Should Minnesota Twins Revisit Alleged Joe Ryan Trade Package With Boston Red Sox?

[Heiny]

At this point, the Twins seem to be so confused as to what they are doing(they don't seem to have an idea) that there can really be no surprise no matter what they do.  If they are going to tear it down, then by all means tear it down!  If they are not tearing it down, then they should be trying to compete.  It doesn't look like they are going in either direction, but tearing it down looks more likely.  In that case, trade anyone to improve for the future.  That includes Ryan, Lopez, Lee, Walner, Larnach and anybody else that does not seem to be a solid fit for the future.  We have some strong prospects at OF and SS.  But honestly, who knows what the hell they're doing?  The "only thing" that I am 100% certain of is that Rocco sucks, Falvey blows, and the Pohlads could afford a great team if they wanted one.

And as far as the 2027 lockout goes,  they have a full year to get an agreement done without further damaging the the integrity of the game.  Will they?  Hell no.  Disgusting to say the least.

[The Great Hambino]

1 hour ago, Ricky Vaughn said:

I think one of Lopez/Ryan will be traded. I prefer to keep Pablo as a mentor to all the young guys. I have one question. I keep seeing people referring to cutting payroll before a lockout in 2027. What difference does it make? If there is a lockout no one is getting paid anyway so it doesn't hurt the owners bottom line. 

I don't think they're worried about expenses during the lockout.  The thinking is that ownership is banking on some significant changes to player salary structure and revenue sharing that will work in the Twins' favor from both revenue and franchise valuation standpoints.  If things break that way, it would benefit them whether they want to actually try to compete again or perhaps bring the team back to market.  But those conditions are very uncertain, and throwing money at uncertainty is not something the Pohlads are likely interested in doing.

In the meantime, there's no realistic path to competing before the CBA negotiations/lockout.  In that sense, any increased spending before then is ultimately a waste.  And with limited partners now expecting a return on their investment, the clearest path to doing so on a short-term basis is by cutting payroll to the bone and coasting on the guaranteed income streams from national media and revenue sharing.

Given all that, it seems like they're taking a path where a potential contention window could open up post-CBA, and their spending will be kept to a minimum until then.  A fan's hope is that the dust settles with an environment where they're incentivized to compete on a more level playing field (or, more accurately, they're no longer incentivized to be cheap) and franchise values rise enough with the new structure and subsequent media contracts that some buyer can meet the Pohlads' number and we can be relieved of their services.  That's my hope, anyway.

[Ricky Vaughn]

Thanks, that makes sense.

[Scott51104]

second-ranked prospect Jhostynxon Garcia (right-handed hitting outfielder)

 

Does Dan Gladden get to vote on trade options?

[old nurse]

On 9/22/2025 at 4:27 PM, Jacksson said:

If you deal with the Giants, the Giants would have to OVERPAY Big Time to make up for the shellacking the Twins got in the 2019 trade for Sam Dyson and the 2021 trade for Shaun Anderson.  Stay away from the Orioles also = remember the Jorge Lopez trade?

The players traded for Dyson amounted to replacement level players. That is hardly a shellacking, more like nothing for nothing. Lamont had a couple good years, but he was practically a bat only player. 

[Twins33]

On 9/23/2025 at 4:01 AM, JADBP said:

Remember, he was told he was traded then Oops, sorry, never mind.  And Varland was traded.  Makes no sense.  

Just a slight correction to this, but Ryan was never “told” he was traded. He either saw the incorrect report on Twitter or on tv when he was sitting with Jax. 
 

Jon Morosi said something like “the Red Sox are making a late push for Ryan.” Nearly immediately, like within one minute of Morosi saying that, Fox Sports MLB said “Ryan to the Red Sox per Morosi.” Morosi never said anything close to that. Whoever runs, or hopefully ran (in the past tense) can’t read which caused all the confusion involving Ryan. It never should have happened. 

[Paul Walerius]

I would say no.   Attendance is already going to take a hit unless they do spend.  Gotta go with what they have right now.   I do believe they can compete.

[Fred]

On 9/22/2025 at 2:27 PM, Whitey333 said:

That's all there is hype and hope.  These can't miss prospects ts almost always miss in Twins land.  I e been duped too often by this Falvey/Baldelli regime.  They both need to go.  In any case unless something majorly good for the Twins in the off seasonlook for even .ore empty seats at Target field in 2026.  If they let Baldelli go but keep Falvey you are going to get a clone of Baldelli.  Get rid of them both!!

 

 

 

 

 

I hear that Joe Pohlad and Derek Falvey are pretty tight, so, I expect to see a "clone" of Baldelli. Someone has to be the sacrificial lamb; good bye, Rocco.

[Historyking88]

As much as Tolle would be a great addition. I would rather have a package of something like Early and Witherspoon. 
 

Otherwise shoot for the moon and see if Phillies are willing to give up Painter for Ryan with the future of Wheeler being a giant question mark. 

[NYCTK]

On 9/22/2025 at 5:25 PM, tony&rodney said:

Someone mentioned Peralta and Gray. The former is on an inexpensive bargain deal, which means he isn't going anywhere.

Bumping this to say whoever said Peralta might be on the trade market is a prophet. :-) 

[NYCTK]

On 9/22/2025 at 5:25 PM, tony&rodney said:

Someone mentioned Peralta and Gray. The former is on an inexpensive bargain deal, which means he isn't going anywhere. Gray, the latter, isn't going anywhere either because he is due $35M next year and he has a full no trade provision in his contract.

Checking in on this, I was 2 for 2 actually. 

I'm not just some dummy!