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This story is upsetting on a lot of levels:

 

-First and foremost, it's embarrassing that the idea of a black santa (a made up character for ****s sake!) would offend people to begin with. 

 

-It's disappointing that the Huff Post is giving visibility to the internet racists who are being...well...racists, on the internet, I feel this sort of press only fuels more racists to come out of the wood work and be even worse. The reality is, this is more than likely a very very very very very vocal minority of people who are fueling this terrible racist rhetoric, I'm not sure giving them more exposure is the smart thing to do TBH.

 

-Lastly, what the **** is wrong with people? Maybe we deserve the nuclear war emperor Trump is going to lead us into....I just hope I come back reincarnated as a dog or something once the nuclear dust clears.

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This story is upsetting on a lot of levels:

 

-First and foremost, it's embarrassing that the idea of a black santa (a made up character for ****s sake!) would offend people to begin with.

 

-It's disappointing that the Huff Post is giving visibility to the internet racists who are being...well...racists, on the internet, I feel this sort of press only fuels more racists to come out of the wood work and be even worse. The reality is, this is more than likely a very very very very very vocal minority of people who are fueling this terrible racist rhetoric, I'm not sure giving them more exposure is the smart thing to do TBH.

 

-Lastly, what the **** is wrong with people? Maybe we deserve the nuclear war emperor Trump is going to lead us into....I just hope I come back reincarnated as a dog or something once the nuclear dust clears.

I don't disagree. But I think it still important to write to the MoA in support, just in case. Let them make it known the outpouring of support to shut down this hateful rhetoric. It's a quiet way to stand up for what's right.

 

Meanwhile, swastika stickers are showing up in Chicago. My neighborhood got stickered up and now I heard reports that they appeared overnight all over the U of C campus.

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I don't disagree. But I think it still important to write to the MoA in support, just in case. Let them make it known the outpouring of support to shut down this hateful rhetoric. It's a quiet way to stand up for what's right.

Meanwhile, swastika stickers are showing up in Chicago. My neighborhood got stickered up and now I heard reports that they appeared overnight all over the U of C campus.

I mean letters are nice and something is better than nothing, but MOA aren't the victims here, the MOA owners are billionaires who make their money through the leases the stores pay them.

But if people in the Twins Cities (which I know a lot of us aren't) want to show support, they should goto the MOA and get their pic/kids pics with Santa at the mall, I'm pretty sure those pictures proceeds goto good causes like 99.9% of the time. I don't have kids yet so it's hard to tell people how to raise their kids, but I think this would be a great time to show them that inclusion is a very very good thing, take them to the mall and talk to them about how a "black Santa" is the exact same as a "white Santa" or something. Also if you want to help and support the mall, go shop at some of the independent stores/retailers at the mall. 

Yeah the swastikas and such have been showing up here as well, though pretty limited when you are talking about huge ass cities like Chicago and NYC, only takes a couple (literally a couple) bad apples to ruin the basket of millions of decent people living here.

The encouraging thing I have seen is outpouring of love and rallies when these incidents happen, in Brooklyn Adam Yauch(MCA from the Beastie Boys) Park had swastikas carved into it, the community response was not one of anger or protest, but a rally of love and support.

This was a nice story that came out of it no doubt:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/19/502710608/swastikas-are-painted-at-adam-yauch-park-in-nyc-but-kids-win-the-day
 

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I see no harm in encouraging friends with kids in the Mpls vicinity taking their kids to MoA to see Santa. That would be a great way to stand up to this. But I don't have kids nor do I live there. Finding a way to encourage the owners to stay the course I think is still important. Yes, the owners are billionaires, and as such, money talks. And while I hope the people opposing Santa Larry is a very small minority and it gets no traction, I don't think taking that for granted is good, either. There is talk they will try to form a boycott, and while I hope it fails, I think it important to show the MoA more people are in support of them than opposed to them. Sheesh, it takes no time at all to write a comment in support of them.

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Anonymous trolls are going crazy on the internet?! You don't say.... 

Honestly, this should be a story we read, think "Well that's nice" and move on... 
 

Craig Arko Minnesota Twins

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Nikolaos of Myra (aka Saint Nicholas) was from 3rd century Turkey, just prior to the rule of Constantine. Probably not your average white guy.

Vanimal46 Cooperstown

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Nikolaos of Myra (aka Saint Nicholas) was from 3rd century Turkey, just prior to the rule of Constantine. Probably not your average white guy.

Don't let the trolls know that.... It will blow their mind. Wasn't it Coca-Cola's doing that Santa wore a red suit too? So it could match their logo? 

Craig Arko Minnesota Twins

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Don't let the trolls know that.... It will blow their mind. Wasn't it Coca-Cola's doing that Santa wore a red suit too? So it could match their logo?

 

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I think continuing to remind my friends that deny racism is real....that racism is real is a good thing.

 

Don't they then just say that Santa having to be white isn't racism for some asinine and completely un-followable reason then call you a PC idiot?

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I can almost guarantee you that no average white kid would even care.  But I can't imagine what black kids must feel when they never even see the character represent them.  

 

I wouldn't like this if it was a publicity stunt but I don't get that vibe.  This was just a good person trying to bring some happiness to kids and we adults managed to *@$% it up again.

jimmer Wichita Wind Surge

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When I was in Panama, I played Santa at an elementary school.  I was the first white Santa they had ever seen. They were so enthralled.

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