in. A shame, as I think we could toss a couple players their way that they'd like, and we could shave salary. They've needed a RF for ages. Kepler? Farmer could be their short term veteran SS. Maybe Vasquez at C...any of these, toss in a couple minor leaguers to maybe pry a pitcher from them. Beyond that, I don't see any moves with White Sox players, current or castoffs.

21 hours ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

I would absolutely bring on Hendricks for his presence/personality in 2024, and I'd sign him to a 2 year deal so he could be pitching in 2025. That would be the hope.

I would also absolutely bring on Giolito. I know there is another thread on this, but I feel as if there is a playoff caliber starter in there, and he will be an awful lot cheaper had he not had the last 2 months of production in 2023 after both A) Getting divorced and B) getting traded. 

I also would love it if the Twins kicked the tires to see if Chicago would be open to trading Michael Kopech. He was terrible production wise in 2023, but the arm talent is in there too. Just wanted to add that.

Tim Anderson on the other hand, I will him well, but I don't see a place here.

My response to the 3 players mentioned is no, no & no.

I don't know, I mean Giolito wasn't terrible before he got traded.  I mean he went 6 - 6 with a 3.79 era with a crappy white Sox team.  121 innings with 131 K's in like 20 starts.  So the Twins could do a lot worse than Giolito.  Granted his 2 - 9 after the trade is not good, in fact really bad.  But it raises the question why did he fall off the cliff?  Might not be stuff related.  Could be other factors where he was just not at his best.  Again if he is not expensive then I think he'd be a decent #4 behind Pablo Lopez, Joe Ryan, and Bailey Over.  Now if you guys think he or the Twins are going to get someone to lead the rotation, well keep dreaming.  The Twins are going to sign a #4 or 5 to add depth.  To me Giolito is a good get at #4 spot in the rotation.