Eight sweeps. Ten Wins.

[Kwak]

 

Serious question here.  They have to have one all star rep.  Who would it be? 

Duffey if he continues to pitch well and KC's manager prefers a pitcher over a 1B/DH Park who is the leading candidate right now.  Mauer is the dark horse.  He is ​the name player​.​

[Mike Sixel]

All star.....uh, hmmm....well.....ya.

 

I got no idea. Park if he wasn't a DH.....no LF, CF, RF, 3B, SS, 2B, 1B, C or RP has a chance right now......that leaves Park and a SP.....yikes.

[LaBombo]

Posted this in the game thread,  recycling is supposed to be good for the environment:

 

Twins have been swept in 8 three-game series,  with the asterisk added that in one sweep by Baltimore (23-14)  a game was rained out.   But even if you credit the Twins with only 7 times being swept...

 

The most-swept MLB team in 2015,  the Phillies,  got swept in three game series 10 times.

 

Ten times.   All year.    The Twins could tie that in May with one series to spare.

 

 

 

 

[Pardon My Dinger]

Prologue: I have had one drink.

 

That said, I am in the Doug M camp when it comes to the manager job. But right now, I say float the idea to Torii about becoming interim manager. Loosen things up, and simultaneously teach kids about on the field accountability.

[Pardon My Dinger]

Prologue: I have had one drink.

 

That said, I am in the Doug M camp when it comes to the manager job. But right now, I say float the idea to Torii about becoming interim manager. Loosen things up, and simultaneously teach kids about on the field accountability.

ONE DRINK, I swear!

[USAFChief]

I honestly think they're at the point where Molitor has to be fired. Tonight. It's that bad.

 

It's certainly not all his fault, but what else is to be done? They have to do SOMEthing. They've already been through roster churn.

[LaBombo]

 

yikes

 

The password for your 2016 Twins season must be least 6 characters long and contain at least one capital letter and one number.   Please choose again.

[Mr. Brooks]

I would accept Dougie finishing the year with an interim tag, but ultimately I want any and all new hires to come from outside the organization, that is how sour I am on the whole thing.

[drivlikejehu]

 

I honestly think they're at the point where Molitor has to be fired. Tonight. It's that bad.

It's certainly not all his fault, but what else is to be done? They have to do SOMEthing. They've already been through roster churn.

 

I've never been a big fan of firing Molitor for the front office's incompetence, but it is getting to the point where they really don't have much choice. The baseball season is just too long for things to fester without change.

 

I actually think an early firing is something that could happen, as a way of trying to take pressure off of the front office. If a new manager came in and the rate of losing slowed, that is.

 

Not that people would buy that story, but the Twins are so out of touch that anything is possible . . . 

[Platoon]

My wife tells me all the time: if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything.... Which is why I've tried not to post for the past 5 seasons.

You listen to your wife? Don't let this get out of TD, it would be catostrophic!

[Platoon]

Prologue: I have had one drink.

That said, I am in the Doug M camp when it comes to the manager job. But right now, I say float the idea to Torii about becoming interim manager. Loosen things up, and simultaneously teach kids about on the field accountability.

NO to the nth degree squared X's 9 (now I wish I had taken algebra)

[jimmer]

 

NO to the nth degree squared X's 9 (now I wish I had taken algebra)

thank you.

[DaveW]

I would accept Dougie finishing the year with an interim tag, but ultimately I want any and all new hires to come from outside the organization, that is how sour I am on the whole thing.

Let dougie finish the year. If he can get them playing at a 88 win pace, then think about keeping him. Ryan should be told that this is his last season no matter what. Antony as well. If th twins manage to lose 100+ everyone is gone, Radcliffe, krivinsky, Goin, Dave St. Peter and the rest.

[DaveW]

Hunter may make a decent front office guy some day (may) but I absolutely have no desire to him to manage this team.

 

Doug, Mauer or even Gardy would be fine choices IMO for interim. Neil Allen needs to go as well.

[jimmer]

 

Hunter may make a decent front office guy some day (may) but I absolutely have no desire to him to manage this team.

Doug, Mauer or even Gardy would be fine choices IMO for interim. Neil Allen needs to go as well.

He'd be a quality GM in the same way Dave Stewart is.  Both old school minds trying to succeed using the wrong barometers for measuring/reviewing talent. I'd like for him to be the White Sox GM or manager though.

 

Maybe something in PR, or radio.  Or heck, even David St Peter's job.  

[Monkeypaws]

The Twins suck so bad they deserve 1 and 2 overall.

 

OTOH, the last time the Twins and Braves blew this hard,something wonderful happened. Really great!

[Platoon]

You can argue the level of "mismanagement" which Molitor has bestowed on Meyer, Polanco, Kepler, Berrios, and today Rosario to almost any degree. What you cannot argue is that all of them have one thing in common. At the same time, veterans are immune from any repercussions. Doziers defense has been lacksidasical all year, capped off by the lousy attempt to catch a pop up. Suzuki, whose only forte was blocking low pitches, fanned on a short hop, just one of many lately. Plouffe has bunted? Cutoff men are either ignored, or missed completely. My point is the lack of effort and execution is team wide. But a veteran is never the focus of corrective action. And that is the fastest way to lose a clubhouse, differentiating the way you handle issues like this. You should try and handle each player as an individual, but you better treat them all the same. And I don't buy into the fact that veterans earn that deference. They maybe earned a pass for a bad day, not a bad year!

[Ncgo4]

This is a team that through a little over 20% of the season is bad by any historical measure. There's no one in the wings to make a significant improvement. Management hasn't a clue what to do. Bad decisions with prior contracts have handcuffed any ability to make housecleaning decisions. And, finally, I hope they don't improve enough to give team management a new lease on life.

 

This basically just sucks.

[Mr. Brooks]

Amidst all that, perhaps the most damning indictment against management of all is how shocked and stunned they are by this.

 

People on here who defend the Twins say that we have to realize that they know and see a lot more than we do.

Well, that knife has to cut both ways. How could they know these players so well and not see even a chance of this happening? That tells me that their ability to judge talent is indefensibly bad.

[Minniman]

 

Serious question here.  They have to have one all star rep.  Who would it be? 

 

Juan Centeno

[Danchat]

 

The password for your 2016 Twins season must be least 6 characters long and contain at least one capital letter and one number.   Please choose again.

Ummm, let me try again...

 

Password: #TotalSystemFailure777

[Vanimal46]

Ummm, let me try again...

 

Password: #TotalSystemFailure777

Great... Thanks Danchat. Now I have to go change ALL of my passwords.....

[Kwak]

I considered firing Molitor to see if that would provide some (any) kind of a spark to motivate the players--then I thought "What if the next manager stinks just as bad?"--does he also get the axe after 2 months?

[Vanimal46]

I considered firing Molitor to see if that would provide some (any) kind of a spark to motivate the players--then I thought "What if the next manager stinks just as bad?"--does he also get the axe after 2 months?

It would be just like what the Minnesota Wild did. Dougie Baseball or Glynn comes in on an interim basis. If they don't turn it around, nothing's lost. They can sign someone else in the off-season.

[Otto von Ballpark]

It would be just like what the Minnesota Wild did. Dougie Baseball or Glynn comes in on an interim basis. If they don't turn it around, nothing's lost. They can sign someone else in the off-season.

I'd say there would be the risk of a bad performance being seen as enough of a turnaround to convince them not to pursue other options in the off season (even bad might look good compared to this atrocious start). I guess that is a risk of keeping Molitor too.

[Mr. Brooks]

I would fire Mollie not because I think I can salvage anything, but because I think he's the wrong guy to manage the kids and I don't want his influence in the clubhouse another day.

Then I'd hand it to Dougie on an interim basis, knowing in my head that it would take an amazing performance to consider keeping him beyond the season.

I'd do that because all of these young guys know and respect Dougie, some probably even almost as a father figure.

 

Then in off season I'd hire the best possible candidate with no ties whatsoever to the current organization, with my criteria being solely who is the best to build up a bunch of young players through a few losing seasons.

[jimmer]

 

Amidst all that, perhaps the most damning indictment against management of all is how shocked and stunned they are by this.

People on here who defend the Twins say that we have to realize that they know and see a lot more than we do.
Well, that knife has to cut both ways. How could they know these players so well and not see even a chance of this happening? That tells me that their ability to judge talent is indefensibly bad.

Yeah, like when Jim Pohlad said he thought it was logical to believe that since they won 83 games last year they'd win even more this year.  As if it works that way.

[Vanimal46]

I'd say there would be the risk of a bad performance being seen as enough of a turnaround to convince them not to pursue other options in the off season (even bad might look good compared to this atrocious start). I guess that is a risk of keeping Molitor too.

I think there will always be those risks as long as the Pohlad's own the team. They don't have any examples in their past hiring people without ties to the organization. We can only hope there's a breaking point with Jim and he seeks help from the outside.

[DaveW]

He'd be a quality GM in the same way Dave Stewart is. Both old school minds trying to succeed using the wrong barometers for measuring/reviewing talent. I'd like for him to be the White Sox GM or manager though.

 

Maybe something in PR, or radio. Or heck, even David St Peter's job.

i was trying to give Hunter the benefit of the doubt

[David HK]

 

Twins just can't get any luck from the baseball gods this year.  Must have used it all up last year.  When the starter pitches well the bullpen loses the game.  When the start pitches bad the offense shows up but we come up short.  When the pitching goes well top to bottom we get no offense.  Always seem to come up just short this season at least so far.  Just need everyone to put it together to pull some of these games out.

That is the hallmark of a bad team.  Always one (or more) components that fail, and every day it's another one.  Or sometimes, all of them.