Vikings Offseason Thread

[Musk21]

4 years, $180M with $100 guaranteed.  Essentially 2 years and $100M.

[nicksaviking]

2 minutes ago, Musk21 said:

4 years, $180M with $100 guaranteed.  Essentially 2 years and $100M.

Good for Kirk, but that wouldn't have interested me. To get to a consistent level of being a contender, this team needs to invest that money to invest in too many other areas.

[Aggies7]

10 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Rue not giving a 4 year deal to an injured 36-year-old? Seems unlikely. I'm sure Atlanta will be much improved, but probably no better off than the Vikings were at their best with him. I'm seriously not trying to rip Cousins as much as the organization, but they won one playoff game in his six years. What is there it rue?

Let’s just hope (insert player name here) is at least as good as Kirk was. So a top 10 guy.  Easy peasy

[gunnarthor]

Vikes sign edge Andrew Van Ginkel, 2/20m. I like this one, actually. Solid player in the Flores scheme.

[nicksaviking]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Let’s just hope (insert player name here) is at least as good as Kirk was. So a top 10 guy. 

If he's not, you just try again until you get it right. This is what I want:

This frustrating organization hasn't had back-to-back 10 win seasons since 2009, which was the last time they were a legit contender, and they haven't been a consistent contender since Fran Tarkenton was here.

 

 

 

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, gunnarthor said:

Vikes sign edge Andrew Van Ginkel, 2/20m. I like this one, actually. Solid player in the Flores scheme.

Two edge rushers? Interesting. As much as I'd like to, we can probably cross that off the early round draft list.

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[Vanimal46]

Kwesi is cooking today!

[nicksaviking]

Wow, didn't expect the Vikings to be this active today. Cashman looks like a younger Hicks replacement. Works for me.

Three front seven defensive players. I was hoping for interior OL, but the defense is making strides already.

[Parfigliano]

Im glad Kirk is gone.  It should have been done before last year for some draft chips.  Take the pain and move on.

[nicksaviking]

I'm now curious about this new defense. Van Ginkel was mostly an interior LB last year as was Cashman. Is Pace out along with Hicks? Otherwise, if he's going to play edge, it seem similar to Greenard. Should be interesting.

[Aggies7]

17 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

Im glad Kirk is gone.  It should have been done before last year for some draft chips.  Take the pain and move on.

We’ll revisit this for when Justin fields has a QBR of 37 by week 12 😉

[nicksaviking]

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

We’ll revisit this for when Justin fields has a QBR of 42 by week 12

I hope he does. What does that matter?

[Aggies7]

3 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I hope he does. What does that matter?

🎶 don’t know what ya got til it’s go-oone 🎶

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

🎶 don’t know what ya got til it’s go-oone 🎶

Sure, but there's next to no chance Fields will be a Viking, so I could care less how terrible he is.

And I DO know what I got. A wildly inconsistent team that will never win a championship if they stick to the current path.

[Aggies7]

2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Sure, but there's next to no chance Fields will be a Viking, so I could care less how terrible he is.

And I DO know what I got. A wildly inconsistent team that will never win a championship if they stick to the current path.

No chance?

[nicksaviking]

5 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Sure, but there's next to no chance Fields will be a Viking, so I could care less how terrible he is.

And I DO know what I got. A wildly inconsistent team that will never win a championship if they stick to the current path.

 

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

No chance?

He's not a good QB, he can only run. I don't see O'Connell thinking he's an answer.

[gunnarthor]

10 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'm now curious about this new defense. Van Ginkel was mostly an interior LB last year as was Cashman. Is Pace out along with Hicks? Otherwise, if he's going to play edge, it seem similar to Greenard. Should be interesting.

I would assume that the generic starting group would be Van Ginkel/Cashman/Pace/Greenard but different schemes (and injury realities) might see different things. I think the important thing is that Van Ginkel seems able to play a few different spots and gives Flores pieces to fit and tinker with. 

But I could be completely wrong. 

That said, I like this first day. Could use some more help on interior d-line and corner but considering what the team did with the low-talent level last year, this looks like an improving defense. Also, and maybe more importantly, it looks like the Vikings at least have a plan for the defense and are implementing it with players that fit. 

[Mike Sixel]

Good start. 

[AlwaysinModeration]

Unlike baseball, I don’t know what to look up to figure out how good any of these guys are.

[Aggies7]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10112583-nfl-rumors-49ers-sam-darnold-linked-to-vikings-after-cousins-falcons-contract
 

Going from Kirko to Sam darnold. That would be can’t miss television.

[Parfigliano]

14 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10112583-nfl-rumors-49ers-sam-darnold-linked-to-vikings-after-cousins-falcons-contract
 

Going from Kirko to Sam darnold. That would be can’t miss television.

Jet washout thrives with Vikes.  Sure why not.

[Mike Sixel]

17 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10112583-nfl-rumors-49ers-sam-darnold-linked-to-vikings-after-cousins-falcons-contract
 

Going from Kirko to Sam darnold. That would be can’t miss television.

placeholder. What do people expect now that Kirk is gone? 

[Vanimal46]

31 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10112583-nfl-rumors-49ers-sam-darnold-linked-to-vikings-after-cousins-falcons-contract
 

Going from Kirko to Sam darnold. That would be can’t miss television.

Yeah, let’s pretend a rookie draft doesn’t happen between this potential signing and opening day. 

[Vanimal46]

7 hours ago, Aggies7 said:

Let’s just hope (insert player name here) is at least as good as Kirk was. So a top 10 guy.  Easy peasy

Where do you rank CJ Stroud today?

[Aggies7]

56 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

placeholder. What do people expect now that Kirk is gone? 

Apparently they expect a rookie QB to come in and replace the production of a top ten QB in a year or two.

Because the only place Darnold could hold is the page in the playbook. His numbers are bad bad. Have a season or two of guys throwing hospital passes to JJ and he’ll be gone before you could dance the griddy. So essentially you’re really drafting a guy would play very soon.

Vikings are in a brutal spot right now. Not high enough in the draft to get the more talented quarterbacks, won’t get higher without trading up (counterintuitive if in a “rebuild”), and the lack of a viable competent “placeholder”

Strap in folks it’s going to get ugly.

[Aggies7]

7 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Yeah, let’s pretend a rookie draft doesn’t happen between this potential signing and opening day. 

It might. 

[Aggies7]

6 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Where do you rank CJ Stroud today?

I don’t know, why?

[Parfigliano]

26 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

placeholder. What do people expect now that Kirk is gone? 

I expect misery with a placeholder for a year or two but Kirk gone had to happen.  

[Parfigliano]

Lions signing Marcus Davenport.

[Aggies7]

4 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

I expect misery with a placeholder for a year or two but Kirk gone had to happen.  

By the time JJ turns 30, our window should be wide open 😂 just kidding