Article: Game Thread: Twins v Tigers, 4/29 @ 7:10pm CT

[Riverbrian]

He was doing better when he wasn't throwing strikes. 

[Riverbrian]

MOLLY

 

Sit ABAD DOWN

 

LET MEYER FINISH

 

WHATEVER HAPPENS

 

NOBODY NEEDS TO THROW IN THE PEN

 

MY GOD

[Riverbrian]

Have the conversation you want to have with TR after the Game. 

 

Let the KID Finish the inning. 

 

It doesn't matter. 

[Jham]

Meyer now starting to understand why the pitching coaches were telling him to develop a third pitch...

[Blake]

I don't like the fact that Meyer is struggling but I'm really doubting Molitors ability to manage players.

 

If Meyer is a reliever, he needs to be used like a reliever. If he's a starter, he needs to be used like a starter.

 

9 days without throwing in a game? Molitor looking for an excuse to ship Meyer back to AAA?

[Riverbrian]

 

Molitor looking for an excuse to ship Meyer back to AAA?

 

I have no idea... but If I had to make a bet... I'd say yes. 

[USAFChief]

 

I don't like the fact that Meyer is struggling but I'm really doubting Molitors ability to manage players.

 

If Meyer is a reliever, he needs to be used like a reliever. If he's a starter, he needs to be used like a starter.

 

9 days without throwing in a game? Molitor looking for an excuse to ship Meyer back to AAA?

Does Alex Meyer bear NO responsibility for his resutls?

 

He did the same last year.

 

 

 

 

[Blake]

 

I have no idea... but If I had to make a bet... I'd say yes. 

In what sane world do you bring in a kid who has shown flashes of briliance, yet struggles at times, and have him face one of the fiercest lineups in MLB?

[Riverbrian]

 

Meyer now starting to understand why the pitching coaches were telling him to develop a third pitch...

 

And... Stride should be body length... release point over the top of the shoe. And Repeat... and repeat. 

[Jham]

I'm cool with that outing.  Showed some jitters for sure.  Should help settle him down for Tuesday.  Hopefully we'll see a more representative appearance Tuesday.

[Aggies7]

Our roster seems to have been taken over by shiftless zombies. Shiftless zombies who aren't very good at baseball.

[LaBombo]

 

I think you are right and he couldn't find the strike zone. 

 

Suggested gear for start vs.  Astros:

 

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Not pictured:    third hand.

[Mr. Brooks]

Does Alex Meyer bear NO responsibility for his resutls?

 

He did the same last year.

I don't think anyone is saying he deserves no blame for how he pitches.

But a managers/coaches job is to put players on the best position to succeed.

Do you feel they've done that with Meyer over the last 10 days?

[Mike Sixel]

There is almost nothing I like about this manager and how he handles players

[Blake]

 

Does Alex Meyer bear NO responsibility for his resutls?

 

He did the same last year.

But did he go 9 days between starts? How was he doing at AAA before being called up?

 

No, this is not a good outing, but I cannot help but think Molitor put Meyer in a position where he was almost guaranteed to fail.

[formerly33]

Poor Hrb. The Twins have caused him so much stress lately. When he saw that last play he just sat their and cackled hysterically like a decapitated chicken.

[Riverbrian]

 

Does Alex Meyer bear NO responsibility for his resutls?

 

He did the same last year.

 

I would have handled it different but you are correct. 

 

It also shows that Molly was probably right to trust his judgement and not throw Meyer on Monday after he was called up. 

 

Meyer was brutal... and it's fault but he didn't have much support. 

 

Tonight... I would have left him in to work some kinks out if he could. 

 

You might as well send him straight down to AAA now. Forget the Tuesday start... Molitor is going to grit his teeth if he's forced to start him on Tuesday. 

[Bark's Lounge]

 

If by picture, you mean "cave drawing," then maybe.

It was tough. I am glad I have some archeologist friends.

[Blake]

 

I don't think anyone is saying he deserves no blame for how he pitches.
But a managers/coaches job is to put players on the best position to succeed.
Do you feel they've done that with Meyer over the last 10 days?

Said it much better than I did.

[jimbo92107]

Meyer was throwing his fastball same speed, no movement. Maybe Meyer is a candidate for a Walter Johnson conversion... Stride halfway between home and 3rd, pivot and sling the ball straight sidearm. With Meyer's long limbs, the ball would be coming from such a scary angle... Personally I think it's easier to control the height of a sidearm throw. You just slide your arm along a table top, roll your forearm. Like skipping stones for distance. 

[formerly33]

Okay ... I got bored and started filling in a form for a band name generator. I was supposed to put in random words and names, etc. One of the words I used was "stoning." I didn't mention the Twins at all (are they worth mentioning?), but it turns out this website collected cookies. I'm supposed to call my band "Stoning Twins."

Sounds like a right good idea at that.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Question. Keep Molitor, or keep Ryan. You have to choose one.

 

I especially want Chief to take a shot at this

[Riverbrian]

 

In what sane world do you bring in a kid who has shown flashes of briliance, yet struggles at times, and have him face one of the fiercest lineups in MLB?

 

The same world that gives Kepler is only start against a left hander. 

 

I'll bet a large sum of money that Molitor wasn't very interested in the news that Ryan Called him up. 

 

But also keep in mind... Molitor isn't stupid... He's probably getting session reports from Neil Allen as well. 

 

Meyer wasn't supported... that is for sure but... he's got some info. 

 

If Neil comes back and says... Meyer is spot on... Mechanics look great... the ball is popping. 2nd Pitches have command. 

 

Molly would listen. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Who all saw "the catch"?

 

That Sano is athletic!

[Riverbrian]

 

Meyer was throwing his fastball same speed, no movement. Maybe Meyer is a candidate for a Walter Johnson conversion... Stride halfway between home and 3rd, pivot and sling the ball straight sidearm. With Meyer's long limbs, the ball would be coming from such a scary angle... Personally I think it's easier to control the height of a sidearm throw. You just slide your arm along a table top, roll your forearm. Like skipping stones for distance. 

 

I'd never teach that.

 

6 8 guys have such awesome reach. When they stride and extend. Makes 98 look like 103. 

 

He's just got to get those mechanics down. If he hasn't yet... It's on Meyer. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

It's not one of my finest pieces of art, but it will do.

 

Chief Baby.jpg

They grow up fast.

[Mike Sixel]

The nerves displayed by Meyer and Berrios are why you call guys up before you need them. Especially I a lost season. Meyer should have been up two years ago.

[LaBombo]

 

There is almost nothing I like about this manager and how he handles players

 

So far my three favorite things about his managing are tripling for his 3000th hit,   his covert plan to abuse the bunt so badly that MLB bans it forever,   and his not being Gardenhire.

 

Now that the novelty of watching someone besides Gardenhire    #*@%    things up is wearing off,   there's not a lot to hang your hat on. 

Edited April 30, 2016 by LaBombo

[USAFChief]

 

But did he go 9 days between starts? How was he doing at AAA before being called up?

 

No, this is not a good outing, but I cannot help but think Molitor put Meyer in a position where he was almost guaranteed to fail.

What would you suggest he have done?  Bring him into a winnable 1 run game, so he could put up that performance and actually cost the team a game?

 

If anything, he put him into a situation where he should have felt as little pressure as possible.  The game was pretty much over.  He STILL crumbled like a 2 week old cracker.

[Platoon]

I would have handled it different but you are correct. 

 

It also shows that Molly was probably right to trust his judgement and not throw Meyer on Monday after he was called up. 

 

Meyer was brutal... and it's fault but he didn't have much support. 

 

Tonight... I would have left him in to work some kinks out if he could. 

 

You might as well send him straight down to AAA now. Forget the Tuesday start... Molitor is going to grit his teeth if he's forced to start him on Tuesday.

 

He needs to start Tues, and in 5 days after that. It's time to see if he can or can't.