2017 MLB draft thread

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

That's completely besides the point of my post. It doesn't matter what our confidence level is of the organization. We aren't the ones coaching the players.

 

Not only that, but the org is changing.  I know it wasn't immediate, but I can guarantee that there will be other changes over the next few years.  I get Thrylos' point that the org hasn't done HS pitching well (though Berrios and Gonsalves could be exceptions to that soon), but that doesn't mean don't do it. It means figure out what you've done wrong and fix it.

[nytwinsfan]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-mlb-draft-podcast/#cSD29OF76pweieyB.97

 

All three guys on the Baseball America 2017 MLB draft podcast said they'd take Kyle Wright first because of the combination of upside and floor. They all admitted though that Greene has the highest upside. 

 

As for Wright, they said he has a great body, works out in the weight room very hard, has increased his stength dramatically, and in fact attributed part of his slow start this season to getting used to his increased strength that he developed working out over the offseason (not making that up). Apparently he's an animal in the gym.

 

I'm personally more and more convinced by Wright.

[AZTwin]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-mlb-draft-podcast/#cSD29OF76pweieyB.97

 

All three guys on the Baseball America 2017 MLB draft podcast said they'd take Kyle Wright first because of the combination of upside and floor. They all admitted though that Greene has the highest upside.

 

As for Wright, they said he has a great body, works out in the weight room very hard, has increased his stength dramatically, and in fact attributed part of his slow start this season to getting used to his increased strength that he developed working out over the offseason (not making that up). Apparently he's an animal in the gym.

 

I'm personally more and more convinced by Wright.

Certainly a competitor. I understand why Greene didn't want to risk injury but the whole not playing thing sort of turns me off to him a bit.

[gunnarthor]

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-mlb-draft-podcast/#cSD29OF76pweieyB.97

 

All three guys on the Baseball America 2017 MLB draft podcast said they'd take Kyle Wright first because of the combination of upside and floor. They all admitted though that Greene has the highest upside. 

 

As for Wright, they said he has a great body, works out in the weight room very hard, has increased his stength dramatically, and in fact attributed part of his slow start this season to getting used to his increased strength that he developed working out over the offseason (not making that up). Apparently he's an animal in the gym.

 

I'm personally more and more convinced by Wright.

Yep, I'm on the Wright train, too. It's ok if we don't get the best player out of this draft. But a bust would really hurt. Wright's a safe pick who still has tremendous upside. We can pick one of the many high upside HS pitchers at 35/37. Someone will fall.

[FlauerPauer]

The more I read about Gore, the more I think he is the guy to select.  High ceiling, hard throwing lefty, who has absolutely dominated.  Hard to find lefties that throw in the mid 90's.

 

I like Wright as the pick too, though.  I was really high on McKay, but the velocity dip really has me worried.  I wouldn't be able to justify taking a guy #1 overall that barely cracks 90 mph.

[FlauerPauer]

 

Yep, I'm on the Wright train, too. It's ok if we don't get the best player out of this draft. But a bust would really hurt. Wright's a safe pick who still has tremendous upside. We can pick one of the many high upside HS pitchers at 35/37. Someone will fall.

 

 

This a 1000 times.  The Twins most likely will not get the best player from the draft when all said and done; however, you absolutely cannot bust on this pick.  #1 overall needs to at least make the team and be there for a minute.

[biggentleben]

My newest mock with a new name at 35 that I haven't had in any of my mocks so far...

 

https://calltothepen.com/2017/05/25/2017-mlb-mock-draft-version-4-1/

[Bob Sacamento]

 

My newest mock with a new name at 35 that I haven't had in any of my mocks so far...

 

https://calltothepen.com/2017/05/25/2017-mlb-mock-draft-version-4-1/

Nice mock up, if my Cubbies can pull off RHP Nate Pearson and SS/2B Nick Allen at the back end of this draft, I'd be ecstatic!  I saw Allen at the 2016 WWBA, he's 5'7 and small but the skills are all there, give him 3 years at a D1 school and he's a Top 10 pick.  Hell give him 3 inches now and he's a Top 10 pick.  He covered good ground at SS, just took ALOT of steps to get there.

[ashbury]

All three guys on the Baseball America 2017 MLB draft podcast said they'd take Kyle Wright first because of the combination of upside and floor. They all admitted though that Greene has the highest upside.

With all the draft analysis that gets done, and analysts likely reading each other, there's a fine line between cross-checking and crowd-sourcing and group-think.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

The more I read about Gore, the more I think he is the guy to select.  High ceiling, hard throwing lefty, who has absolutely dominated.  Hard to find lefties that throw in the mid 90's.

 

I like Wright as the pick too, though.  I was really high on McKay, but the velocity dip really has me worried.  I wouldn't be able to justify taking a guy #1 overall that barely cracks 90 mph.

 

I haven't seen Gore's name much at all.  Any idea where he's expected to go?  That seems like a bit of a reach at 1 overall, but perhaps he could be convinced to make some high bonus demands to potentially be nabbed with slot savings at 35/37.

[FlauerPauer]

 

I haven't seen Gore's name much at all.  Any idea where he's expected to go?  That seems like a bit of a reach at 1 overall, but perhaps he could be convinced to make some high bonus demands to potentially be nabbed with slot savings at 35/37.

 

I haven't seen his name anywhere outside the top 10.  I've read that he doesn't have the upside that Greene has, but has a better delivery and better overall pitches than Greene (right now).  I can't see any scenario that he drops to 35/37. 

[drjim]

 

With all the draft analysis that gets done, and analysts likely reading each other, there's a fine line between cross-checking and crowd-sourcing and group-think.

 

Fair, but sometimes it all just comes together.

[ashbury]

Fair, but sometimes it all just comes together.

I'm just offering the caution that apparent consensus doesn't mean some new plateau of certainty has been reached.

[biggentleben]

 

Nice mock up, if my Cubbies can pull off RHP Nate Pearson and SS/2B Nick Allen at the back end of this draft, I'd be ecstatic!  I saw Allen at the 2016 WWBA, he's 5'7 and small but the skills are all there, give him 3 years at a D1 school and he's a Top 10 pick.  Hell give him 3 inches now and he's a Top 10 pick.  He covered good ground at SS, just took ALOT of steps to get there.

 

With his speed, though, he gets those extra steps in before most guys ever take the ones needed to get there!

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

I haven't seen his name anywhere outside the top 10.  I've read that he doesn't have the upside that Greene has, but has a better delivery and better overall pitches than Greene (right now).  I can't see any scenario that he drops to 35/37. 

 

I must have missed him then... you're right, if he's top 10, he won't fall that far.... if he was in the 10-25 or so range, you might be able to pull it off.  I'm not sure I want an HS talent though at 1 over all.  We need pitching that's closer to the majors.  I don't mind getting a high ceiling HS type at 35/37, someone should be there, but I'm still pretty firmly in the McKay/Wright camp... leaning towards Wright presently.

[Willihammer]

Minorleagueball profile of Greg Diechmann. The Twins drafted him last year in the 28th round.

 

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/5/19/15663250/meet-lsu-slugger-greg-deichmann

[Willihammer]

 

My newest mock with a new name at 35 that I haven't had in any of my mocks so far...

 

https://calltothepen.com/2017/05/25/2017-mlb-mock-draft-version-4-1/

Is there a way to view that as a full page and not a slide show?

[Mr. Brooks]

I must have missed him then... you're right, if he's top 10, he won't fall that far.... if he was in the 10-25 or so range, you might be able to pull it off. I'm not sure I want an HS talent though at 1 over all. We need pitching that's closer to the majors. I don't mind getting a high ceiling HS type at 35/37, someone should be there, but I'm still pretty firmly in the McKay/Wright camp... leaning towards Wright presently.

I'm a lot more concerned that the Twins get a really good player than how soon he can help the team.

Obviously you'd love to have both, but I'd only like timeline to be a tie breaker.

[nicksaviking]

John Heyman is also saying the Twins are likely to pass on Greene:

 

https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/twins/heyman-twins-expected-pass-hunter-greene/

 

Probably legit, Wright seems like the college arm most GMs would be more comfortable with.

 

Although leaking that you're leaning away from the HS kid is also probably the kind of thing you do when you want to convince him to agree for less than his slot amount.

[biggentleben]

 

Is there a way to view that as a full page and not a slide show?

 

If I controlled that part, it'd happen, trust me.

[InfraRen]

I've been on the Greene train for as long as I could form any kind of opinion, but since it seems that's a no go, I'm ready to take Wright. Solid combo of upside/floor.

 

Don't want McKay.

[InfraRen]

Jim Callis just posted his updated mock. Has Twins taking Wright.

 

That's now Law, all of BA staff and Callis with Wright to the Twins:

 

The most versatile player in the Draft is Louisville first baseman/left-hander Brendan McKay, who could be a top-five selection as either a hitter or a pitcher. While he has generated more 1-1 buzz than any player this spring, he no longer looks like the favorite to head to Minnesota.

That distinction now belongs to Vanderbilt right-hander Kyle Wright, who has a higher ceiling than McKay and a higher floor than Greene. After uncharacteristic command issues led to a slow start, Wright has dominated the last six weeks, compiling a 1.16 ERA while allowing just 17 hits and eight walks against 62 strikeouts in 46 2/3 innings. While the Twins have yet to finalize a decision, other teams choosing at the top of the Draft think he'll be the No. 1 choice.

 

 

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/232496282/jim-callis-mock-projection-2017-mlb-draft/?topicid=151437456

[prouster]

McKay pitched against Notre Dame in the ACC tournament yesterday. He hit a grand slam though had a rather mediocre pitching performance. Per the Fangraphs prospect guru:

 

[twins_89]

It seems like Wright is the guy.I hope he is the rare Twins pitching prospect that moves fast through the minor leagues. It would be great to have Berrios, Wright, Gonsalves, Romero, and Mejia as major league starters for the 2019 season.

[AZTwin]

Unfortunate about McKay. He went from potential 1-1 to potentially falling out of the top 10. I wonder if teams will draft him as a hitter. I wonder how much playing both ways impacted his performance down the stretch

[Bob Sacamento]

 

Unfortunate about McKay. He went from potential 1-1 to potentially falling out of the top 10. I wonder if teams will draft him as a hitter. I wonder how much playing both ways impacted his performance down the stretch

He's not falling out of the top 10, he's a better hitter and/or pitcher than that.  Still though, many are finally seeing the warts on him as a LHP, personally I think he has better potential as a 1B.

[Sweetwater]

I'd gamble on Greene's upside. But I'll live with Wright and root for him to succeed.

[Monkeypaws]

 

I'd gamble on Greene's upside. But I'll live with Wright and root for him to succeed.

 

I guess I'll go along with that.

 

Still, Greene seems like an exceptional young man, both on and off the field. I sure would like to see the Twins invest in such a guy.

 

 

[Sweetwater]

 

I guess I'll go along with that.

 

Still, Greene seems like an exceptional young man, both on and off the field. I sure would like to see the Twins invest in such a guy.

Same here, but it seems like a lost cause right now. If they aren't gonna take him, what can we do? If they end up wrong I'll always hold it against them.

[Willihammer]

Per LEN3, Greene's going to workout in MSP on June 9 along with regional kids:

 

http://www.startribune.com/twins-take-note-of-adalberto-mejia-shaking-off-catcher/424852453/