Twins Top 20 Trade Value Series: 11-20

I hope other teams believe Marco Raya is as valuable as you!!! He is the guy I would build any deal around would be amazing if Raya and Gonzolez could get you a controllable starter.

Keaschall is an exciting prospect but is not a 5 tool player. Neither his arm or glove would grade out highly enough to be considered 5 tool. 
 

I too would consider SWR more valuable than Festa. 

It's weird to think that the Twins have a surfeit of talent that can be traded for high-quality players without impairing The Process*. It's been many years since this was true. The challenge will be the value of the player brought in -- and I'm considerably skeptical that Falvine will get it right. Trades and free agents remain an Achilles heel for them. Granted, they're doing well in nearly every other aspect.

(*If I had another way to describe it, I would use it instead.)

What are we trading for?  I still do not see a need outside of maybe a reliever.  and I think that is pushing it.  We have 5 solid starters and 2 prospects ready in AAA with Zebby almost the third prospect ready to go.  If not for Wallner and Larnarch maybe a LF.  if not for Lee, Farmer, and Castro and Julien in AAA we could get a 2B like Polanco.  or a DH like JD Martinez but I doubt the Mets are sellers and we still have Miranda and Lewis and Buxton needing to rotate through DH and probably Correa with the foot issue popping back up again too.  so I don't see where else we would trade for someone and I am reaching with what I proposed above.  

10 hours ago, Linus said:

Keaschall is an exciting prospect but is not a 5 tool player. Neither his arm or glove would grade out highly enough to be considered 5 tool. 
 

I too would consider SWR more valuable than Festa. 

He said that Keashall showed off his 5 tool skillset,, not that he had them 

We need a reliable lefty reliever and another starter depending on how high one is on Paddack. 

14 hours ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

I'd rank SWR above Festa only because he has proven it at the MLB level.

I would rank SWR above everyone else on the list. Competent starting pitching is the scarcest talent in MLB.

It is funny that your highlight for Marco Raya shows Pierson Ohl clearly outperformed him in that particular game.

I think we need a TOR starter. Like someone said above, we have five starting pitchers in our rotation now. Sure that's true, but I don't think Paddack or maybe even SWR should be starting playoff games. Our rotation now should be good enough to get us to the playoffs, but if we want to actually win a series, we'll need an ace or number 2 type starter. And a good lefty for the pen. If a team out there has a starter with control or a good lefty reliever, we should build a package around Festa, Raya, Gonzalez, maybe AK or Larnach.

6 hours ago, bean5302 said:

The Twins desperately need an ace. They don't have one, and if they want to advance in the playoffs, they likely need one. Solid starters get you to the postseason, and swept right back out of it. Last year is the very first time the Twins entered the playoffs in the last decade with a strong 1-2 in Gray and Lopez. 

Right now, I don't feel comfortable going up against opponents top 3 starters with our guys.
 

This has been a constant refrain on Twins Daily and it is fair. My thought is always the same - who would you trade for and what is the proposed player(s) going the other way? For example, if you wanted Crochet from the White Sox, what is the bundle of players that would entice the CWS to agree?

Count me as a person who has a fair amount of trust in Lopez, Ryan, and Ober to compete in the postseason. I'm more concerned with the bats and fielding. 

However, I am still a fan of adding an ace to the pitching staff. I just don't believe people would accept the cost. More importantly, the Twins are unlikely to pay the price.

10 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

It's hard to gauge the cost of Snell, but a 6-10 and a 11-15 type should get it done. Not sure what SF would target as their primary interest. 

Aaron Gleeman has a new list up at The Athletic. I'm not sure what SF would target, but I think they want more than we expect. The Giants are also not expected to be sellers. Finally, the financial risk associated with Snell may be beyond the limit for the Twins. 

Still, I like the idea of Snell pitching for the Twins. Would Charlee Soto and Andrew Morris get Snell?

I'm still guessing that an added starting pitcher needs to come with years of control. A good relief pitcher as a rental makes sense. Also, what would it cost to add Randy Arozarena? He also butts up against the budget however.

My problem with trading for an ace type starter is that it would only be a rental.  The Twins will not pay the price of a multi-year ace type starter plus the trade pieces would be extremly high.  A rental type starter would also be pretty costly but I wouldn't want to trade any pitching prospects.  If we could get a top pitching rental for pieces that we have deep positional depth, then maybe but I just don't see it happening.  Those pitchers are going to have many suiters.  I am betting that the Twins will go into the post-season with Lopez, Ryan, and Ober and hope for the best.  Good trade pieces in my opinion, would maybe be Julien, Keaschal, Gonzalez, Larnach, Kirilloff, Winkour and lesser prospects from infield and outfield.  I just don't see us getting a top pitcher for some of these guys.  Off limits would be our top prospects Lee, Rodriguez, Walker, Lewis.  Trade deadline should be very interesting for a lot of teams, I just don't think the Twins will be one of them.

3 hours ago, JD-TWINS said:

Is there a NEED for a reliever or is it just the only plausible flaw? (other than starter depth)

Can we really improve with a no option veteran via trade…….that’s going to pitch better than what we have, for sure?

Yes, they can find a lefty better than Thielbar/Okert/Funderburk

21 hours ago, Linus said:

Keaschall is an exciting prospect but is not a 5 tool player. Neither his arm or glove would grade out highly enough to be considered 5 tool. 
 

I too would consider SWR more valuable than Festa. 

5 tool player is such a dumb statistic when you think about it.  Teams seem to ignore the speed part the most. I would love to see more small ball. Players that know how to run the bases and can actually laydown a bunt for a hit. Such a lost art and if a team would exploit it they could dominate since most catchers are terrible at throwing out runners. along with pitchers knowing how to hold runners as well. 

9 hours ago, Heiny said:

Off limits would be our top prospects Lee, Rodriguez, Walker, Lewis. 

You may be correct but then you also must realize that adding a good starting pitcher is not happening. What is the saying .... you have to give to get.

Where's Zebby?

2 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

You may be correct but then you also must realize that adding a good starting pitcher is not happening. What is the saying .... you have to give to get.

Finish reading the post.  That's exactly what I am saying.